My Windows 10 experience

CamiKaze said:
So... about Microsoft Edge...

:mad::mad::mad:

Any of you wait forever for a page to load and then after a while it just... stops and you stare at a blank page?
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Without extension support there's no point even using Edge. No Adblock Plus, Enhanced Steam, HD Youtube, Flashgot, Ghostery, Lastpass etc.

Microsoft really should have had extensions done in time for the release of Windows 10. Getting people to switch early on would have helped them a lot.
 
How much data has your system downloaded since you moved. One machine is at 30gb and another is shy of 40gb :erm:

All from the System.exe
 
Don't know but there have been three rather large Win 10 updates today -----

MS Edge is growing on me, but agree that add-on and extension support is required.
Never used Firefox any of the other Browsers. Apparently one of the recent WIN 10 updates also causes Chrome to crash -- Google knows about it according to MS, as if that is supposed ot make one feel better.

My biggest hassle has been with getting HP printers to work. I could not get a Laserjet pro 1415fnw printer to work with the so called "universal" WIN 10 drivers. The HP sw would not install. I was forced to ensure all previous installs of HP products were uninstalled, then had manually delete all HP folders on my HDD, and then manually edit the registry to remove every single reference to HP before a new install of HP sw was possible. A HP forum sites reported that quite a few HP printer uninstall routines do not have a scrubber and hence all sorts of things stay behind. WIN 10 no longer has a built-in Registry cleaner as MS apparently believe it is unnecessary. ---- :wtf:
 
You must download the ms tool for blocking their drivets then install the others - be it graphics, printer or whatever ...
 
Bryn said:
Without extension support there's no point even using Edge. No Adblock Plus, Enhanced Steam, HD Youtube, Flashgot, Ghostery, Lastpass etc.

Microsoft really should have had extensions done in time for the release of Windows 10. Getting people to switch early on would have helped them a lot.
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I agree.

On the other hand, the "proper" Windows 10 is only being released in October. That was always the plan, and the schedule. Some time earlier this year SN - at the request of major OEMs - decided to try for the Back to School season, so they split it into Th1 and Th2. The 29 July Th1 release (Build 10240) is just a clean working subset. An insider whisper is that almost all the OEMs begged MSFT to shoot for the USA's Back to School because sales were/are crappy and they needed to slow the sales drop. The new regime is eager to rebuild relationships with OEMs, so they relented and went for a two-step release.
 
Early on I had my wireless adapter driver corrupted by a defrag, but I blame that on the defrag program. Overall I'm extremely happy how Windows 10 is performing and the upgrade was seamless.
 
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Arthur said:
An insider whisper is that almost all the OEMs begged MSFT to shoot for the USA's Back to School because sales were/are crappy and they needed to slow the sales drop. The new regime is eager to rebuild relationships with OEMs, so they relented and went for a two-step release.
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Windows 10 is just another 8.x. Windows 8 was a complete flop, now some tablet oriented restrictions were removed, but is is still not a replacement for modern desktop operating system. System "Settings" a terrible experience. Starting from Win 7 MS is replacing Control Panel with "intelligent crosslinks" in which even experienced user get lost. Now we have even worse - a dual menu settings and a new one doesn't look any better. It is because design is far from complete (switching at random to the old one) and also a scalling issue (having tablet touch screen in preference). I have never experienced so much scrolling on 1080p screen in my life.

I think Microsoft didn't learn much from Win 8 flop, they still continue pushing fat-finger tablet agenda for desktops. Once people learn how much effort is needed to protect privacy (frequently is to late) and how fast their 3G data bundle is depletted, they will realise Win10 is a cheat.

One Windows 7 the most hatred feature is still here. Before Win7 double clicking on the title bar would bring full screen and back to the actual window. Windows 7 brought unwanted complications to this scheme, and now Edge or IE don't even remember previous widows position.

On the side note, Windows is probably the only modern operating system which don't support scrolling of the window content pixel by pixel and the horizontal scrolling is completely useless. If MS wants to be present on the tablet market, they must fix this gap to the market leaders.
 
One more issue that I picked up on my laptop is that when I lock the screen or switch the laptop off then it doesn't really switch off or wake from the lock. The screen stays blank and I have to keep the power button in for a few then switch it back on.
 
My Windows 7 laptop upgraded perfectly. My Windows 8.1 laptop took hours to update.
It shows the Start icon, but absolutly nothing happens when I click on it. Right click works tho.
I had to use the shortcut to get to Settings so I could roll back.
Any ideas?
 
Bryn said:
My initial installation was horrible. Loads of bugs, long loading screens and a black screen instead of a desktop for the first few minutes. Did a clean install after that and it's been great since.
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Strange, I installed clean on my one laptop & upgraded on the other, similar specs, both Dell. The upgraded one performed much nicer, everything just worked, absolutely zero issues. The clean installed one had lots of weird issues, missing drivers, was slower, etc.
 
CamiKaze said:
One more issue that I picked up on my laptop is that when I lock the screen or switch the laptop off then it doesn't really switch off or wake from the lock. The screen stays blank and I have to keep the power button in for a few then switch it back on.
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I've got the same issue on one of my machines, if you ever do find a fix, please spread the how to far and wide!
 
If you enable Picture Unlock on PC with multiple User Profiles, the other user profiles are not shown on the lockscreen.

Bit irritating that and had to switch that machine to PIN option.
 
nelwa said:
I've got the same issue on one of my machines, if you ever do find a fix, please spread the how to far and wide!
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Figured it out with a quick Google Search. Windows implemented a new "hybrid" shut down method.
The benefit of it was to load windows start up and shut down times quicker so you computer is never completely shut down, it is just a better version of "sleep"... apparently.

Go to your power options, go to "Choose what the power buttons do" and scroll down to "Shutdown Settings".

Uncheck "Turn on fast startup".
 
CamiKaze said:
Figured it out with a quick Google Search. Windows implemented a new "hybrid" shut down method.
The benefit of it was to load windows start up and shut down times quicker so you computer is never completely shut down, it is just a better version of "sleep"... apparently.

Go to your power options, go to "Choose what the power buttons do" and scroll down to "Shutdown Settings".

Uncheck "Turn on fast startup".
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There is a itsy weenie little trick to this one. At the top of the screen, there is an option that must be selected before you can change that setting as they could all be greyed out." change settings that are currently unavailable " must be selected first.
Another consequence of this so called" enhancement" is that the battery will continue to drain and you may find when you try and boot up, that the battery is actually flat.
 
CamiKaze said:
Figured it out with a quick Google Search. Windows implemented a new "hybrid" shut down method.
The benefit of it was to load windows start up and shut down times quicker so you computer is never completely shut down, it is just a better version of "sleep"... apparently.

Go to your power options, go to "Choose what the power buttons do" and scroll down to "Shutdown Settings".

Uncheck "Turn on fast startup".
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Tried it, doesn't solve the problem, but thanks anyway.
 
I know an issue that I had with Windows 10 was that I could never enter the BIOS/Interface because the machine would constantly bypass the POST screen. It's more like a hibernate than a real shut down. More frustrating than beneficial. I'd rather wait the extra 20 seconds.
 
Totempole said:
I know an issue that I had with Windows 10 was that I could never enter the BIOS/Interface because the machine would constantly bypass the POST screen. It's more like a hibernate than a real shut down. More frustrating than beneficial. I'd rather wait the extra 20 seconds.
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Try a ps/2 keyboard. I got legacy usb support enabled in bios but no go, ps/2 kb works though. Else disable the fast boot feature.
 
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