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Guys,

Great game even though we were crap - Quality of RVP is why we signed him..

Carrick is useless and he showed that when on the pitch in defence and when in Midfield, he is completely pathetic. I dont agree that cleverly left him exposed - FFS Carrick doesnt even run, he just stands there waiting for a pass to pass right back. He cant chase an opposition MF and doesnt cover anybody in defence. Carrick exposed my a$$!!!!:mad: - it wasnt Cleverly or any one else that caused him to give the ball away so many times or to not run after any player or to just stand there in space and watch the game while everybody else played

Scholes is only decent when coming on for the last 10min and the opposition is tired other than that, he is just as ineffective. What it did show is that we play better with a 442 formation. So either he puts his trust in Kagawa and Cleverly or trust Ando in there with a 451 becuase Carrick needs to f()ck off!!
 
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Stickfigure said:
Ok I'll agree he was exposed. As I said Cleverley was invisible. Carrick did have some good balls over the top. Kagawa was also quite ineffective today. Nani should definitely start on the left.

Defense is still looking very shaky, understandable but still.

Evra needs an extended period on the bench.
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Stop trying to cover for Carrick!!!!!! Cleverly won the ball in MF more times that Carrick and it was Cleverly who was left to do all the work. and Kagawa was Kagawa but was fouled so many times that he looked out of it - how the f()ck did Schiederlin get away with it.

Tell me something - Did Cleverly and Kagawa cause Carrick to pass to the opposition so many times or get tackled with the ball because he is too slow?

How did Lambert get that free kicks off Vidic when Lambert clearly fouled him!!!!?!!
 
RvP :D

our left once again our left was open cause kagawa cannot play on the left ..he attacks through the middle ...

carrick never had such a good game ...

Evra can furk off now

buttner needs a start and then maybe evra will realise he needs to wake up

i think we need to start using a 4 5 1 till rooney gets back with nani/young on the left and valencia on the right and kagawa in the centre behind RVP

scholes/carrick and clevs/ando in the MF

but other good thing is RIO and Vidic is back :D
 
samr1wp said:
RvP :D

our left once again our left was open cause kagawa cannot play on the left ..he attacks through the middle ...

carrick never had such a good game ...

Evra can furk off now

buttner needs a start and then maybe evra will realise he needs to wake up

i think we need to start using a 4 5 1 till rooney gets back with nani/young on the left and valencia on the right and kagawa in the centre behind RVP

scholes/carrick and clevs/ando in the MF

but other good thing is RIO and Vidic is back :D
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Fergie needs to trust his MF's thats why he plays them not so? If Kagawa and Clev cant hold the middle in a 442 then we can change it up but FFS give them a chance - playing Carrick ir Scholes aint gonna be any better (may be even worse).

We play best in a 442 esp with the wingers we have Kagawa can still play behind not one but 2 strikers and Cleverly can do the running around - we still have defenders who need to defend, so why do we need an extra man in MF unless we are playing for a shut out - I thought we didnt want to loose on goal difference ever again so why play so defensively?!?!?!?!
 
Randhir said:
Any stats to back that up?
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I will have to search - only going on what I saw:)

But he was bad - the man doesnt even run with the ball or without and his passes (which is his strenght) was misplaced so many times...why do we play him for what reason?
 
dbecks said:
I will have to search - only going on what I saw:)

But he was bad - the man doesnt even run with the ball or without and his passes (which is his strenght) was misplaced so many times...why do we play him for what reason?
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Now? CDM. Can you remember any especially searching passes by Cleverly? I remember one move by Kagawa, and that was it. I remember a few interceptions by Carrick.
 
i would be worried if i were you guys. united clearly not winning anything the league this year. if RvP gets injured then u guys will struggle.
 
KOPITE said:
i would be worried if i were you guys.
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Clearly you'd be worried about us, who are in the top 5 and have scored three times as many goals as you guys, than worry about your own team who are in the bottom 3 and have two strikers.
 
KOPITE said:
we rebuilding as usual this year.
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Oh goody. Will be watching with great anticipation. The amount of time you guys are taking to rebuild, you'd better be building a team of 4 Beckenbauers, 4 Zidanes and 2 Messi's.
 
@dbecks

* Michael Carrick (central-midfield): 115/126 passing (91%), 2 chances created, 0/1 crosses, 8/8 long balls, 0/0 through balls, 2 tackles, 1 interception, 1 shot (0 on target)

* Tom Cleverley (central-midfield | substituted off 61'): 50/53 passing (94%), 1 chance created, 0/1 crosses, 1/1 long balls, 0/0 through balls, 1 tackle, 0 interceptions, 0 shots

http://www.thebusbybabe.com/2012/9/...atch-quotes-southampton-2-3-manchester-united
 
Randhir said:
Now? CDM. Can you remember any especially searching passes by Cleverly? I remember one move by Kagawa, and that was it. I remember a few interceptions by Carrick.
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Carrick is ***** just cant reason as to why he gets played and still stays on the pitch
 
Randhir said:
@dbecks

* Michael Carrick (central-midfield): 115/126 passing (91%), 2 chances created, 0/1 crosses, 8/8 long balls, 0/0 through balls, 2 tackles, 1 interception, 1 shot (0 on target)

* Tom Cleverley (central-midfield | substituted off 61'): 50/53 passing (94%), 1 chance created, 0/1 crosses, 1/1 long balls, 0/0 through balls, 1 tackle, 0 interceptions, 0 shots

http://www.thebusbybabe.com/2012/9/...atch-quotes-southampton-2-3-manchester-united
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Flip I wish it were him instead on Roon in the reatment room

Sorry Randhs but he irritates me
 
dbecks said:
Flip I wish it were him instead on Roon in the reatment room

Sorry Randhs but he irritates me
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He made a 115 passes though, thats pretty good. You need someone just to sit in there and keep the ball moving. I think Carrick is underrated.
 
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