Multichoice launches XtraView

I really need one of you linux guru's to tell me what software and cards i need to be able to get this RF heartbeat over IP. cable won't work for me.

[edit] In my own house of course - have strong wireless AP :D


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For this to work. you are going to need to upgrade from a single LNB to a Twin LNB. Cable from LNB to both 1110 Decoder and then a "Heartbeat" from the decoder 1 IN to decoder 2 OUT for "Heartbeat" to work.
 
Or you can use the LNB-out port on your current Decoder. Otherwise, just go to a store selling TV componentry and buy a signal splitter. It does degrade the signal, however.
 
Or you can use the LNB-out port on your current Decoder. Otherwise, just go to a store selling TV componentry and buy a signal splitter. It does degrade the signal, however.

Will only work with the 1110 Decoders and if the smart card is +2
 
Or you can use the LNB-out port on your current Decoder. Otherwise, just go to a store selling TV componentry and buy a signal splitter. It does degrade the signal, however.

won't work with two decoders, remember the whole fiasco with single LNB and dual view, well the channel groups should apply the same way for the loop through as on;y decoder 1 can control the polirisation of the signal (using 12v8 iirc)

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So, let's get this straight. It has to be 2 x 1110? So my DSD990 won't help in this regard?

And then once I have the 2 x 1110 I just need some cable to link the two and I am set?
 
The 1110, SDPVR and HDPVR support this feature. Needs at least a twin LNB and a splitter with six outputs (depending on your setup). You also need a piece of coax between the two boxes.
 
The 1110, SDPVR and HDPVR support this feature. Needs at least a twin LNB and a splitter with six outputs (depending on your setup). You also need a piece of coax between the two boxes.

And these twin-LNB vibes...Will the shops know what they are and how much do they cost?
 
XtraView setup

The way I see it:

You need 2x decoders of a new type that can do monitoring of the 2nd decoder.

Thus you need to have the 1110 decoder model on both sides, because they need to "chat" to each other to send "alive" signals to each other.

You link them up through the RF connection (layman's terms, the TV antenna, coax cable, with TV antenna plugs)

You need either 2x separate dishes with a single LNB, like with the current single views, OR 1x dish that has got a Twin LNB (like the current twinview/pvr setups). Where each cable would run directly to each decoder.

That would then also mean, that each decoder will have to have a smartcard. Because the decoding is not happening over the antenna cable. It would require you to register both decoder/smartcards with Multichoice.

It's exactly like the old/first Twinview decoder, except now it is 2 separate devices, which means you can have stereo on both TVs, because you can now plugin in your RCA cables into each decoder. You can now also have multichoice's propriety applications (e.g. the sport task bar info, TV guide etc) on each decoder's TV. Where as you previously could not have done this with a single TwinView or PVR decoder.

If you want to use the LNB out on the 1st decoder, you will then only limit the 2nd decoder because digital channels are in groups. Each group is on a unique frequency. e.g Mnet and MM1 is in the same group, but their digital video channel IDs differ, so the device doesn't always tune to a different frequency when you change the (digital) channel. Remember DSTV satellite is already digital. The current stream is in mpeg2-ts, similar to modern digital camcorders that record to tape.

There is about 8 groups for premium, which then splits up further into 70 odd video channels and a 100+ audio channels.

Now if decoder 1 was tuned to a channel where the polarity, Vertical or Horizontal and High or Low Frequency was, the other group must then also fall in that exact same range. Which is unlikely, thus the reason why you need a twin LNB with a twinview (2x tuner) or the PVR device.

:)
 
That sounds like a lot of good info right there. :)

These LNBs go into the dish directly then? Are they cables or what? And are they expensive and some kind of mission to install?

*Satellite noob :o
 
The way this is explained sounds like the 2 decoders will have a physical link. At the moment it does not look like you can link 2 PVR's or link a DSD1110 to a PVR or old dual view.
 
I don't see what the big deal is about....

Smart Card splitters have been around since day 1.

Connect any model UEC(crap) to any other , even via Wifi link.

http://www.satshop.tv/en/SmartWi-Splitter/SMART-WI-CARD-SPLITTER::452.html

Then keep the R55 in your pocket.

Another way for No-Choice to suck the subs base. The only "heart-beat" they got is in the bank balance.

True, but I was explaining the way MultiChoice intended it from 'n legal point of view. :p Also the average Joe can't phone up Multichoice and ask: "Hey my splitter I bought over seas doesn't work, what frequency am I suppose to set the card reader to get the Irdeto II version 4/5/6 cards?"

Either forgot it is illegal, he/she will either get into trouble. If they want support from Multichoice, choose Xtraview.

That sounds like a lot of good info right there. :)

These LNBs go into the dish directly then? Are they cables or what? And are they expensive and some kind of mission to install?

*Satellite noob :o

The LNB (Low Noise Block) is the little elbow piece hanging in front of the Dish, single LNB (one cable) twin LNB (2x cables), don't get confused with dual LNB (a twin LNB is exactly like 2x single LNBs) a dual LNB is like a splitter, or plugging into the LNB Out of the 1st Decoder.

The LNB it self is what makes the dish, so if a single LNB dish voucher cost you R700, then buying a single LNB on its own without the dish, you will pay ~ R600. So I would then just add a whole other dish. Same goes with the twin LNB dish.

Of course if you are getting curious about what is *out* there. Then have a look at lyngsat.com, you will be surprised what else you can pick up for free.

;)
 
Single LNB or Twin required?

Still confused:confused:

I have 1 DSD 1011 decoder with a single LNB.

If I buy another DSD1011 and link it up via RF to the first decoder will I need to STILL ADD another LNB/dish to the 2nd (new) decoder??....then what's the point of linking the 2 up via cable in the first place?
 
Still confused:confused:

I have 1 DSD 1011 decoder with a single LNB.

If I buy another DSD1011 and link it up via RF to the first decoder will I need to STILL ADD another LNB/dish to the 2nd (new) decoder??....then what's the point of linking the 2 up via cable in the first place?

For the heart beat.

Yes - linked via a RF cable and a 'heartbeat' is needed between the two decoders for the second one to work. Some extra features (like being able to control decoder 2 from decoder 1), but basically having two decoders on one account.

What would be nice to know is, if one can now add even more than just the one additional decoder. I don't know what will happen if you wanted to add a 3rd decoder. Will have to wait and see what Multichoice has got to say.:o
 
@ chubster

The point I'm making is that the splitters allow you to use basically any of the STB's available.

Why go fork out again for 1110(worst cheap box so far) just so they can control your box over the air and prevent you from using your box with the new Sat TV broadcaster.

Anyways - this Xtra-cash in our pockets-view is only from current PVR and 1110 onwards...

AVR
 
@ chubster

The point I'm making is that the splitters allow you to use basically any of the STB's available.

Why go fork out again for 1110(worst cheap box so far) just so they can control your box over the air and prevent you from using your box with the new Sat TV broadcaster.

Anyways - this Xtra-cash in our pockets-view is only from current PVR and 1110 onwards...

AVR

Yes, I understand your point and you are correct, that it is cheaper. However taking petrol from your neighbors car's tank is also cheaper, but frowned upon... :rolleyes:
 
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