New to DSLR

Option 1(a) - Canon EOS 700D DSLR with EF-S 18-55mm IS STM Lens, Sandisk 16GB Card and Bag - R7,295.00
https://www.ormsdirect.co.za/canon-eos-700d-dslr-with-ef-s-18-55mm-f-3-5-5-6-is-stm-lens-1883

Image stabilised lens for hand held landscape is a plus, throw in a tripod faily strong and stable such as :
Manfrotto Compact Action Tripod - R995.00
https://www.ormsdirect.co.za/manfrotto-compact-action-tripod-mkcompactacn-bk

So for R8290 you have a very nice starter kit for landscape photography.

Just remember that your ideal landscape shots are the "golden hours" around sunrise and sunset, so stability is very important, hence tripod, and if possible throw in a cable release for shutter as well.
 
[XC] Oj101;15214969 said:
Only cause you're a n00b that can't get close enough.

I hope to graduate to sunsets and selfies… one day.
 
I see the 750D is coming out this month. I wonder if the 700D's price will drop (or has it already dropped)?

/FOMO

If I recall correctly, the 700D is virtually identical to the 650D so you might want to consider it.
 
Takealot:
R6,999
Canon 650D 18MP Blockbuster Twin Lens Bundle
Canon 18-55mm DC lens, a Canon 75-300mm DC lens, a SanDisk 16GB Extreme SDHC card, a Canon DSLR backpack, face filter software and a SLIK tripod.

Orms:
R7,495
Canon EOS 700D
EF-S 18-55mm + EF 75-300mm DC Lens, Toshiba 8GB Wi-Fi Card and Bag
 
I hope to graduate to sunsets and selfies… one day.

You can only do that once you learn that P is for Pro mode. Pros use it exclusively, stop trying to show off that you know the technical aspects of your camera by using M, Av and Tv, there's more to photography than that.
 
[XC] Oj101;15216744 said:
You can only do that once you learn that P is for Pro mode. Pros use it exclusively, stop trying to show off that you know the technical aspects of your camera by using M, Av and Tv, there's more to photography than that.

No :D....:erm:
 
No :D....:erm:

I'm serious. There's this guy called Ken Rockwell who really knows his ****, he's been a photographer for a very long time and says outright that P is short for Pro Mode.

@bwana, I'm not quite a pro yet so I can't get close enough but I have been practising my P mode like a champ. Until I go pro I need a decent telephoto lens and was wondering your thoughts on the original Canon 100-400 and cropping in post? I don't know it at all, but if it's anywhere near as sharp as the Mk2 it'll be a better bet that the Tamron 150-600 I'm eying.
 
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[XC] Oj101;15217316 said:
I'm serious. There's this guy called Ken Rockwell who really knows his ****, he's been a photographer for a very long time and says outright that P is short for Pro Mode.

@bwana, I'm not quite a pro yet so I can't get close enough but I have been practising my P mode like a champ. Until I go pro I need a decent telephoto lens and was wondering your thoughts on the original Canon 100-400 and cropping in post? I don't know it at all, but if it's anywhere near as sharp as the Mk2 it'll be a better bet that the Tamron 150-600 I'm eying.
Ken Rockwell is a d**s, totally outspoken.

To the op, stay away from the 70-300dc, rather look at a Sigma 10-20 or Canon 10-22 if you're wanting to do landscapes. The 18-55 kit lens will be more than adequate for medium range family snaps.
 
[XC] Oj101;15217316 said:
I'm serious. There's this guy called Ken Rockwell who really knows his ****, he's been a photographer for a very long time and says outright that P is short for Pro Mode.

@bwana, I'm not quite a pro yet so I can't get close enough but I have been practising my P mode like a champ. Until I go pro I need a decent telephoto lens and was wondering your thoughts on the original Canon 100-400 and cropping in post? I don't know it at all, but if it's anywhere near as sharp as the Mk2 it'll be a better bet that the Tamron 150-600 I'm eying.

On a serious note, the issue with P mode is that you pretty much have to be taking pics full time to use it effectively - for an occasional photog like myself, there is no way I'll never remember all the intricacies of the setup for each different situation.

I've read a lot of books, been on a couple of courses, practiced a lot, but the reality is that without constantly using what you learn, you forget.
 
On a serious note, the issue with P mode is that you pretty much have to be taking pics full time to use it effectively - for an occasional photog like myself, there is no way I'll never remember all the intricacies of the setup for each different situation.

I've read a lot of books, been on a couple of courses, practiced a lot, but the reality is that without constantly using what you learn, you forget.

Yeah it's called Pro Mode for a reason! Now if only noobs like bwana could understand that they really know nothing about photography.
 
I'd go for option 1, the one kit lens. AFAIK the EF 75-300mm DC lens is really not great, no image stabilization which is not great for a lens with that zoom range. There's a reason they throw it in for very little extra money. I think that lens is a waste of money, even if in a kit it only "costs" you R1000 or so extra. Rather put that R1000 towards something better in future.

If you had the money I'd go for the kit with a 18-135mm lens, it's a great walk around lens, enough zoom for most situations. It's only when you want to do sport or wildlife that you'd consistently need a longer zoom. The 18-55 mm will probably have better image quality due to the smaller zoom range (haven't read up), and be a bit cheaper. I always find myself wanting a bit more reach when I use it though, 135mm works better for me.

There is currently a big sale on canon lenses and cameras, don't know how long it's gonna last.

https://www.ormsdirect.co.za/canon-eos-700d-dslr-with-ef-s-18-55mm-f-3-5-5-6-is-stm-lens-1884

Nice sale on the kit with 18-135, but a bit over your budget:

https://www.ormsdirect.co.za/canon-eos-700d-dslr-with-ef-s-18-135mm-f-3-5-5-6-is-stm-lens

Good luck and enjoy!
 
[XC] Oj101;15217316 said:
I'm serious. There's this guy called Ken Rockwell who really knows his ****, he's been a photographer for a very long time and says outright that P is short for Pro Mode.

@bwana, I'm not quite a pro yet so I can't get close enough but I have been practising my P mode like a champ. Until I go pro I need a decent telephoto lens and was wondering your thoughts on the original Canon 100-400 and cropping in post? I don't know it at all, but if it's anywhere near as sharp as the Mk2 it'll be a better bet that the Tamron 150-600 I'm eying.

the original 100 - 400 is a fantastic lens. the problem is though, because it is a push pull lens, i do find it creeps a bit. this makes back button focusing quite difficult.
 
[XC] Oj101;15218054 said:
Yeah it's called Pro Mode for a reason! Now if only noobs like bwana could understand that they really know nothing about photography.

I've disabled P mode for now - I'm just not ready for it yet. Baby steps.

I mostly shoot in TeleVision mode because like most photographers I harbour a secret desire to one day shoot video and shooting in TV should help prepare me for that.
 
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