New The PC Build Thread

9800x3d is a hit worldwide.
dd2665889a7d9c7aaf1c0f93a8e7e682.jpg
 
Fulcrum29 said:
I don't know why there are so many people out there arguing against buying the 9800X3D. There seems to be this issue with 720/1080p benchmarks. They do understand that it is the CPU being benched and not the GPU?

Hardware Unboxed said it best:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1854438581135401371



People aren't only taking a dig at them, they are taking a dig at all reviewers which did these benchmarks at these resolutions. It is math.

Besides, who will now buy a 7800X3D when you can now buy a 9800X3D? It makes sense in the used market, but you won't get savings there either or at least not now. From how I see it, there are only two CPUs that serious gamers should consider, either the 5700X3D (whilst it lasts) and the 9800X3D. In my opinion, it is not worth saving the odd R1 000 by choosing the 7800X3D over the 9800X3D. Not given the current pricing. The 9800X3D is a massive improvement in benchmarks, hardware, and capability support.

Just bizarre. Either people have buyer's regret, have no one to speak to, hence needing attention, or are on someone's payroll, who knows?

There are circumstances where the 7800X3D should be considered, but all on AM5, it will likely boil down to availability, but where the 9800X3D becomes scarce due to demand, the 7800X3D won't become any cheaper either. Not to ignore that the 7800X3D is also becoming limited in availability. AM4 is still capable.

This whole argument is pointless anyway, all benchmarks conclude that the 9800X3D is the new gaming king irrespectively. Throw in next year's GPUs, and naysayers will have to eat their own current opinion.
Click to expand...

Because some people think that getting a 9800x3d will give them a massive boost in frame rate over their 5800x3d when playing at 4k on a 4070 or 4080.

In reality this isn't the case.

GPUs are by far the most limiting factor for gaming FPS at high resolution which is exactly why they have to go down to 1080p (on a 4090!) to see the difference between the CPUs.

So it is really quite pointless spending big bucks on the newest CPU when you can buy (or keep your) last generation or even a 2 generation old CPU and spend the money you saved on a better GPU. That will be a far better combo for your FPS at 4k.
 
Last edited:
Longboi said:
Another quick Q -

Is the Deepcool AK620 Digital air cooler enough for a 9800x3D or should I go AIO?

This is my Build atm:

PC Builder - Wootware

Use the PC Builder to build your new epic computer for gaming, office, or personal use. Easily choose components for each hardware category and assist with compatibility. Woot up your life using the Wootware PC Builder today.
builder.wootware.co.za builder.wootware.co.za
Click to expand...
You did go on about not using fan coolers for pretty much anything that gets warm (really?) ..so stick to the liquid cooling you advocated in other posts :)
 
Longboi said:
Another quick Q -

Is the Deepcool AK620 Digital air cooler enough for a 9800x3D or should I go AIO?

This is my Build atm:

PC Builder - Wootware

Use the PC Builder to build your new epic computer for gaming, office, or personal use. Easily choose components for each hardware category and assist with compatibility. Woot up your life using the Wootware PC Builder today.
builder.wootware.co.za builder.wootware.co.za
Click to expand...

Cool, you can give us a AK620 Digital Pro review since the American and Canadian reviewers won't. It should be better than the current Assassin IV until the VC comes along. For considering the standard AK620 digital, which is not in stock with Wootware, the ID-Cooling A620 or its PRO sibling (which is cheaper, and have better RAM clearance) can be considered.

These coolers are more than enough to cool the X3D CPUs.
 
tetrasect said:
Because some people think that getting a 9800x3d will give them a massive boost in frame rate over their 5800x3d when playing at 4k on a 4070 or 4080.

In reality this isn't the case.

GPUs are by far the most limiting factor for gaming FPS at high resolution which is exactly why they have to go down to 1080p (on a 4090!) to see the difference between the CPUs.

So it is really quite pointless spending big bucks on the newest CPU when you can buy (or keep your) last generation or even a 2 generation old CPU and spend the money you saved on a better GPU. That will be a far better combo for your FPS at 4k.
Click to expand...
The last time I upgraded my cpu was 7 to 8 years ago when I bought my 7700k.

I plan on keeping the 9800X3D for a long time as well and only play at 1080p. I just want a CPU that will not be an issue or bottleneck for a long time

But yeah the guys upgrading for minimal gains I don't understand either
 
ninjaman509 said:
The last time I upgraded my cpu was 7 to 8 years ago when I bought my 7700k.

I plan on keeping the 9800X3D for a long time as well and only play at 1080p. I just want a CPU that will not be an issue or bottleneck for a long time

But yeah the guys upgrading for minimal gains I don't understand either
Click to expand...

What GPU are you getting?
 
For someone currently on AM4 with a Ryzen 5 3600 should I stay on AM4 for now or rather look at getting an AM5 Mobo and CPU.
What CPU would you suggest for AM4 if I should stay

GPU: Nvidia 3060
Memory: 16GB

Games: Flight Simulator 2020, COD Black Ops 6, F1 2023 and some older games.
 
5700X3D unless you have the money and want to go AM5. But if that's the case then I would say upgrade your GPU first :D
 
UrBaN963 said:
5700X3D unless you have the money and want to go AM5. But if that's the case then I would say upgrade your GPU first :D
Click to expand...

Its kinda n hard pill to swallow, could not wait so in 2022 paid 12k for my GPU and now its 6K and its not good enough anymore, FML
 
Privateuser456 said:
For someone currently on AM4 with a Ryzen 5 3600 should I stay on AM4 for now or rather look at getting an AM5 Mobo and CPU.
What CPU would you suggest for AM4 if I should stay

GPU: Nvidia 3060
Memory: 16GB

Games: Flight Simulator 2020, COD Black Ops 6, F1 2023 and some older games.
Click to expand...
Depends on the resolution you play at. Will need a full upgrade if its higher resolutions and want all the eyecandy.
and
Got to ask yourself the main question though. Are you going to eventually get an am5 x3d cpu replacement later on?
or just go midspec am5 and do a cpu upgrade again. (which most people never do and just go new platform again)

If not then just go max out the am4 for cheaper and save up for when you can jump ship to a new x3d platform in the future.

AM5 is a new board, cpu (at least a 7600 to kinda match a 5700x3d) and DDR5 ram. (thats about about a 10k investment)
AM4, 5700x3d is a stupidly massive boost over the 3600. x3d cpu's dont shine so much in flight sims though, even the new ones (this is just a 3.8-4.5k cpu upgrade depending where you get the cpu)

5700x3d outperforms even the new intel nonsense they released
 
Exaelea said:
Depends on the resolution you play at. Will need a full upgrade if its higher resolutions and want all the eyecandy.
and
Got to ask yourself the main question though. Are you going to eventually get an am5 x3d cpu replacement later on?
or just go midspec am5 and do a cpu upgrade again. (which most people never do and just go new platform again)

If not then just go max out the am4 for cheaper and save up for when you can jump ship to a new x3d platform in the future.

AM5 is a new board, cpu (at least a 7600 to kinda match a 5700x3d) and DDR5 ram. (thats about about a 10k investment)
AM4, 5700x3d is a stupidly massive boost over the 3600. x3d cpu's dont shine so much in flight sims though, even the new ones (this is just a 3.8-4.5k cpu upgrade depending where you get the cpu)

5700x3d outperforms even the new intel nonsense they released
Click to expand...
Thanks for the detailed response, I was looking at doing a proper upgrade to AM5 but can't justify spending the 15k it may cost.

I have been playing at 1080p for the last 10 Years, but I am getting a Dell 27" 2k curved 165hz secondhand so first time moving over 1080p for gaming.

I have made peace that I will never be able to play at 4k 400HZ lol especially with the prices of GPU, maybe best will be to upgrade the CPU in the AM4 linuep and upgrade the memory to 32GB
 
Privateuser456 said:
Thanks for the detailed response, I was looking at doing a proper upgrade to AM5 but can't justify spending the 15k it may cost.

I have been playing at 1080p for the last 10 Years, but I am getting a Dell 27" 2k curved 165hz secondhand so first time moving over 1080p for gaming.

I have made peace that I will never be able to play at 4k 400HZ lol especially with the prices of GPU, maybe best will be to upgrade the CPU in the AM4 linuep and upgrade the memory to 32GB
Click to expand...
Yep thats what most do, even I did that. 5700x3d and 32gb ram. Aint selling a kidney to fuel a fancy gpu.
 
Console you're stuck with either super expensive games or a monthly sub to play games, which they change and you cant play again/till it cycles back.

PC master race \o/ *cough* "free" games
 
Privateuser456 said:
Thanks for the detailed response, I was looking at doing a proper upgrade to AM5 but can't justify spending the 15k it may cost.

I have been playing at 1080p for the last 10 Years, but I am getting a Dell 27" 2k curved 165hz secondhand so first time moving over 1080p for gaming.

I have made peace that I will never be able to play at 4k 400HZ lol especially with the prices of GPU, maybe best will be to upgrade the CPU in the AM4 linuep and upgrade the memory to 32GB
Click to expand...
If you are going to be playin at 2K with a 3060 then I hope you really enjoy solitaire and Tetris. My 3070 was okay at 1440p but a 3060 is going to struggle. It'll be okay in some games but you're definitely going to want some extra juice, especially with newer games or higher settings.
 
Privateuser456 said:
Thanks for the detailed response, I was looking at doing a proper upgrade to AM5 but can't justify spending the 15k it may cost.

I have been playing at 1080p for the last 10 Years, but I am getting a Dell 27" 2k curved 165hz secondhand so first time moving over 1080p for gaming.

I have made peace that I will never be able to play at 4k 400HZ lol especially with the prices of GPU, maybe best will be to upgrade the CPU in the AM4 linuep and upgrade the memory to 32GB
Click to expand...

For that resolution, a Ryzen 3600 and a 3060 are actually a good match.

Wouldn't really do you much good FPS-wise to upgrade the CPU...

 
UrBaN963 said:
If you are going to be playin at 2K with a 3060 then I hope you really enjoy solitaire and Tetris. My 3070 was okay at 1440p but a 3060 is going to struggle. It'll be okay in some games but you're definitely going to want some extra juice, especially with newer games or higher settings.
Click to expand...

While I do agree, I've found that in newer games the higher settings don't really do much other than tax your GPU. Like it's barely even noticeable visually but takes a massive chunk off your FPS lol.

Hardware unboxed looked at a bunch of games and found that raytracing doesn't actually do much in most games and can even make things look worse in some games.

1731077439491.png
 
tetrasect said:
While I do agree, I've found that in newer games the higher settings don't really do much other than tax your GPU. Like it's barely even noticeable visually but takes a massive chunk off your FPS lol.

Hardware unboxed looked at a bunch of games and found that raytracing doesn't actually do much in most games and can even make things look worse in some games.

View attachment 1772205
Click to expand...
Yea I saw that too. Really depends on the game though. Turning settings down in Starfield or Cyberpunk makes a massive difference. RT is neither here nor there really. I use it because I can and sometimes I notice something cool, but I probably couldn't pass a blind test on RT.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top
Sign up to the MyBroadband newsletter
X