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Bikers in good old South Africa should be confined to 125cc bikes and mandatory training for the first two years since getting a learners.

Last night this dumbass in Douglasdale tried to pass me on the left at a right hand turn robot. The only reason I know he was there is because once I completed my turn the SO told me about him.

Seriously, what kind of stupid does one have to be to think "hmm, it's the dead of night and the safest thing I can do is position myself in this car's blindspot and take my chances between the car and the curb".

They dish out licenses to anybody these days.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here, and assume the biker had no lights, a super silent exhaust, came flying up on your left at a rapid rate of knots so was to all intents and purposes invisible to you & everyone else on the road?

If not, it may be a grand idea for you to snap out of tunnel vision mode & learn some spatial awareness when driving - a good way to do so is to use your side & rear view mirrors. They're not there to only be used when you want to change lanes!
 
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here, and assume the biker had no lights, a super silent exhaust, came flying up on your left at a rapid rate of knots so was to all intents and purposes invisible to you & everyone else on the road?

If not, it may be a grand idea for you to snap out of tunnel vision mode & learn some spatial awareness when driving - a good way to do so is to use your side & rear view mirrors. They're not there to only be used when you want to change lanes!
/comicsans
100% that biker did nothing wrong
 
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here, and assume the biker had no lights, a super silent exhaust, came flying up on your left at a rapid rate of knots so was to all intents and purposes invisible to you & everyone else on the road?

If not, it may be a grand idea for you to snap out of tunnel vision mode & learn some spatial awareness when driving - a good way to do so is to use your side & rear view mirrors. They're not there to only be used when you want to change lanes!
Best you do give me the benefit of the doubt then.
 
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here, and assume the biker had no lights, a super silent exhaust, came flying up on your left at a rapid rate of knots so was to all intents and purposes invisible to you & everyone else on the road?

If not, it may be a grand idea for you to snap out of tunnel vision mode & learn some spatial awareness when driving - a good way to do so is to use your side & rear view mirrors. They're not there to only be used when you want to change lanes!

:crylaugh: :crylaugh: :crylaugh:
 
Bikers in good old South Africa should be confined to 125cc bikes and mandatory training for the first two years since getting a learners.

Last night this dumbass in Douglasdale tried to pass me on the left at a right hand turn robot. The only reason I know he was there is because once I completed my turn the SO told me about him.

Seriously, what kind of stupid does one have to be to think "hmm, it's the dead of night and the safest thing I can do is position myself in this car's blindspot and take my chances between the car and the curb".

They dish out licenses to anybody these days.

Don’t you mean on the right?

The curb wouldn’t be on the left at a right turn?
 
What difference would a 125 make in that situation vs a more powerful bike?
 
What difference would a 125 make in that situation vs a more powerful bike?
I believe some European countries actually enforce this. In my opinion it forces the rider to pay more attention to traffic since he can't always speed past everybody.

But I'm no trainer ...just venting
 
They enforce a horsepower restriction, not necessarily engine capacity, I believe.
Size of the engine in this case won't really do much for the use-case. It's the noggin controlling the throttle that is defective.

The idea is that if the rider isn't overwhelmed by the power, he/she is more easily able to focus on other aspects of controlling the bike. They say it's easier to learn on a lower power bike, which I guess makes sense.

At the end of the day, no amount of restriction can fix stupid.
 
Sorry if already posted.

I see Kawasaki are releasing a tribute to the iconic Z1. What a beast that was in its day. My cousin had one of the first in SA. It was the first Kawa I'd seriously considered owning, because the big two-stroke triples were just too temperamental.

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All this reminiscing makes me realise that it's probably time to flog the V-Max. I've had it for twenty years and not even clocked twelve thousand. It's the ungoverned Canadian model imported by Charlie Young in '97. My boet will probably want it so at least it'll stay in the family. Old bikers never die. They just get a Lambretta. But Lambretta died, so I guess I'll have to settle for a Vespa. With boot.

Sic transit gloria mundi.
 
So I finally rode the almighty and much lauded R1200GS Trophy Edition properly today thanks to @slapdash. I rode a GS many moons ago when much less experienced and I think still air cooled and not very far at all.

Going into it the motivation was really just to compare some oddities with my own bike that has the same Engine, Brakes, Clutch and Gearbox before the 20,000km service and end of warranty.

So I expected it to be much the same thing really with just the sitting position being different.

What a massive surprise then to find that the two bikes are completely different.

The clutch and gear lever action are about the closest thing but even those aren’t exactly the same. Where mine feels very far apart and more clicky between gears the GS feels almost spongy although closer together. Granted I’m used to the quick shifter and did mostly clutched changes here but when riding home used the clutch on mine a bit more and it’s quite different.

The real surprise is the difference in handling between the Telelever on the GS and conventional but dynamic suspension on the RS. I had absolutely no idea what the front end was doing and there is almost like a step where it’s either up right or feels like it’s about to let go.

Sure it’s also a case of road tyres vs semi offroads but I’m pretty sure most of it relates to the lack of dive. Under braking the way it squats is also weird but it doesn’t throw you off from a perception of stopping point of view.

Oddly the GS feels smaller than the RS. There is less going on in front of you and the nose seems shorter. Standing up and leaning forward I couldn’t see the front tyre at all so it’s tucked in closer to you and I think you sit more on the front wheel than between them.

Quite sure the GS wheelbase is shorter but would need to check that later.

Interestingly it didn’t feel as super comfort couch as I expected from a pure seat vs soft suspension point of view. I do believe the non-Trophy versions might be sprung a bit softer though.

The Mirrors I klapped with my hand more than once as they are right in your face where I’ve become very accustomed to having them forward mounted on the fairing. Didn’t adjust them for my preference but they seems very close together compared to mine.

Aerodynamically it’s much the same up to about 150km/h then it becomes quite apparent that the RS has the advantage and will throw another 30km/h on top of that to get similar resistance.

For two identical engines the fuelling system differences are quite quite staggering. The GS is very low torque of idle and pretty linear up the revs. The RS is a bit dead right off idle and picks up properly from 2500rpm or so but feels almost like a turbo engine in power delivery terms.

I do suspect the tree huggers may have something to do with the engine differences as it’s a 2015 vs 2016 but will need to check on that.

Following the RS on a particular stretch I simply couldn’t get to trusting the GS into corners. I can only liken it to understeer on a car but that’s not quite the right description. It literally feels like there is a sponge or elastic stuck around the forks that prevents you from steering. It never feels dangerous really but the confidence to push it a bit simply wasn’t there. In contact I found the F800GS very quick to jump on and ride almost at full tilt.

I’ve always read that the telelever takes some getting used to but didn’t expect it to be this hectic. It would take me weeks to settle into this and even then I’m not sure I could ever trust it completely.

Jumping back on the RS, which isn’t an uncomfortable bike in the slightest, I suddenly felt like my knees were around my ears and the bike was super narrow. Can’t say I felt like I was on my wrists exactly but the steering geometry is crazy different.

However as always jumping on your own bike feels like home and I felt I had control back immediately and was easily keeping up with the GS at a decent pace without having to try too hard. In fact I could have passed quite happily but wasn’t really in a racing mood.

The grips on the standard BMW setup are stupidly thin. My Grip Puppies make a massive difference there and I can’t imagine going without them.

All in all it was actually pretty astounding how the bikes differ and I now understand why some owners would have more than one Boxer engined bike because it isn’t really the same thing at all.
 
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All this reminiscing makes me realise that it's probably time to flog the V-Max. I've had it for twenty years and not even clocked twelve thousand. It's the ungoverned Canadian model imported by Charlie Young in '97. My boet will probably want it so at least it'll stay in the family. Old bikers never die. They just get a Lambretta. But Lambretta died, so I guess I'll have to settle for a Vespa. With boot.

Sic transit gloria mundi.


Pm me if serious about selling . We ll keep it in the family . MyBb family :)
 
So I finally rode the almighty and much lauded R1200GS Trophy Edition properly today thanks to @slapdash. I rode a GS many moons ago when much less experienced and I think still air cooled and not very far at all.

Going into it the motivation was really just to compare some oddities with my own bike that has the same Engine, Brakes, Clutch and Gearbox before the 20,000km service and end of warranty.

So I expected it to be much the same thing really with just the sitting position being different.

What a massive surprise then to find that the two bikes are completely different.

The clutch and gear lever action are about the closest thing but even those aren’t exactly the same. Where mine feels very far apart and more clicky between gears the GS feels almost spongy although closer together. Granted I’m used to the quick shifter and did mostly clutched changes here but when riding home used the clutch on mine a bit more and it’s quite different.

The real surprise is the difference in handling between the Telelever on the GS and conventional but dynamic suspension on the RS. I had absolutely no idea what the front end was doing and there is almost like a step where it’s either up right or feels like it’s about to let go.

Sure it’s also a case of road tyres vs semi offroads but I’m pretty sure most of it relates to the lack of dive. Under braking the way it squats is also weird but it doesn’t throw you off from a perception of stopping point of view.

Oddly the GS feels smaller than the RS. There is less going on in front of you and the nose seems shorter. Standing up and leaning forward I couldn’t see the front tyre at all so it’s tucked in closer to you and I think you sit more on the front wheel than between them.

Quite sure the GS wheelbase is shorter but would need to check that later.

Interestingly it didn’t feel as super comfort couch as I expected from a pure seat vs soft suspension point of view. I do believe the non-Trophy versions might be sprung a bit softer though.

The Mirrors I klapped with my hand more than once as they are right in your face where I’ve become very accustomed to having them forward mounted on the fairing. Didn’t adjust them for my preference but they seems very close together compared to mine.

Aerodynamically it’s much the same up to about 150km/h then it becomes quite apparent that the RS has the advantage and will throw another 30km/h on top of that to get similar resistance.

For two identical engines the fuelling system differences are quite quite staggering. The GS is very low torque of idle and pretty linear up the revs. The RS is a bit dead right off idle and picks up properly from 2500rpm or so but feels almost like a turbo engine in power delivery terms.

I do suspect the tree huggers may have something to do with the engine differences as it’s a 2015 vs 2016 but will need to check on that.

Following the RS on a particular stretch I simply couldn’t get to trusting the GS into corners. I can only liken it to understeer on a car but that’s not quite the right description. It literally feels like there is a sponge or elastic stuck around the forks that prevents you from steering. It never feels dangerous really but the confidence to push it a bit simply wasn’t there. In contact I found the F800GS very quick to jump on and ride almost at full tilt.

I’ve always read that the telelever takes some getting used to but didn’t expect it to be this hectic. It would take me weeks to settle into this and even then I’m not sure I could ever trust it completely.

Jumping back on the RS, which isn’t an uncomfortable bike in the slightest, I suddenly felt like my knees were around my ears and the bike was super narrow. Can’t say I felt like I was on my wrists exactly but the steering geometry is crazy different.

However as always jumping on your own bike feels like home and I felt I had control back immediately and was easily keeping up with the GS at a decent pace without having to try too hard. In fact I could have passed quite happily but wasn’t really in a racing mood.

The grips on the standard BMW setup are stupidly thin. My Grip Puppies make a massive difference there and I can’t imagine going without them.

All in all it was actually pretty astounding how the bikes differ and I now understand why some owners would have more than one Boxer engined bike because it isn’t really the same thing at all.

When you're a bit bigger I ll let you take my K 1300 GT for a spin . Honestly I had no idea just how well the beast goes and I haven't looked back. My other bikes now feel strange as they gather dust when they once all felt "right"
Tempted to upgrade to 1600gt but horsepower at 160 is the same so I ll give it to Julian to Dyno and tweak it some:)
 
When you're a bit bigger I ll let you take my K 1300 GT for a spin . Honestly I had no idea just how well the beast goes and I haven't looked back. My other bikes now feel strange as they gather dust when they once all felt "right"
Tempted to upgrade to 1600gt but horsepower at 160 is the same so I ll give it to Julian to Dyno and tweak it some:)

That’s right the K1300 was telelever as well hey.

I never rode a K1300S back when offered because at the time it wasn’t the bike for me.

Does the RT have it?

Also wtf is with the bit bigger? I could go test ride anything I fancy at any time (that they still make) and have ridden a **** load of bikes so no idea what that’s on about.
 
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