Official Man United Supporters' Thread

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KOPITE said:
I know its 3 pre season games, but he's got to show the fans that the job is not too big for him.
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Any fans that are judging Moyes in the first 3 pre season games are dim to be totally honest.

KOPITE said:
he is a mid table manager that have not won any trophies.
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Like Brendan Rodgers...

KOPITE said:
only time will tell if he will buckle under the pressure.
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So what you are saying is Manchester United is much bigger than Liverpool hence the pressure is much greater, something we agree on.

KOPITE said:
we will see this season, looks like man u will be fighting with arsenal to get a champions league spot.
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And Liverpool will be fighting Swansea/Everton etc for that 6/7/8th spot :D
 
KOPITE said:
another loss for the mancs
jeez the season has not even started yet and moyes is under pressure already.
shame poor lad
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While I realise that Liverpool's only hope of success is in preseason friendlies, I would caution you in expecting other teams treat them as anything more than a fitness exercise.
 
icyrus said:
While I realise that Liverpool's only hope of success is in preseason friendlies, I would caution you in expecting other teams treat them as anything more than a fitness exercise.
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But that's what pre-season game are for. Fitness and gelling the team :D

Its frustrating to see your team lose, but at the end of the day. Was it a full strength squad and remember pre-season friendlies are there to work out the niggles and other stuff
 
icyrus said:
While I realise that Liverpool's only hope of success is in preseason friendlies, I would caution you in expecting other teams treat them as anything more than a fitness exercise.
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With second string players they doing well considering - they are second string for a reason :D
 
KOPITE said:
I'm proud to be a Liverpool supporter.
LFC is bigger then the players, unlike Rooney who seems to think he is above Man U
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You are like the gift that keeps on giving. Except the gifts are just troll comments :|
 
KOPITE said:
I'm proud to be a Liverpool supporter.
LFC is bigger then the players, unlike Rooney who seems to think he is above Man U
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I've heard things have gotten so bad that even Suarez is embarassed that a racist like you supports LFC.
 
Pretty harsh statement, but Verheijen knows his stuff:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...aching-methods-says-Dutch-fitness-expert.html

Robin van Persie's pre-season injury niggle is down to 'dinosaur coaching' methods, says Dutch fitness expert

Van Persie was withdrawn at half-time during United’s friendly in Japan on Tuesday because he had experienced tightness in a thigh.

Moyes said the substitution was pre*cautionary and that he expected the striker to be fine, but the new Manchester United manager was still subjected to stinging criticism from Raymond Verheijen, who has worked with Barcelona, Chelsea and Manchester City among others and has a reputation for being outspoken.

Writing on his Twitter account, Verheijin noted that Moyes had previously said United had ‘overtrained’ Van Persie at the start of pre-season.

He wrote: “In Sydney Moyes said: ‘We’ve overtrained Robin this week to build up his fitness’. [In Japan] he picked up muscle injury. It really makes you wonder how these prehistoric training methods can still take place at the highest level.

"The only way to solve this problem in Jurassic Park is to improve education of these dinosaur coaches, fitness clowns & scientific cowboys.

"All over the world in pre-season you see the pattern ‘overtraining-fatigue-injuries’. Always avoid accumulation of fatigue in pre-season.

"But as long as most dinosaurs are still in denial & ignore how things develop in other countries, nothing will ever change in Jurassic Park. Obviously, players like RVP should learn to protect themselves better against ‘overtraining’ & ‘punishing training’.”

Moyes admits he will be forced to rely on Ryan Giggs to guide him through the early stages of United’s Champions League campaign after admitting he has much to learn about the competition.

Moyes, who suffered a 4-2 aggregate defeat with Everton against Villarreal in the 2005-06 qualifying stages, will experience the Champions League proper for the first time as a manager when United begin their group stage fixtures in September.

Having taken charge of Everton on 26 occasions in Europe, Moyes was unable to go beyond the last 16 of the Uefa Cup or Europa League, but he takes charge of United with the club aiming to build a squad capable of winning the European Cup for a fourth time.

But while conceding that he will go into the Champions League as a relative rookie this season, Moyes believes that player-coach Giggs, who has more than 150 European appearances to his name, will be a crucial sounding board during the group stages.

“For me, the Champions League will be a thrill, but I’m going to have to learn a lot quickly,” Moyes said. “That’s where I’m looking to the likes of Ryan Giggs and a few players around me for the things which I need to be told about.

“It’s not all about the playing side of it – I’ve been in the Champions League [qualifiers], watched loads of games and managed in the Europa League – everybody has to start somewhere.”

With efforts continuing at United to lure Barcelona midfielder Cesc Fabregas to Old Trafford, Moyes, in Osaka ahead of Friday’s friendly in Japan, remains hopeful of adding to the squad he inherited from Sir Alex Ferguson before the start of the season.

But having admitted that he must win a trophy quickly, Moyes is determined to add to the club’s history of success in Europe.

“The history of this club is immersed in Europe and I think to win one of the big European tournaments would always been seen as something special,” Moyes said.

“Winning your own domestic league is very important, but winning the Champions League has become very important, for the country and Premier League as well.

“I think the year when Manchester United and Chelsea played in the final, everyone connected to football in this country stuck their chest out.

“It was the German teams this year, in the past it’s been the Spanish teams. I genuinely think there’s a swell of pride from our country that we want the British teams to do really well.

“But I’ve got to say I’m really looking forward to it and hopefully we can do well this season and I do think it’s a much more open competition than it has been in the past.

“Even from the draw – if you don’t get a particularly good draw it can become a struggle whichever part of the world you’re playing in now.”
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RexxGrim said:
“In Sydney Moyes said: ‘We’ve overtrained Robin this week to build up his fitness’.

This is the Moyes comment he was unhappy about.
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Yep, pretty much. And for a fitness coach who has created fitness plans for teams lauded for their fitness, I do value his opinion, even if harsh...
 
Maverick Jester said:
Yep, pretty much. And for a fitness coach who has created fitness plans for teams lauded for their fitness, I do value his opinion, even if harsh...
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Apperently Arsenal has released a press statement that Gunnersaures is furious over the Dutch fitness experts use of the terms "Jurrasic Park" and "dinosuar coaches" in this context. :p

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RexxGrim said:
“In Sydney Moyes said: ‘We’ve overtrained Robin this week to build up his fitness’.

This is the Moyes comment he was unhappy about.
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Maverick Jester said:
Yep, pretty much. And for a fitness coach who has created fitness plans for teams lauded for their fitness, I do value his opinion, even if harsh...
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Yet he still doesn't know the specifics about Moyes comment, for example he could have been over trained in the gym doing upper body weight training. Could that be have an impact on his thigh? It seems like a lot of speculation by Verheijen based on one word Moyes has said, anyways according to Moyes Rvp is fine and will play in the next match.
 
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