Microsoft satisfaction rating nears historical low

*cough* Windows Vista *cough*

Vista was very bad, but for some reason Google Chrome 1 on Vista Business was one of the fastest & best web browsing experiences I've ever had.

Was playing Facebook games those years and would have 50 tabs (yup, 50) open at a time - no sweat.

We were a group of about 50 gamers from all over the world and all agreed that Chrome on Vista ruled anything else. :)
 
Microsoft OSes are a Slip One, Knit One affair it seems :

Windows 1, Windows 2, Windows 3, Windows 95, Windows 95 OSR2, Windows 98, Windows 98SE, Windows ME, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8... the next one will be good.
 
Microsoft OSes are a Slip One, Knit One affair it seems :

Windows 1, Windows 2, Windows 3, Windows 95, Windows 95 OSR2, Windows 98, Windows 98SE, Windows ME, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8... the next one will be good.

Windows 2000 was pretty solid for its time though...
 
What a load of crap.

I'm not making this up - see Sinofsky's post on the subject, showing their thinking behind the changes
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/10/03/evolving-the-start-menu.aspx

Figure 4 reveals that 85% of people have three or more items pinned to the taskbar compared to a mere 23% who have the same number pinned to the Start menu. Although the taskbar and Start menu have different pinned defaults, many people do customize both of them when they want to. The message is clear that the majority of people want most of their apps on the taskbar rather than having to dig into Start.

MS didn't randomly change stuff - they did tons of research and saw how people used Windows.
 
What turd? Does the search in the charm not work EXACTLY like Search Programs and Files? I'm explaining that the alternative exists, problem is either lack of knowledge in its existence or just total resistance to a new UI! Everything you are used to in Windows 7 exists in Windows 8, just a different UI, I know this because I sometimes use both at the same exact time. :whistle:

For a person still pinning Nero on the Start Menu in 2013, I'd stay far away from the "people like you" comments:D

The win8 search charm removes one's view of the desktop, unlike the menu search on win7. I find it particularly annoying to suddenly change context for no rhyme or reason.

If 8.1 offers the same solution as does Start8 it will solve that problem.
 
And now it's just been announced that there's a Start menu in the latest build of Windows 8.1 (Windows Blue). :D

Now all the previous posts about "moving away from the Start menu", "I have not used the Start menu since day XXXX", just seem hilarious to read again. ;)
 
And now it's just been announced that there's a Start menu in the latest build of Windows 8.1 (Windows Blue). :D

Now all the previous posts about "moving away from the Start menu", "I have not used the Start menu since day XXXX", just seem hilarious to read again. ;)

Source?

Latest info I have, the start button is there yes, but it still opens the Start Screen aka ModernUI menu. Also it boots to desktop is off by default but this can be changed.

http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/blue-start-experience-changes

blue-desktop.jpg
^Button is back,

blue-start.jpg
but still opens a screen
 
I'm not making this up - see Sinofsky's post on the subject, showing their thinking behind the changes
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/10/03/evolving-the-start-menu.aspx



MS didn't randomly change stuff - they did tons of research and saw how people used Windows.

The problem is that they removed the desktop and replaced it with tiles and full screen apps that cover your whole monitor.

The actual start button bothered me a lot less than suddenly having simple apps occupy an entire 23" screen

And, the biggest sin of all, they removed solitaire thus causing my wife's parents to have a fit about how I broke their computer.
 
And, the biggest sin of all, they removed solitaire thus causing my wife's parents to have a fit about how I broke their computer.

ROFL!!

I can imagine you were not very popular with her parents. Ouch.

Windows 8 must have been one of the biggest disappointments from Microsoft ever.

Hell, I even liked Windows ME more, and that was utter crap!
 
Third party re-skinning applications should flourish with Windows 8. A large % of users wants a look and feel more in line with Windows 7 so that creates a market for the likes of Stardock. WindowsBlinds (http://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/) should make a strong comeback as a favourite application (this always saves the day when MS gets it wrong).
 
The window that opens when you click on the start button, looks like some kind of menu to me, wouldn't you say?

Nope - that's just the same background on metro launcher and desktop.

You really should read stuff before you post links to it :)
 
Third party re-skinning applications should flourish with Windows 8. A large % of users wants a look and feel more in line with Windows 7 so that creates a market for the likes of Stardock. WindowsBlinds (http://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/) should make a strong comeback as a favourite application (this always saves the day when MS gets it wrong).

Yup - I remember when Win95 came out, there was a similar industry that popped up around providing Win3.x launchers for that - people couldn't handle that their apps were now in the start menu or on the desktop, uncategorized. And like that, people will get over it too - old habits die hard.
 
Now all the previous posts about "moving away from the Start menu", "I have not used the Start menu since day XXXX", just seem hilarious to read again. ;)

If they did bring it back, I still wouldn't use it - I haven't since forever. Vista might have had a rocky start, but it did bring a lot of good UI innovation.
 
:confused:
You really are starting to confuse yourself now!
Just stop, ok?

No, you're confused. I'll explain. There is a start button, but when you press it, it will take you to the metro fullscreen launcher. This has been known for a few weeks. Another thing that article is demonstrating, is that you can now have backgrounds on the metro launcher, it's under a different heading. Really badly illustrated by the same background - I was also confused for a second when I saw it.

The second screenshot with the metro launcher on the same background is under a different heading, and you'll notice that you can't see the desktop below it - the recycle bin icon is gone, as is the taskbar. Paul confirms in the comments it's not a start menu.
 
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