More UFO files published

*SIGH* People are in denial. There are thousands of images, videos and eye-witness accounts, including former astronauts who have all said that intelligent alien beings exist. You people should stop living in denial.

*sigh*
The thousands of images, videos and eye-witness accounts are far from reliable.
Of all the 1000's of images and videos, 89.999% percent is out of focus.
The rest is misinterpreted from natural and man made phenomena.

I do not for one second believe earth is the only little mud ball that hosts life, sentient or single cell. They might even be singlecell sentients for all I know.
Unfortunately the evidence is hardly conclusive and the UFO society is doing itself more harm than good by releasing poor quality photos and deformed human skeletons.

Quoting archeological pictographs as proof of historic alien visitations are far from conclusive.

You would think that after all these countless historical visitations that there would have been more concrete physical evidence artifacts, alien remains. Unfortunately all that exsist are pictographs and rock drawings and a few clay figures that depic what we percieve as historic alien visitors.

Wayne:
We dont know why the Ancient Egyptians practiced head binding.
We can only imply some kind of signficance to it, whether spiritual or merely cosmetic.

During the middle ages, women bound their waists for cosmetic reasons, certain asian cultures bind their daughter's feet for a smaller sizw, tattoos in africa, piercings all over the world.

Their is no reason for us to say that Alien visitors from the past had cone shaped heads so therefor Ancient Civilizations bound their heads to mimic the look.

This is just my R1.50.
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How can you say that looking at old historic drawings are inconclusive? History is what we rely on to live the way we currently do. History is what we reference to see how things were in the past and it plays a crucial role in our development.
There are too many officials within the US government who have come forward and said that aliens exist. Sadly, people will always refute any "evidence" because they don't want to believe it.
 
No rational person would refute evidence because they do not want to believe it. To do so is to be irrational. Most rational people would love to be proven wrong and have fairies and life after death and Martians proved truthful. This would provide greater meaning and wonder to their lives and the world in general, but sadly these people are rational and as such do not have the luxury to believe because they want things to be true.
 
No rational person would refute evidence because they do not want to believe it. To do so is to be irrational. Most rational people would love to be proven wrong

Haha. I wish that were true. People have egos. They hate to be proved wrong.
 
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How can you say that looking at old historic drawings are inconclusive? History is what we rely on to live the way we currently do. History is what we reference to see how things were in the past and it plays a crucial role in our development.
There are too many officials within the US government who have come forward and said that aliens exist. Sadly, people will always refute any "evidence" because they don't want to believe it.


The problem with historic drawings, merc, is that they are subjective.

Take this one - circa 10 000 BC

http://www.consciousape.com/assets/734/ancient_astronauts_large_thumbnail.jpg

You see this as proof of Alien Visitors.

I see a depiction of 2 tribesmen, that have been painted white to take on the characteristics of their ancestral spirits

It is subjective.

To QA:
Sadly, people will always see any "evidence" because they want to believe it.
 
The problem with historic drawings, merc, is that they are subjective.

Take this one - circa 10 000 BC

http://www.consciousape.com/assets/734/ancient_astronauts_large_thumbnail.jpg

You see this as proof of Alien Visitors.

I see a depiction of 2 tribesmen, that have been painted white to take on the characteristics of their ancestral spirits

That's a poor piece of evidence of "aliens". It does look like tribemen. I posted a few links in another thread. Take a look at that and see the other, far more convincing pics.
 
Yup as i said merc you could have an hd video of an alien and people would say its rubbish.

Most of us recognise that film and media footage of any kind can be easily manipulated, thats why we choose to take anything we see on DVD and television with a large pinch of salt. There's an old saying; "Seeing is believing" and in the best interests of being realistic, its good to keep that in mind at all times when watching television, else you're in danger of the fine line between reality and fantasy becoming slightly blurred!

For example, anybody remember that youtube video posted here on MYBB a few days ago of that dude who flew like 100 metres through the air and landed in a tiny swimmingpool?

That was put together by a bunch of uni students and although its easy to see that it was manipulated, its not so easy to see how they did it. Its good to keep that in mind when watching any footage of aliens etc
 

http://www.ufosightingreport.com/strange-device-over-lake-tahoe-extraterrestrial

Some of the comments post the kind of questions you have to ask in order to prove the sighting:

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skeptic on Tue, 05/22/2007 - 14:18 If you see this thing so often, why not catch some video? Camcorder, digital cam, phone cam... doesn't matter, just show some vid.

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saucer skeptic on Wed, 05/16/2007 - 13:24 I am curious if the Tahoe area had a very early spring this year. If you took these phots in April I am amazed by all the green and the lack of any snow on the ground. Himmmm????

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serraxor on Mon, 06/25/2007 - 14:54 LOL what a sweet design. Hopefully no one will be offended if I use it for art production ! >_> Of course, this is clearly CG, due to the surroundings not nearly syncing up with the craft itself. Ah well, cool nonetheless.

Well if this isnt interesting.
I'll add fuel to the fire. Wouldnt mind input from believers ans sceptics alike.

http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/
 
What is even more astonishing is that sane, educated astronauts like Ed Mitchell and Buzz Aldrin have admitted that these crafts exists, that their are extraterrestrials present in the local galaxy and nearby.

Please provide actual proof that Aldrin said anything of the kind.

*SIGH* People are in denial. There are thousands of images, videos and eye-witness accounts, including former astronauts who have all said that intelligent alien beings exist. You people should stop living in denial.

:rolleyes:

Obviously people are just in denial. It is the same with god - just look how many normal people believe; how many have "experienced" god. Just how many images of jesus in toast do they need to provide before the skeptics will be silenced?

More seriously though, you mention ex NASA employees that say aliens have visited us but how many current and ex NASA employees say nothing of the kind? Why do you believe some and not others? Because it confirms your beliefs.

The real question that people who believe aliens visit earth need to answer above all is why they do not land and publicly announce themselves?
 
Sadly, people will always refute any "evidence" because they don't want to believe it.
Actually, not true. I'd love to believe that we're being visited by little green men from space for no particular reason. I'd also love to believe that when I die I will go to some other dimension where I won't get sick or be sad and live forever. I believe neither, nor do I believe in Santa.

I'm glad you put "evidence" in quotes though, because that's what it is. "Evidence". Same as the "evidence" for big foot or the chupacabra, both have been seen and drawn since ancient times and described by competent zoologists who have their reputations on the line. They must be real.
 
Obviously people are just in denial. It is the same with god - just look how many normal people believe; how many have "experienced" god. Just how many images of jesus in toast do they need to provide before the skeptics will be silenced?

More seriously though, you mention ex NASA employees that say aliens have visited us but how many current and ex NASA employees say nothing of the kind? Why do you believe some and not others? Because it confirms your beliefs.

Because they fear ridicule? Because they fear throwing away a life of hard work and reputation?
 
It is difficult to imagine that the media is owned, or that the media is regulated or worse that the science we have been fed has also been censored. (for our own good).
Not really hard to imagine
Congressional Hearings Expose Censorship of Science
http://www.ncac.org/Congressional_Hearings_Expose_Censorship_of_Science

Censorship in the Media
Democratic countries, on the other hand, take pride in upholding the principle of freedom of speech. People are free to say and write whatever they wish, with some carefully defined exceptions. But in a market economy, there is another controlling power at work – the power of money. In North America, most mainstream publications depend on two income sources: subscriptions and advertisers. Both influence decisions about content. Readers must find the content relevant, interesting, tasteful, and entertaining, or they will drop their subscriptions. And advertisers will cancel their accounts if they consider the content to undermine or challenge their messages about the products they sell.
http://www.media-awareness.ca/engli...s/tobacco_advertising/censorship_in_media.cfm

Censorship of maps is also applied by Google maps, where certain areas are greyed out or areas are purposely left out-dated with old imagery.
Or how about this to hide the fact that there is censorship:
any information about existence of censorship and the legal basis of the censorship is censored.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship

It is a terrifying thought that such vital information could have been kept from us, through a relentless campaign of discrediting and disinformation by the CIA and governments in the know.
Not hard to imagine either - some rules of the game:
Disinformation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation
Black propaganda
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_propaganda
Big Lie - a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie
False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to deceive the public
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag_operation
Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) is a tactic of rhetoric and fallacy used in sales, marketing, public relations, politics and propaganda. FUD is generally a strategic attempt to influence public perception by disseminating negative information designed to undermine the credibility of their beliefs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt
Internet police - The major purposes of internet police, depending on the state, are fighting cybercrime, as well as censorship, propaganda, and monitoring and manipulating the online public opinion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_brigades

I agree that the lack of information is frustrating and I also don't understand why or how information available from commerical astro photographers and astronomers could have kept such a secret.
It is easy when all the photo's are processed through 1 or 2 seperate companies, The last Mars mission, had all the photo's being processed by 1 company.

One needs to understand that there are many ways people can be kept quiet, through the signing of acts, such as the Patriot Act, National Security Acts, Official Secrets Acts, etc etc and also through financial gain, threat of imprisonment, financial loss, gag orders there are many ways to influence people and to "persuade" them it is in their best interests not to disclose or divulge sensitive information.
 
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