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Only if you intend making money, will you have to operate with a "Class ECNS" and "Class ECS" licence, since they are the only ones being allowed. R10k each. http://www.icasa.org.za/
One cannot obtain an "Individual ECNS" or "Individual ECS" licence anymore. Unless you buy someone's, at about R150k to R500k. There seems to be a moratorium placed on them at the moment. http://www.info.gov.za/speeches/2009/09062316251002.htm
Although, you can, as a NPO/Section21, launch with a licence exemption, which is free.
http://www.ellipsis.co.za/licence-exemption-regulations/ The max fine is R30k then, instead of R1million. You must still conform to consumer regulations, which carry fines of their own.
For WISP operations one needs to get 3 separate licences. http://www.ellipsis.co.za/wapa-regulatory-guide-to-starting-a-wisp/
I feel your best bet to launch with, will be a ECNS and ECS Licence Exemption. http://www.ellipsis.co.za/wp-content...ugust-2008.pdf
You will still require the frequency licence/s.
One cannot obtain an "Individual ECNS" or "Individual ECS" licence anymore. Unless you buy someone's, at about R150k to R500k. There seems to be a moratorium placed on them at the moment. http://www.info.gov.za/speeches/2009/09062316251002.htm
Although, you can, as a NPO/Section21, launch with a licence exemption, which is free.
http://www.ellipsis.co.za/licence-exemption-regulations/ The max fine is R30k then, instead of R1million. You must still conform to consumer regulations, which carry fines of their own.For WISP operations one needs to get 3 separate licences. http://www.ellipsis.co.za/wapa-regulatory-guide-to-starting-a-wisp/
I feel your best bet to launch with, will be a ECNS and ECS Licence Exemption. http://www.ellipsis.co.za/wp-content...ugust-2008.pdf
You will still require the frequency licence/s.
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thank you. Now I know.
Luckily I'm not breaking the law at the moment? Right?
Today I tried to intercept gsm signals.
Expect to read about me on my mybroadband news (if I succeed - not too far away).
At the moment I can see IMSI's and locations. Interception of SMS's tomorrow.. To intercept calls may be too difficult for me to achieve. but not for a super computer...
maybe I'm just talking nonsense...
Luckily I'm not breaking the law at the moment? Right?
Today I tried to intercept gsm signals.
Expect to read about me on my mybroadband news (if I succeed - not too far away).
At the moment I can see IMSI's and locations. Interception of SMS's tomorrow..
To intercept calls may be too difficult for me to achieve. but not for a super computer... maybe I'm just talking nonsense...
tco21
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If you aren't sure about your legal standing, you can always contact these people:
http://www.michalsonsattorneys.com
They specialise in IT law. But as far as I can tell it's legit.
http://www.michalsonsattorneys.com
They specialise in IT law. But as far as I can tell it's legit.
SteveO
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Yes, if i were you i would find out about licences to spectrum etc.
if any of the spectrum owners find you have caused uneccessary interference on their systems/networks you can be liable for any loss of income as well as a huge fine.
well atleast this is what i was told about an incident between two licencees a few years ago.
if any of the spectrum owners find you have caused uneccessary interference on their systems/networks you can be liable for any loss of income as well as a huge fine.
well atleast this is what i was told about an incident between two licencees a few years ago.
tco21
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Doubt there'd be interference on such a small scale?
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You can do it yourself. Just take it step by step.
Join the WUGS http://www.wug.za.net/index.php
Your idea and their idea to negate the LLU problem, will work wonders. Then you just add the repeaters for your equipment, to all the high sites. If it won't interfere with each other. Perhaps it can even be integrated with existing equipment.
The last step would be for the WUGS to link into www.teraco.co.za
No more need for telkom.
Join the WUGS http://www.wug.za.net/index.php
Your idea and their idea to negate the LLU problem, will work wonders. Then you just add the repeaters for your equipment, to all the high sites. If it won't interfere with each other. Perhaps it can even be integrated with existing equipment.
The last step would be for the WUGS to link into www.teraco.co.za
No more need for telkom.
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Very interesting read!
Any cellphone operator will gladly make u a slave for R5 million. Please dont settle for less than R500 million.
You have a multi million rand idea in your hands if you can make your ideas and system perfect.
PM - we can talk
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OpenBTS website just updated 20 Sep with David Burgess from OpenBTS visit to Burning Man Festival.
Fascinating reading and local thread, thanks floyd for the feedback.
OpenBTS Blog about the Burning Man Festival experience
An article on CNet about the technology competitor cellular provider and the OpenBTS project
The OpenBTS project will be like Mark Spencers Asterisk PBX project driving down costs for open telephony.
Howto provide cellular coverage with OpenBTS using call forward
Interesting FAQ on the kit used at Burning Man 2009
Fascinating reading and local thread, thanks floyd for the feedback.
OpenBTS Blog about the Burning Man Festival experience
An article on CNet about the technology competitor cellular provider and the OpenBTS project
The OpenBTS project will be like Mark Spencers Asterisk PBX project driving down costs for open telephony.
Howto provide cellular coverage with OpenBTS using call forward
Interesting FAQ on the kit used at Burning Man 2009
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tco21
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Any updates?
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Latest release is 2.4.1
http://gnuradio.org/trac/wiki/OpenBTS/Releases
David presentation at Astricon
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This sounds great. How much does ICASA charge for 900mhz licence/spectrum? Where in SA would you buy the necessary equipment, for 10000 clients? 5Km radius. The cheapest equipment.
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PM Floyd at Univ of Stellenbosh, he has a test site up and running at his res
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Floyd, it sounds to me that you're a "Steve Wozniak" type of person. You're going to need a "Jobs" partner to make this work. I think someone from the WUG-area (as already mentioned) would be perfect to assist you (or point you in the right direction) in rolling this out, I'm sure they had to deal with ICASA and friends when they started.
Perhaps the Apple analogy isn't perfect as I know you don't want to make a huge profit, but otherwise it applies quite well, IMHO anyway.
Good luck!
Perhaps the Apple analogy isn't perfect as I know you don't want to make a huge profit, but otherwise it applies quite well, IMHO anyway.
Good luck!
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