Motorist kills attacker

[Skeptik]

Pitbull, I agree that that is very likely; however it is very probable that the shooter used a licensed firearm and while our forensic unit is not quite CSI, they should be able to recover a bullet and match it to the firearm



This shooting was evil, the shooter should have just beat the crap out of the guy, but killing him was wrong and we all know it.


100% Getafix and actually spend money on equipment and not on cars and houses for useless politicians

If this guy had any sense he would wait destroy the weapon completely and throw it in the deepest ocean then report it lost/stolen a few months later.

 

[TKD01]

Other than paying all sorts of taxes we have to employ our own security guards, constantly change tyres damaged by pot holes in our deteriorating roads, pay exorbitant private schools fees cause government schools aren't worth sh it, pay exorbitant medical aid schemes cause government hospitals aren't worth sh it, buy generators cause Eskom aint worth sh it etc etc etc etc etc

We getting sh it for our taxes mate and that's not how it should work... We subsidising mediocrity, insubordination and mass corruption. The only perk we get as tax payers is the right to harp on about it on myadsl... yippee...

SPOT ON! i could not agree more!

Citizens (and the word imply law-abiding) are fed-up with crime! Everyday we get raped, hi-jacked, murdered, etc and NOTHING is done at government level. I am also sick and tired of paying taxes which ends up in a "comrade's" brand new black BMW!

 

[bwana]

Pitbull, I agree that that is very likely; however it is very probable that the shooter used a licensed firearm and while our forensic unit is not quite CSI, they should be able to recover a bullet and match it to the firearm

So all licensed firearms are test fired and the bullets entered into the SAPS system?

 

[Dange--Russ]

So all licensed firearms are test fired and the bullets entered into the SAPS system?

hahahahha. tell me another one.

 

[CathJ]

Agreed. We shouldn't have to live in fear, but we shouldn't use that as an excuse to justify criminal behaviour. If you're looking for solutions, I can't offer you any that have not been mentioned before in this thread and others. I just don't think a bunch of angry citizens with guns is the answer. Arm yourself if you want, but don't expect leniency or sympathy if you do something stupid.

+1

 

[Pitbull]

I have a solution

Burn all outstanding docets. Abandon all the outstanding cases pending.

Now start of tomorrow with 0 crime and 0 investigations. Now deal with the new ones coming in as they happen and drive them thru till the end. The investigating officer will do nothing else till that case is resolved. If you need more people appoint more people.

That is the only way you will win. Currently they are so far behind they are lost and don't know where to touch what next. They have to investigate 40 - 50 cases at once How the fk do you investigate even 2 cases at once ? You can't one case needs your full 100% of attention and nothing less

Now that is a solution

 

[marine1]

So all licensed firearms are test fired and the bullets entered into the SAPS system?

No they are not, only state firearms are tested first.

 

[bwana]

I have a solution

Burn all outstanding docets. Abandon all the outstanding cases pending.

Now start of tomorrow with 0 crime and 0 investigations. Now deal with the new ones coming in as they happen and drive them thru till the end. The investigating officer will do nothing else till that case is resolved. If you need more people appoint more people.

That is the only way you will win. Currently they are so far behind they are lost and don't know where to touch what next. They have to investigate 40 - 50 cases at once How the fk do you investigate even 2 cases at once ? You can't one case needs your full 100% of attention and nothing less

Now that is a solution

I'm speechless.

Momentarily anyway

It's a simple four step process imo -

hire policemen - train them and put them on the streets . . .
hire policemen - train them and put them on the streets . . .
hire policemen - train them and put them on the streets . . .
hire policemen - train them and put them on the streets -

catching my drift.

This way you have crime prevention and investigation. Less crime (as a direct result of flooding the streets with policemen) means the focus can shift to clearing case loads.

 

[TiredOfWaiting]

You can't kill someone just because he smashed your window and grabbed some of your possessions.

How can anyone believe that this is acceptable behaviour for a human being?

 

[Pitbull]

I'm speechless.

Momentarily anyway

It's simple imo - hire policemen - train them and put them on the streets . . . hire policemen - train them and put them on the streets . . . hire policemen - train them and put them on the streets . . . hire policemen - train them and put them on the streets - catching my drift.

This way you have crime prevention and investigation. Less crime (as a direct result of flooding the streets with policemen means the focus can shift to clearing case loads.

I can agree with you on that. Problem is..... There are Millions of outstanding cases

Maybe Just keep the records and start off by working on a then new ones as they come in. Have some sort of Cold Case type of deal to work with the outstanding ones ?

But we need more Police, that is a given ofc

 

[Dange--Russ]

You can't kill someone just because he smashed your window and grabbed some of your possessions.

How can anyone believe that this is acceptable behaviour for a human being?

I think its fine... ...What?

He had it coming. Criminals need this kind of fear in them. Smash and grab might have convinced the idiot that he could profit more from other crime. Probably a rape victim saved by this guy dying.

 

[Pitbull]

I think its fine... ...What?

He had it coming. Criminals need this kind of fear in them. Smash and grab might have convinced the idiot that he could profit more from other crime. Probably a rape victim saved by this guy dying.

+1

Here in SA we're officialy GATVOL ! of crime. We will kill the bastards !
He was a smash and grabber by day and Prob. and Armed house breaker by night. Blame the crime rate in SA for his death

 

[TiredOfWaiting]

I think its fine... ...What?

He had it coming. Criminals need this kind of fear in them. Smash and grab might have convinced the idiot that he could profit more from other crime. Probably a rape victim saved by this guy dying.

You do realize that this is an extremely slippery slope to go on...

Today smash-and-grabbers, tomorrow under-aged drinkers/smokers.

Eventually you won't even need a reason to kill someone anymore.

 

[sox63]

I agree with R/SGT, this guy commited murder, at the very least manslaughter (sp?).

In that rage, he shot the guy which was NO threat to him at all, before or after he got his phone.

 

[orin76]

The Jo'burg Metro Police probably used the same logic when they decided to arrest people for minor traffic offenses a few months ago.

 

[Abe]

could you please enlighten me as to how you would have prevented this if you were running the police?

Firstly, two words. "Visible Policing". This is not just an odd occurance, smash and grabs are happening all of the time. As are murders, rapes and armed robberies. The ciminals believe they can get away with anything. Perhaps if the police were more visible, the criminals would not be so brazen.

An alternative would be to put up some camera at the so called "hot spots". There are lots of suggestions, most of which will cost some money which means they are unlikely to be done as the government would rather channel the money into one of their nice pocket filling BEE deals.

 

[Dange--Russ]

You do realize that this is an extremely slippery slope to go on...

Today smash-and-grabbers, tomorrow under-aged drinkers/smokers.

Eventually you won't even need a reason to kill someone anymore.

Under age drinking is not a violent crime. I admit it can lead to it but young kids passed out and making an arse of themselves is not the same kind of threat as someone willing to pull a gun on me in traffic for a phone or wallet.

To be honest after my own experiences I dont really need a 'good' reason to kill someone now. I just haven't been required to yet since the last one.

I have a family on the way now and I am not willing to let them become another story in the news like the guys wife who got raped infront of her little boy, or that young girl in fairie Glen who got raped and murdered. I would rather be arrested and locked up for life knowing I could spare those close to me that kind of horror.

 

[Abe]

You can't kill someone just because he smashed your window and grabbed some of your possessions.

How can anyone believe that this is acceptable behaviour for a human being?

Of course not. That said, the next step up the chain is hijacking etc. The criminals have no fear in this country. I very much doubt that the present murderers started from murder on day 1. They went up the chain and even smash and grabs need to be stopped. The police, however, don't seem to be too worried about these little crimes which just increases the problem.

 

[hj2k_x]

You can't kill someone just because he smashed your window and grabbed some of your possessions.

How can anyone believe that this is acceptable behaviour for a human being?

I dunno. I value my possession quite highly. A lot of work went into me making the money necessary to buy them. I don't think that someone should just be able to come and take it from me and then I must just sit there and do nothing..

 

[TiredOfWaiting]

I dunno. I value my possession quite highly. A lot of work went into me making the money necessary to buy them. I don't think that someone should just be able to come and take it from me and then I must just sit there and do nothing..

Nobody said that you should do nothing, just don't shoot the guy in the back while he's running away...