MWEB Uncapped Subscribers Feedback

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graytg said:
I think the problem just is that we don't know when we can download at full speed and when not. It's frustrating waiting at 8pm in thinking the speed will pick up, and then it doesn't... There is no problem in shaping, and many would agree we knew this from the start, but a more "structured" shaping system would be preferable. (where we know exactly when there's shaping)
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Valerion said:
If priority traffic is high, the network is under strain anyway, because otherwise there would be free capacity for non-priority traffic. And if the network is saturated, or close to, then I can't see how an ISP can "score". They provide a certain size pipe. If everyone uses their links, the pipe is too small and no-one gets all the data they want (shaping). If only some people use their pipes, then the main one is underutilized, and you get everything you want (non-priority traffic). So the time you get full unshaped bandwidth depends on how much the others use their pipes.

Think of it like water. If everyone opens their taps, no-one will have water pressure worth anything. The main pipes simply can't cope with it. So MWeb have priority pipes (drinking water) and non-priority (swimming pools). If they can adequately provide drinking water, then they allocate some to swimming pools. If more people open taps, the swimming pool water gets de-prioritized. How do you know how many taps are open for drinking water? You will have to trust your City Council with this, or MWeb in their case, to properly mange the bandwidth.
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Its a bit like a hybrid between electricity and water supply. With electricity you can't turn down the voltage (high priority things crash), but you can turn off the geyser and fridge (for a while). Water can be stored in reservoirs, but electricity can't (easily) be stored...

Anytime you want to use something, other people probably want too as well. Maybe we need to have a 'status' page, saying the network is currently very busy, like they do on TV for Eskom...
 
During these shaped hours (up till 11pmish), are the pings still low?
If I wanted to game at 8pm or so, would it be ok?
 
Thinking about switching over from access express+ to this new mweb deal. I play mostly international mmorpgs (wow and aion), was wondering if anyone has compared pings between mweb and axess? I connect through gamepath usually. If anyone with 4mb connection on mweb woudln't mind, could you ping path00.gamepath.net and report to me the results?

appreciate it!

Ooops, sorry put the wrong server link. Just corrected it: path00.gamepath.net

Thanks
 
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elievan said:
Thinking about switching over from access express+ to this new mweb deal. I play mostly international mmorpgs (wow and aion), was wondering if anyone has compared pings between mweb and axess? I connect through gamepath usually. If anyone with 4mb connection on mweb woudln't mind, could you ping gamepath00.gamepath.net and report to me the results?

appreciate it!
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My DNS doesn't resolve that. However:

PING gamepath.net (74.207.244.70) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=1 ttl=43 time=382 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=2 ttl=43 time=386 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=3 ttl=43 time=387 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=4 ttl=43 time=387 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=5 ttl=43 time=396 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=6 ttl=43 time=388 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=7 ttl=43 time=406 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=8 ttl=43 time=388 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=9 ttl=43 time=408 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=10 ttl=43 time=388 ms

--- gamepath.net ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9093ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 382.626/392.134/408.280/8.348 ms
 
hambone said:
So then, it would be safe to say that MWEB is shaped all the time and if the bandwidth available is sufficient you're lucky to download at full speed. Fair enough.
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At this point I think it's safe to say that ALL uncapped accounts are shaped all the time.
 
Oops sorry, gave the wrong address, its path00.gamepath.net

Thanks

Valerion said:
My DNS doesn't resolve that. However:

PING gamepath.net (74.207.244.70) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=1 ttl=43 time=382 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=2 ttl=43 time=386 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=3 ttl=43 time=387 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=4 ttl=43 time=387 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=5 ttl=43 time=396 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=6 ttl=43 time=388 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=7 ttl=43 time=406 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=8 ttl=43 time=388 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=9 ttl=43 time=408 ms
64 bytes from li86-70.members.linode.com (74.207.244.70): icmp_seq=10 ttl=43 time=388 ms

--- gamepath.net ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9093ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 382.626/392.134/408.280/8.348 ms
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elievan said:
Oops sorry, gave the wrong address, its path00.gamepath.net

Thanks
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PING path00.gamepath.net (213.175.212.66) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 213.175.212.66: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=248 ms
64 bytes from 213.175.212.66: icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=247 ms
64 bytes from 213.175.212.66: icmp_seq=3 ttl=50 time=249 ms
64 bytes from 213.175.212.66: icmp_seq=4 ttl=50 time=242 ms
64 bytes from 213.175.212.66: icmp_seq=5 ttl=50 time=242 ms
64 bytes from 213.175.212.66: icmp_seq=6 ttl=50 time=243 ms
64 bytes from 213.175.212.66: icmp_seq=7 ttl=50 time=259 ms
64 bytes from 213.175.212.66: icmp_seq=8 ttl=50 time=241 ms
64 bytes from 213.175.212.66: icmp_seq=9 ttl=50 time=241 ms
64 bytes from 213.175.212.66: icmp_seq=10 ttl=50 time=241 ms

--- path00.gamepath.net ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9016ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 241.413/245.845/259.755/5.503 ms
 
K3NS31 said:
At this point I think it's safe to say that ALL uncapped accounts are shaped all the time.
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maybe i'm missing something but aren't any shaped accounts shaped all the time? not talking semi-shaped.
 
milomak said:
maybe i'm missing something but aren't any shaped accounts shaped all the time? not talking semi-shaped.
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Shaped accounts are shaped all the time, perhaps I was being verbose. Was just trying to make the point that claims of "better during off-peak" and "feels unshaped at the evening and weekend", as all these uncapped ISP's are doing, really means shaped all the time and you're lucky if our bandwidth can cope with your "unpopular" protocols.
 
maybe the additinal capacity is online now. getting 300kB/s on astra
 
Not a MWEB (Corporate) fan, but connectivity is great, switched from Afrihost's so called "uncapped" (128 Kbps 60 GB softcapped).

Great results thus far,
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who.is.michael said:
Not a MWEB (Corporate) fan, but connectivity is great, switched from Afrihost's so called "uncapped" (128 Kbps 60 GB softcapped).

Great results thus far
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No need to spread lies....

Initially you will be getting our standard service. (i.e.
certain ports are shaped somewhat and web and email are
prioritised.)

After you have moved 30 GBs you will be moved into a
different category whereby certain ports will be shaped
more aggressively. However, web and email will still be
prioritised.

After moving a total of 60 GBs you will be moved into a
different category where your line speed is throttled to
1024 kbps per second and certain shaping protocols are in
place.

After moving a total of 90 GBs then you will be moved
into a category where you will be throttled to 512 kbps.
Certain shaping protocols will also be in place here.

After moving a total of 120 GBs you will be moved into a
category where your line will be throttled to 386 kbps.
Certain shaping protocols will also be in place here.

After moving a total of 150 GBs you will be moved into a
category where you are throttled to 128 kbps.

You will never be capped.
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LancelotSA said:
Initially you will be getting our standard service. (i.e.
certain ports are shaped somewhat and web and email are
prioritised.)

After you have moved 30 GBs you will be moved into a
different category whereby certain ports will be shaped
more aggressively. However, web and email will still be
prioritised.

After moving a total of 60 GBs you will be moved into a
different category where your line speed is throttled to
1024 kbps per second and certain shaping protocols are in
place.

After moving a total of 90 GBs then you will be moved
into a category where you will be throttled to 512 kbps.
Certain shaping protocols will also be in place here.

After moving a total of 120 GBs you will be moved into a
category where your line will be throttled to 386 kbps.
Certain shaping protocols will also be in place here.

After moving a total of 150 GBs you will be moved into a
category where you are throttled to 128 kbps.

You will never be capped.
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Thank God I'm with Mweb. I have used 95GB with Mweb so far and I'm still getting full speed. Now if I were with Afrihost I would be stuck with a 512k throttle the whole month. So yes. Mweb is better than Afrihost Uncapped.

Where did you get that Info btw cause I can't find it on the website.
 
cavedog said:
Thank God I'm with Mweb. I have used 95GB with Mweb so far and I'm still getting full speed. Now if I were with Afrihost I would be stuck with a 512k throttle the whole month. So yes. Mweb is better than Afrihost Uncapped.

Where did you get that Info btw cause I can't find it on the website.
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It is on the Afrihost Q&A thread and was posted by Gian. Mweb have mentioned that their terms are open to change at any time... so take advantage while you can... you may soon find throttling heading your way. And you can then blame no one other than yourself.
 
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