MERC a200 vs golf 7 tsi

[Bionic]

The biggest misconception here is that a VW has good resale value. That is complete and utter crap.

You talk crap dude. I owned 3 GTI's and all retained value.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Ok so its normal... Nothing to worry about. ..

Anything to look out for on a used dsg? Interested in one with 41000km on it. ... Is this considered high?

If it's not making funny noises you can't really predict anything.

I bought one with 98000km on which most would consider high.

150000km now and styling.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Very valid point Sau.

What however ultimately swayed our vote against the A class (over and above the choppy ride) was the infotainment display that look like someone slapped an iPad to the centre of the dashboard as an afterthought - the perceived build and interior quality wasn't that great. Nonetheless a superb car whilst I also very nearly bought an A3 1.8T instead of my GTI - also a very underrated vehicle in my personal opinion

I think the GTI is a little unfair of a comparison to the base line A-class.

Then again I have no clue what the prices are like, so they might compare well there.

GTI also is a model in and of itself and shouldn't really be considered a comparison with the other Golfs.

 

[aomar296]

Hi Sauron

Which vw dsg do you have?

Has it given you Any trouble at all since you bought it? Did you take an extended warranty?

 

[SauRoNZA]

Hi Sauron

Which vw dsg do you have?

Has it given you Any trouble at all since you bought it? Did you take an extended warranty?

2008 Golf 5 GTI 6-speed DSG.





Got a one year free one with the car but never used it.





Nothing out of the ordinary and maintenance hasn't even cost a 1/3rd of my quote on a service plan in more than double the time the plan would have lasted.

Just over 50000km since December 2011.

Car's aircon died two weeks after I bought it, only real drama and a known fault.

 

[Galactica]

For those of you with/had GTIs how did you deal with the crime issue or would you say the high risk perception is a myth?

 

[Rouxenator]

You talk crap dude. I owned 3 GTI's and all retained value.

How long did you keep them for?

 

[T3ro]

If you kept it for a proper period of time, say 15 years, you would not have that difference. What does that mean? I means that VW is no better than any other car in the long run.

Roux but in 15 years a car has reached a Corsa B or Citi Golf level ie. No more depreciation, so obviously they will then fetch the same price when sold? Only difference is cars other than the big brands in SA, will reach that level faster

 

[Rouxenator]

Exactly my point. If you keep a car for it's usable lifespan then they all end up at the same level. Therefore resale value is a pseudo-useless except for the sucka fools that fall for planned obsolescence.

 

[T3ro]

Yip true, if a person plans on keeping the car for that length of time, resale value is irrelevant.

 

[Rouxenator]

Cars are designed and built to last that long. If you take into account the sheer amount of energy it takes to build a car, and therefore the CO2 footprint of production, then it makes sense to hold onto them for at least a decade. If you have a good car you will experience little issues in that time.

 

[Brenden_E]

Cars are designed and built to last that long. If you take into account the sheer amount of energy it takes to build a car, and therefore the CO2 footprint of production, then it makes sense to hold onto them for at least a decade. If you have a good car you will experience little issues in that time.

For many what is required of the car change in a few years. Bigger family, need something more economical, etc. But ideally, if you can you should hold onto it for as long as you can.

 

[Splinter]

"If". If only. The elaborate justification here compels me to pull out the world's smallest violin and compose a song.

If you think that was elaborate, you would most probably find the brand name on a cereal box to be code....

 

[Brenden_E]

If you think that was elaborate, you would most probably find the brand name on a cereal box to be code....

That you feel a need to explain that you *could* have, *would* have gotten so much if not for the evil dealer is way more than what we needed to know. You didn't get a higher payout, cause the resale value of opel is crap. Short and sweet.

 

[Splinter]

That you feel a need to explain that you *could* have, *would* have gotten so much if not for the evil dealer is way more than what we needed to know. You didn't get a higher payout, cause the resale value of opel is crap. Short and sweet.

Hopefully it is bias, rather than your ability to comprehend simple things, that prevents you from seeing that I said the car was sold for R160 000 a week later. Thus that is the market value for this particular car at the point in time, and a private sale would have reflected something a bit under this. It is no secret that most dealers (of any brand) are screwing the seller over, based on what they offer as trade-in versus what they sell it for.

Was this simple enough for you, or do I need to draw pictures as well?

 

[Brenden_E]

Hopefully it is bias, rather than your ability to comprehend simple things, that prevents you from seeing that I said the car was sold for R160 000 a week later. Thus that is the market value for this particular car at the point in time, and a private sale would have reflected something a bit under this. It is no secret that most dealers (of any brand) are screwing the seller over, based on what they offer as trade-in versus what they sell it for.

Was this simple enough for you, or do I need to draw pictures as well?

Well either you are hella stupid, as you could have sold it privately and made R60K extra, or it didn't sell for R60K more the next week. How did you know how much it sold for anyway? Your story is like a swiss cheese.

 

[Colin62]

Your story is like a swiss cheese.

Pungent? Or full of holes?

 

[Rouxenator]

Holes, like a rusted Golf.

 

[Splinter]

Well, lets put it this way. I bought my OPC+ new in Oct 2006 for R278 000 all in. I sold it to N1 City dealership in Oct last year for R100 000 on the dot. I knew they were raping me, but I didn't know how much until I found out that they sold it a week or two later for R159 000. Still, after 8 years I got 36% back. If I sold it privately for say R150k it would be 54% after 8 years.

Basically all dealers will do this once a car is out of motorplan/service plan. CPA they claim.

Well either you are hella stupid, as you could have sold it privately and made R60K extra, or it didn't sell for R60K more the next week. How did you know how much it sold for anyway? Your story is like a swiss cheese.

So I'm stupid or a liar? I would take offence, but then that would mean I actually value your opinion....

Anyway, not sure how my story is full of holes seeing as it is consistent with what I said previously (although it does seem you struggle with things like reading properly). And some of us don't want the hassle of selling privately, and as indicated in my first post, I hadn't realised by just how much they would gouge me. The car needed about R10k work and I had estimated they would sell it for R140k; guess I was a bit off.

And I drive past them most days depending on traffic and which route i am taking to work - so dropping off the service book later to discover the car had already been sold wasnt much of an issue....

Make sense, oh great one of discerning the truth?

 

[Brenden_E]

So it appears you are not the most concave spoon the drawer then. Impressive to do something so unbelievably stupid I thought you were lying.