satanboy
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Why do cement floors have to do with the price of eggs? Carpet his cell then.
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Oscar Pistorius: The Sentence
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Why do cement floors have to do with the price of eggs? Carpet his cell then.
from the pics that were posted all over the internet, compliments of the waterkloof four, it would seem that these prisoners get treated quite decently. they may not have a hotel suite for a cell, but they certainly don't look worse for the wear while serving their prison sentence.
Arthur
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There should be a diffs. Awaiting trial prisoners haven't yet been found guilty of an offence and sentenced. They are presumed innocent and so their incarceration cannot be punitive.
It's a different matter once convicted and sentenced.
It's a different matter once convicted and sentenced.
MagicDude4Eva
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I have only managed to pick up bits and pieces here and there, but I read that the Steenkamps got a 6k allowance for a period of time from OP and they needed money. This made no sense to me, as I heard, that the Steenkamps sold interview time to international newspapers and managed to get so much cash in that the father bought himself a pub in another town. Sounds a bit shallow then to all of a sudden call it "blood-money", considering at least to me, 6k would not go very far per month.
MickeyD
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She did!!!
To accept money initially and then later say no to it and then calling it blood money is indeed a bit off.
MagicDude4Eva
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On another note: Let's assume OP get's house-arrest, how can correctional services make sure that his ankle-bracelet goes with him?
Arthur
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I'm not up to speed on these things ... is there such a thing as house arrest in SA?
daveza
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Arthur
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Thanks, Dave. Nice to learn something new.
daveza
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:erm:
Nerfherder
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Does it come with a blowjob?
You're welcome.
techead
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Anyone know if this morning will be live on YouTube?
Noseworthy
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it always is
LazyLion
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OSCAR ARRIVES FOR THIRD DAY
Culpable homicide-convicted paralympian Oscar Pistorius arrived at the High Court in Pretoria on Wednesday for the third day of his sentencing proceedings.
He walked briskly to the entrance of the court, followed by four female police officers. He carried a black folder.
Camera people and two photographers took pictures and filmed him as he entered the court room.
Prosecutor Gerrie Nel is expected to continue the cross-examination of social worker Annette Vergeer on Wednesday.
Vergeer, who is also a probation officer, began presenting her report on Pistorius on Tuesday.
In the report, which the defence paid her to compile, she recommended that Pistorius -- who has been convicted of culpable homicide for the shooting of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp - be sentenced to three years of correctional supervision and community service.
During cross-examination, Vergeer said she did not believe that the double amputee would be safe or provided with the right facilities for his disability in prison.
"They cannot eliminate his vulnerability and they cannot secure his safety," she told the court.
On September 12, Masipa found the paralympian not guilty of murdering Steenkamp in his Pretoria townhouse on Valentine's Day last year, but convicted him of culpable homicide.
Pistorius has maintained throughout that he shot Steenkamp through the locked door of the toilet, thinking she was an intruder about to emerge and attack him.
Judge Thokozile Masipa also found Pistorius guilty of discharging a firearm in public during an incident at a Johannesburg restaurant.
Source : Sapa /aa/th
Date : 15 Oct 2014 08:46
Culpable homicide-convicted paralympian Oscar Pistorius arrived at the High Court in Pretoria on Wednesday for the third day of his sentencing proceedings.
He walked briskly to the entrance of the court, followed by four female police officers. He carried a black folder.
Camera people and two photographers took pictures and filmed him as he entered the court room.
Prosecutor Gerrie Nel is expected to continue the cross-examination of social worker Annette Vergeer on Wednesday.
Vergeer, who is also a probation officer, began presenting her report on Pistorius on Tuesday.
In the report, which the defence paid her to compile, she recommended that Pistorius -- who has been convicted of culpable homicide for the shooting of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp - be sentenced to three years of correctional supervision and community service.
During cross-examination, Vergeer said she did not believe that the double amputee would be safe or provided with the right facilities for his disability in prison.
"They cannot eliminate his vulnerability and they cannot secure his safety," she told the court.
On September 12, Masipa found the paralympian not guilty of murdering Steenkamp in his Pretoria townhouse on Valentine's Day last year, but convicted him of culpable homicide.
Pistorius has maintained throughout that he shot Steenkamp through the locked door of the toilet, thinking she was an intruder about to emerge and attack him.
Judge Thokozile Masipa also found Pistorius guilty of discharging a firearm in public during an incident at a Johannesburg restaurant.
Source : Sapa /aa/th
Date : 15 Oct 2014 08:46
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Gerrie is a ********
Noseworthy
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why you saying that?
LazyLion
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STEENKAMPS SUPRISED BY PAYMENTS DISCLOSURE
Reeva Steenkamp's parents and their lawyer on Wednesday said they were surprised that a confidential agreement was disclosed in the High Court in Pretoria during paralympian Oscar Pistorius's sentencing.
"We were... quite surprised yesterday when this fact was disclosed in court without any prior warning to us," PJ de Bruyn SC, for the Steenkamps, said in a statement.
"The fact that the matter had been kept confidential at the request of Mr Pistorius's legal advisers, has also not been placed on record."
De Bruyn said Steenkamps parents, June and Barry Steenkamp, were in financial difficulties after their daughter was shot dead at Pistorius's home in February last year.
"This was mentioned to Mr Pistorius's lawyers during discussions in regard to a possible civil claim by the parents," he said.
"We were contacted soon afterwards by Mr Pistorius's lawyers with an offer that Mr Pistorius would contribute an amount of R6000 per month towards the parents' rental and living expenses."
De Bruyn said payments took place from March last year until September this year.
"When the offer was made during March 2013, we, on behalf of the parents, thought that it would only be fair to Mr Pistorius that the public should know this.
"The request of Mr Pistorius, conveyed through his lawyers, however was that the matter be kept confidential. We have honoured this request."
De Bruyn said the Steenkamps intended to repay the amount to Pistorius as soon as arrangements can be made.
De Bruyn went on to explain that the Steenkamps were "emotionally suffering quite badly" and that an early settlement was considered to be appropriate in order for them to get "some closure" and to avoid a lengthy civil case.
"It was for this reason that we approached Mr Pistorius's legal advisers with a request as to whether the matter could not be settled," he said.
"At that stage the parents were not aware of our approaches and discussions between the legal teams were confidential. The offer of settlement was then made by Mr Pistorius."
De Bruyn said when the Steenkamps were made aware of the offer, they considered it carefully but decided for various reasons that they did not want any payment from Pistorius.
"We place this on record to make it clear that a request for an offer emanated from our side, and not from Mr Pistorius's side. He was responding to our request as to whether the civil claim could not be settled," he said.
On Tuesday, Pistorius family spokeswoman Anneliese Burgess said the State's version on payments made by Pistorius to the Steenkamps was not accurate.
"The defence team will give a statement to the court tomorrow regarding the accurate position."
Burgess did not provide more details.
The court heard on Tuesday that June Steenkamp rejected a R375,000 payment from the paralympian as "blood money", in a submission by prosecutor advocate Gerrie Nel.
On September 12, Pistorius was convicted of culpable homicide for the shooting of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp in his Pretoria townhouse.
The court found him not guilty of murdering Steenkamp.
Pistorius shot Steenkamp through the locked door of the toilet, apparently thinking she was an intruder about to emerge and attack him. She was hit in the hip, arm, and head.
Pistorius was also found guilty of firing a pistol under a table at Tasha's restaurant in Johannesburg in January 2013 and not guilty of shooting through the open sunroof of a car in Modderfontein on September 30, 2012.
Source : Sapa /mar/jje
Date : 15 Oct 2014 09:46
Reeva Steenkamp's parents and their lawyer on Wednesday said they were surprised that a confidential agreement was disclosed in the High Court in Pretoria during paralympian Oscar Pistorius's sentencing.
"We were... quite surprised yesterday when this fact was disclosed in court without any prior warning to us," PJ de Bruyn SC, for the Steenkamps, said in a statement.
"The fact that the matter had been kept confidential at the request of Mr Pistorius's legal advisers, has also not been placed on record."
De Bruyn said Steenkamps parents, June and Barry Steenkamp, were in financial difficulties after their daughter was shot dead at Pistorius's home in February last year.
"This was mentioned to Mr Pistorius's lawyers during discussions in regard to a possible civil claim by the parents," he said.
"We were contacted soon afterwards by Mr Pistorius's lawyers with an offer that Mr Pistorius would contribute an amount of R6000 per month towards the parents' rental and living expenses."
De Bruyn said payments took place from March last year until September this year.
"When the offer was made during March 2013, we, on behalf of the parents, thought that it would only be fair to Mr Pistorius that the public should know this.
"The request of Mr Pistorius, conveyed through his lawyers, however was that the matter be kept confidential. We have honoured this request."
De Bruyn said the Steenkamps intended to repay the amount to Pistorius as soon as arrangements can be made.
De Bruyn went on to explain that the Steenkamps were "emotionally suffering quite badly" and that an early settlement was considered to be appropriate in order for them to get "some closure" and to avoid a lengthy civil case.
"It was for this reason that we approached Mr Pistorius's legal advisers with a request as to whether the matter could not be settled," he said.
"At that stage the parents were not aware of our approaches and discussions between the legal teams were confidential. The offer of settlement was then made by Mr Pistorius."
De Bruyn said when the Steenkamps were made aware of the offer, they considered it carefully but decided for various reasons that they did not want any payment from Pistorius.
"We place this on record to make it clear that a request for an offer emanated from our side, and not from Mr Pistorius's side. He was responding to our request as to whether the civil claim could not be settled," he said.
On Tuesday, Pistorius family spokeswoman Anneliese Burgess said the State's version on payments made by Pistorius to the Steenkamps was not accurate.
"The defence team will give a statement to the court tomorrow regarding the accurate position."
Burgess did not provide more details.
The court heard on Tuesday that June Steenkamp rejected a R375,000 payment from the paralympian as "blood money", in a submission by prosecutor advocate Gerrie Nel.
On September 12, Pistorius was convicted of culpable homicide for the shooting of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp in his Pretoria townhouse.
The court found him not guilty of murdering Steenkamp.
Pistorius shot Steenkamp through the locked door of the toilet, apparently thinking she was an intruder about to emerge and attack him. She was hit in the hip, arm, and head.
Pistorius was also found guilty of firing a pistol under a table at Tasha's restaurant in Johannesburg in January 2013 and not guilty of shooting through the open sunroof of a car in Modderfontein on September 30, 2012.
Source : Sapa /mar/jje
Date : 15 Oct 2014 09:46
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