Ongoing Palestinian terror attacks against Israel.

Pitbull said:
And by all means that could be true.

They should just go full retard on each other and the victor takes all. Should solve all the issues...
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That's what I said! Let the two tough it out unabated, remove the media circus and other countries stay out of it. When the dust settles, see who is left and from that day forward they will rule over that piece of sandy land. Let's see whose God is strongest.
 
The status quo...its not working, the evidence is in plain sight.
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The status quo has been in place for the past 10/15 years if not more.

It's just hard to believe that both sides seem to think continuing the same thing will give a different result.
 
daveza said:
It's just hard to believe that both sides seem to think continuing the same thing will give a different result.
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The very definition of insanity.

Clearly, they need to try something different.
 
How is it insanity from the position of the Zionists? Seems they're just getting more land at the end of the day...
 
daveza said:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-finally-speaks-his-mind/
So contrary to the suggestion that if the Palestinians want peace all will be good, they could become pillars of society and still look forward to a life under the control of Israel.
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The Palestinians are behaving in exactly the way that he needs them to to justify his arguments.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/israels-benjamin-netanyahu-open-to-meeting-with-palestines-mahmoud-abbas-700955.html

You have Abbas stating that Israel is murdering children:
Mr Abbas said on Wednesday: “We will not give in to the logic of brute force and policies of occupation and aggression practised by the Israeli government and its herds of settlers who engage in terrorism against our people and our holy places and our homes and our trees, and the summary execution of our children in cold blood, as they did with the child Ahmed Manasra and other children in Jerusalem and other places.”
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When said "children" were involved in vicious attacks:
On Monday, Ahmed and his 15-year-old cousin Hassan stabbed and seriously wounded two Israelis, including a 13-year-old boy, in Jerusalem. Hassan was shot dead by police while Ahmed was struck by a car after the attack.
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Then they lie about it to further their agenda.
Israel’s Hadassah Hospital, which is treating the boy, issued a statement saying that “in stark contrast to circulating rumors,” he was stable and “fully conscious
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StevenC said:
That's what I said! Let the two tough it out unabated, remove the media circus and other countries stay out of it. When the dust settles, see who is left and from that day forward they will rule over that piece of sandy land. Let's see whose God is strongest.
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What you are saying is the equivalent of the US starting a colony in a country, then funding and growing that country for 100 years. After that you pit them against the indigenous people who have been oppressed since they arrived.

There is no question that Israel would kill all the people in Palestine. They only thing preventing them from doing so is that it would be 99% unarmed people getting systematically killed to clear out a territory where they were displaced from because the British promised the Zionists a place to colonize.
 
Well, that's just toughies for the Palestinians then. Allah clearly doesn't love them enough to protect them from the Jews.
 
Do Palestinians want peace?

They voted in Hamas who in their charter calls for the obliteration of all Jews.

Strange way of showing how much they want peace.
 
Vrotappel said:
Do Palestinians want peace?

They voted in Hamas who in their charter calls for the obliteration of all Jews.

Strange way of showing how much they want peace.
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The only other choice was the PA, which is seen as a bunch of Israeli collaborators by the Palestinians. Doesn't seem like much of a vote if you ask me.
 
Seriously said:
What about pro humanity for Israel?
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I was completely sided for Israel until I actually started watching documentaries from both sides. Especially the one I posted above (crash course world history). It paints Israel in a really good picture and even then you have to agree that the PEOPLE who lived there really (called Palestinians, who btw. are Christians, Muslims and Jews), really got f@#ked.

It didn't matter how many I watched. The theme was the same. Israeli documentaries always talked about the pain and suffering, the terror. While Palestinian videos actually showed it. I've literally seen people who I thought were extremists at first at the way they describe the way Israel treats them break down in tears because their family was destroyed (men crying in a way that leaves no dignity). Standing next to destroyed buildings and charred bodies.

I'm anti extremism and anti-violence of any kind. Using a military force like the IDF against civilians is a horrible atrocity.

I my mind the best way to resolve this is to dissolve the Zionist state and put a government in place that controls the entire region (West Bank + Israel) and no longer allows the Rabi's to interfere with the countries policies. Neither the current Zionist Israeli government nor the Islam Hamas "government" (which is really more like the ANC in apartheid, so hardly a "government") are fit to rule anyone.

Before Israel was established the entire Palestine was a area filled with many people and peaceful who spoke Arabic.

Then suddenly you have this new movement called Zionism that receives British help, establishes a new country and wants to eradicate everyone who isn't Jewish and doesn't speak Hebrew.
Out of that a hatred is born which is now what Hamas is which leans toward Islam.

This was never about religion. It was turned into that. It was simply a land grab orchestrated by Britain that saw one side get badly screwed and people displaced. Which continues today.

#JustSaying
 
Gnome said:
#JustSaying
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Long sad story.. Fact... even if Israel give the Palestinians full autonomy in their own state the Arabs and thus Palestinians will endeavour tp anhilate them. WILL NOT HAPPEN
as Israel knows it
 
Seriously said:
Long sad story.. [-]Fact[/-] Pulling stuff out of my ear... even if Israel give the Palestinians full autonomy in their own state the Arabs and thus Palestinians will endeavour tp anhilate them. WILL NOT HAPPEN
as Israel knows it
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FTFY
 
Gnome said:
I'm anti extremism and anti-violence of any kind. Using a military force like the IDF against civilians is a horrible atrocity.
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Good post and some fair points. While I agree that using the IDF against civilians is a terrible thing to do, wouldn't you agree that Hamas using them as human shields is just as bad, if not worse? These are the very people that they are fighting for! Meanwhile, all it accomplishes is another targeted airstrike where pregnant women's houses get blown up with them in it.

Unfortunately there is nothing that we say on this forum that will help the situation. It just plain sucks for all involved and these people will never know anything else but the cycle of hatred between 2 "religious" groups (it is mainly segregated down that line). Both sides are as guilty as the other, but it's too far gone to rescue any semblance of peace - only way that happens is if one faction vacates the area willingly or is wiped out.
 
Terrorist in Hebron shot and killed during attempted stabbing of Israeli
Incident happens near site of Friday attack in which a terrorist posed as a journalist.
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...bron-shot-after-trying-to-stab-Israeli-426212

During a stabbing attempt in Hebron on Saturday morning, the Israeli target of the attack shot and killed the terrorist. The Israeli was not wounded in the attempted attack.

The suspect approached a checkpoint in the city and tried to stab one of the security forces. When this attempt failed he came after an Israeli citizen who used his personal firearm to shoot and kill him.

On Friday, in the same area as the Saturday morning attack, a Palestinian assailant stabbed an IDF soldier in Hebron while posing as a reporter.

The stabbing incident occurred at Zayit Junction near Kiryat Arba. The terrorist was shot dead at the scene, while the soldier was moderately wounded.

During the incident, the terrorist approached the soldier wearing a "press" flak jacket and carrying a camera.

The attack came as Hamas called for a "day of rage" against Israel as two weeks of violence continued.
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