No more 40D...

koffiejunkie said:
You didn't look at the photozone reviews before you bought it?

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8 USM L @ 16mm:
http://www.photozone.de/images/8Reviews/lenses/canon_1635_28/16mm_distortion.png

Sigma AF 10-20mm f/4-5.6 HSM EX DC @ 10mm:
http://www.photozone.de/images/8Reviews/lenses/sigma_1020_456/10mm_distortion.png

16mm on FF would give you the same field of view as 10mm on a 1.6x crop body, right? Given my experience with my EF lenses on both the 40D and film Rebel, I would say that for the same lens, barrel distortion is much more pronounced on the full frame. For example, the 24-105 shows hardly any barrel distortion at 24mm on the 40D - at least not enough to be easily visible in my photos, even architecture photos. But on the film body the distortion is fairly apparent. Enough that a lot of the guys on the 5D/1D forums call this lens "poor" :eek:
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Unless I'm greatly mistaken that's not my lens.
 
koffiejunkie said:
Enough that a lot of the guys on the 5D/1D forums call this lens "poor" :eek:
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That's because they are weirdos.
They spend more time on those forums than using that lens.
If they're going to shoot brick walls head-on, at wide angle, then they deserve the distortion.
 
ldmelsa said:
That's because they are weirdos.
They spend more time on those forums than using that lens.
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True. And they compare it to the EF 24-70mm f/2.8 USM L which is just stupid, because it has a smaller range, lacks IS and costs more - of course it's going to distort less at the wide end.

ldmelsa said:
If they're going to shoot brick walls head-on, at wide angle, then they deserve the distortion.
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That's what the Sigma 10-20mm is for :)

BTW, I spent some time going through the tests of all the wide lenses on photozone. It looks like, all round, Sigma does the ultra-wide better than Canon. It beats the EF 20mm f/2.8 USM (the widest prime they tested) and even the EF 24mm f/1.4 USM L. I'd be curious to see them test the EF 14mm f/2.8L II USM on test, especially on a FF body.
 
koffiejunkie said:
...right when he decides to scratch his balls :D
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Lol, well i think you should flog(g) all the canon stuff and just get yourself a new Nikon set with some nice lenses :p:D

Nha then people will steal it within a day or two, stick to canon, not very many people will try and take something like that :p
 
Anyway, I've pretty much decided what to get next, so the hunt is pretty much over, I just need to wait for funds to be available.
 
5DmkII if the price comes down at all, otherwise 50D. But I decided I might just buy some useful glass before getting a new body. I have my EOS film body, so I might get a cheap superzoom in the mean time.
 
koffiejunkie said:
5DmkII if the price comes down at all, otherwise 50D. But I decided I might just buy some useful glass before getting a new body. I have my EOS film body, so I might get a cheap superzoom in the mean time.
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As long as you still have a cam and you can shoot it is not the end of the world. Hope the cops catch them :(
 
Devill said:
As long as you still have a cam and you can shoot it is not the end of the world. Hope the cops catch them :(
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I have my digital P&S and two film bodies, so I'll be OK. Pity I can't use my Sigma 10-20mm on the film body. Or maybe I can? Will try it when I get it back - I don't mind sacrificing a £24 body for a greater cause :) A rectilinear 10mm on a FF body would be truly awesome!
 
koffiejunkie said:
I have my digital P&S and two film bodies, so I'll be OK. Pity I can't use my Sigma 10-20mm on the film body. Or maybe I can? Will try it when I get it back - I don't mind sacrificing a £24 body for a greater cause :) A rectilinear 10mm on a FF body would be truly awesome!
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Nice to see you are not to depressed and already making plans to shoot some more :)

Good luck mate and hope you get what you need until you can get what you want.
 
koffiejunkie said:
Sigma 10-20mm on the film body. Or maybe I can?
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you can do that with the Tokina 11-16 2.8
only the Nikon version though - EFs and EF are different mounts
the Tokina actually works at 16mm (15 with a little bit of vignetting but great at 16mm) on FF or 35mm Nikons

if I get this lens for my D90 it will still work for my D4x :p at 16mm
 
ldmelsa said:
you can do that with the Tokina 11-16 2.8
only the Nikon version though - EFs and EF are different mounts
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I thought the FF nikons go into crop mode when you mount a DX lens?

ldmelsa said:
the Tokina actually works at 16mm (15 with a little bit of vignetting but great at 16mm) on FF or 35mm Nikons
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Well, 16mm is not what I was referring to. 16mm on a FF would give me the same field of view as 10mm on the crop body. I was thing 10mm on FF - that would be real wide!

Anyway, for ultra wide there is the Sigma 12-24mm F4.5-5.6 EX DG HSM
 
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