Name and Shame: Unauthorised Debit Orders Thread

[icantchooseone]

Just an update on this. Turns out it WAS MWeb. Back in 2003, i had an ADSL account, which came with a free email address (icon.co.za, carried over from Tiscali and DD before that). Anyway, i cancelled my ADSL account back in 2003, but MWeb didn't cancel the email address(?). Now they have decided that the "free email address" is worth R29.00 a month (things must be really bad at MWeb) and started charging for them; 23 years later!!! Anyway, the support guy at Mweb seemed quite amused.

how did you not spot this for 23 years ?

 

[Snotface]

how did you not spot this for 23 years ?

They just started debiting it after 23 years.

 

[icantchooseone]

They just started debiting it after 23 years.

whew !!!!!!! i was just calculating it , 8k over 23 years

 

[icantchooseone]

They just started debiting it after 23 years.

https://www.reddit.com/r/askSouthAfrica/comments/1v7l3sk/mweb_cant_explain_the_balance_so_what_now

 

[Snotface]

whew !!!!!!! i was just calculating it , 8k over 23 years

Yeah, that would have been something totally different. It seems they just decided that the "free email", that one would assume got cancelled when i cancelled my ADSL line in 2003, would have been closed too. Now they thnk it is worth R29.00 a month. If they hadn't cancelled it so readily, i would have challenged them to supply SMTP server details just to see what's in that email account..

 

[icantchooseone]

Yeah, that would have been something totally different. It seems they just decided that the "free email", that one would assume got cancelled when i cancelled my ADSL line in 2003, would have been closed too. Now they thnk it is worth R29.00 a month. If they hadn't cancelled it so readily, i would have challenged them to supply SMTP server details just to see what's in that email account..

with so many free email services out there its hard to believe people still use services like MWEB

i placed an online order yesterday , the contact email was a paid one ending @business.co.za

the owner replied to me from a MWEB email LOL

 

[BTTB]

go to www.mycreditcheck.co.za

sign up for free and you can see if you have any issues on your name, that's how I picked up Vodacoms illegal "trying to bill and sue me" contract that was taken out in my name from a twat far far away, worth a squizz every now and then.

its free

I recall many years ago checking my credit score with Experian, so I did another today.
Great score of 681!

I have a Vodacom account since 2003, remembered filling in those forms, something akin to a Bond application back then, there was so much legalese.
I only have one Credit Check against my name which was in January this year, from my own bank.

Still not trusting of any of these things, since being spoofed in April this year.

I and a Company we paid were spoofed in April to the tune of R26K due to a bank account number switch on an invoice.
All I can say is, it's not easy with these matters, you literally have to prove your innocence here.
The ISPs claim nobody was hacked; no emails were intercepted.
SAPS don't even call you despite both parties logging a case number.
Your bank is still getting back to you with their investigation as to the account holder, the fraudster in other words.
You're left holding the can, so to speak.

I learnt something I never knew.
You can put any name to a beneficiary on your banking; it's the account number that is important. Meaning you could call the beneficiary Mary Poppins, it doesn't matter, it's the actual bank account number that will ensure the passage of funds, not the name. After all these years of being in business, I was gobsmacked that I never knew this. Here I am painstakingly checking each and every added beneficiary that I typed out the name correctly.
- The banks need to change this; names and bank account numbers should match in my opinion.
If this was the case, we would not have been defrauded of R26K in April.

Sorry to have gone off topic.

The only debit order "fraud" I was party to was from Trudon (formerly Telkom Directory Services), Telkom's advertising, digital marketing, and directory subsidiary.
It published the official Yellow Pages and White Pages on behalf of Telkom.
It appears that Trudon had some enthusiastic marketers that signed up a lot of people.
The problem came when these amounts just started appearing in your Telkom account.
Phone Telkom, they refer you to Trudon.

 

[supersunbird]

I learnt something I never knew. You can put any name to a beneficiary on your banking; it's the account number that is important. Meaning you could call the beneficiary Mary Poppins, it doesn't matter, it's the actually bank account number that will ensure the passage of funds, not the name. After all these years of being in business, I was gobsmacked that I never knew this.

And I bet you were making sure all these years that persons gave you the the exact right name? Account nr and Bank name/branch code are only things that matters.

 

[BTTB]

And I bet you were making sure all these years that persons gave you the the exact right name? Account nr and Bank name/branch code are only things that matters.

Yes.

Most banks simply have one branch code, which means all you need is the Bank name and the Account Number. You could call the beneficiary Mark Poppins, it doesn't matter.
I lived all these years to discover this only now.

To add to the dilemma, you'd think because of FICA/RICA or whatever CA the government wanted from us still means nothing, because once you've actually traced down the fraudster, if the bank ever gets there, the bank can't tell you their name or address because of POPI.

What a farce.