Official Man United Supporters' Thread

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Liverpool fans can't be plastic, they have one only one champions league in 20 years.

You're making my point here, reactions from the crowd to an under performing manager isn't necessarily an indication of fans plasticity. In fact i would go one step further and say that your real plastic fans wont bother too much with forms of dissent, they will just move on to supporting other clubs.

Can anyone enlighten us as to what position Liverpool was in when he was fired?

If you look at things in context, then Uniteds position is just as much a disaster as Liverpools was. I repeat again though, the vast majority of supporters are still very supportive of the team. The supporters during the 0-3 loss to Liverpool, chanting whilst Liverpool were scoring.

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Benitez was booed because of his connection to Liverpool. End of story.

So? They werent exactly acting like fans of the year and they certainly weren't helping their team.
 
You're making my point here, reactions from the crowd to an under performing manager isn't necessarily an indication of fans plasticity. In fact i would go one step further and say that your real plastic fans wont bother too much with forms of dissent, they will just move on to supporting other clubs.



If you look at things in context, then Uniteds position is just as much a disaster as Liverpools was. I repeat again though, the vast majority of supporters are still very supportive of the team. The supporters during the 0-3 loss to Liverpool, chanting whilst Liverpool were scoring.

So? They werent exactly acting like fans of the year and they certainly weren't helping their team.

I don't know. You make a good point. Just when you read the hundreds of comments on Sky Sports after every game, they all are saying Moyes should be fired.

I agree, plastic fans will more than likely move on, but I believe that is how they ended up with Man Utd in the first place.

Regarding Rafa, I agree that it did not help the team, but you can see why he was never accepted. He came from a rival. \

Moyes is a different story, he is trying his best with what he has, and granted, it has not come off but Im sure in time he'l do better. He didn't inherit the greatest team...
 

I don't get this picture at all.

1) Chelsea sack their managers regardless if they have good or bad seasons.
2)Because United has never bought expensive players. (They've already spent big on Fellaini, RvP and Mata in the recent past)
3)Whats wrong with remembering the good times?
4)That trophyless manager(and Arsenal) is doing a much better job than Moyes/United is at the moment.
5)What does the last sentence even mean? (What's this United Way??)
 
I don't know. You make a good point. Just when you read the hundreds of comments on Sky Sports after every game, they all are saying Moyes should be fired.

I think Moyes should be fired, you can hold that opinion yet still be supportive of Manchester United.

I agree, plastic fans will more than likely move on, but I believe that is how they ended up with Man Utd in the first place.

Undoubtedly United have plastic fans, i think a lot of them have already left, apparently facebook and twitter numbers have dropped some. You're a Liverpool supporter right? If Liverpool continue to progress and find success, they will have the same issue.

Regarding Rafa, I agree that it did not help the team, but you can see why he was never accepted. He came from a rival.

Sure it was a stupid appointment in that regard.

Moyes is a different story, he is trying his best with what he has, and granted, it has not come off but Im sure in time he'l do better. He didn't inherit the greatest team...

Moyes didnt inherit the greatest team i agree, but he also didnt inherit the 7th best team. Right now i would say 70% of the problems are Moyes related and 30% the squad.
 

I agree, it doesn't achieve anything positive, it only makes United look like a bit of a circus. The media of course are loving it though, even if its probably the idea of 5-10 people.
 
Some nice discussion going on here.

I think Moyes should be fired, you can hold that opinion yet still be supportive of Manchester United.

Exactly. I think John Barnes said, support the badge on the front of the shirt rather than the name on the back. Players come and go, as do managers but the club will remain.


Undoubtedly United have plastic fans, i think a lot of them have already left, apparently facebook and twitter numbers have dropped some. You're a Liverpool supporter right? If Liverpool continue to progress and find success, they will have the same issue.

It's an issue with all sports, it's just how things are.
 
I think Moyes should be fired, you can hold that opinion yet still be supportive of Manchester United.



Undoubtedly United have plastic fans, i think a lot of them have already left, apparently facebook and twitter numbers have dropped some. You're a Liverpool supporter right? If Liverpool continue to progress and find success, they will have the same issue.



Sure it was a stupid appointment in that regard.



Moyes didnt inherit the greatest team i agree, but he also didnt inherit the 7th best team. Right now i would say 70% of the problems are Moyes related and 30% the squad.

Fully agree with your first 3 points.

As for the 4th, I think the top 5 have better teams than United, don't you? Everton have been playing really well, and I feel only they have a worse squad than Utd. But you seem to disagree? It's debatable I guess.
 
Some nice discussion going on here.



Exactly. I think John Barnes said, support the badge on the front of the shirt rather than the name on the back. Players come and go, as do managers but the club will remain.




It's an issue with all sports, it's just how things are.

Agreed, so why single United out and call their fans plastic.
I'm not saying you did.
In fact F1 went as far as to defend other fans. Granted there was not planes flying around with banners, but I think anyone will agree that the majority of fans support Moyes at the matches, home and away.
United went from 1st to 7th. That qualifies for a similar situation as Hodgson with Liverpool, yet the fans reaction was then justified. Liverpool fans are joking at how Moyes' comments are Hodgson esque, so why are United fans not afforded the same? Chosen one or not.

Personally I will be patient, I will accept the banter from rival fans. I will support Moyes until he leaves or is fired. United have been very good since I started watching football.
With or without Moyes United will rise again and many of the supporters will have gone through the bad times and enjoy the good when they come.
 
As for the 4th, I think the top 5 have better teams than United, don't you? Everton have been playing really well, and I feel only they have a worse squad than Utd. But you seem to disagree? It's debatable I guess.

Only if you're looking at things under Moyes, i would say at the start of the season United had the 3rd best squad. The facts are that Moyes took over the champions by 11 points, invested 70 million and had the emergence of Januzaj. The season has been an absolute failure, basically the worst case scenario was achieved, the only thing where minimums have been achieved is the champions league.
 
David Moyes says his predecessor as
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson
would have struggled at Old Trafford this
season.
The ex-Everton boss has been criticised for
United's poor performances, with one
supporters' group planning to have a plane
banner flown in protest.
United are seventh in the Premier League, 26
points worse off than at the same stage under
Ferguson last year.
"If Sir Alex was here it would be difficult for
him as well," said Moyes.
"It could have been the case no matter what
this season, but it has been so un-Man
United, which is why we have to look to
continue a policy of building, improving,
getting better and that's what we'll try and
do."
The Scot highlighted the number of United
players approaching the end of their careers
as evidence even Ferguson, the most
successful manager in the British game, would
have struggled to improve the side's form.
Midfielder Michael Carrick and defenders
Patrice Evra and Nemanja Vidic are 32, while
centre-back Rio Ferdinand is 35 and 40-year-
old Ryan Giggs is in his 24th season at the
club, now as a player-coach.
"People are aware there is a squad that is
ageing, so I think it would have been a tough
season for whoever was in charge of
Manchester United this year," he said.
 
Unbelievable. In one go, he trashed Fergie and the team, EPIC FAIL !! No coming back from that one.
 
Its like hes trying to win a contest where he has to say something with increasing levels of stupidity each week.
 
De Gea; Rafael, Jones, Vidic, Buttner; Young, Fellaini, Fletcher, Kagawa; Mata, Rooney.
subs: Amos, Giggs, Chicharito, Carrick, Nani, Welbeck, Januzaj.
 
I think he wants to get fired and collect a tidy sum for doing absolutely fsckall.

Pretty sure there are performance related clauses, if he gets dismissed one of them will be triggered and he wont be due that much.
 
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