Parents complain Wi-Fi is making students sick

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TORONTO — A group of central Ontario parents is demanding their children's schools turn off wireless Internet before they head back to school next month, fearing the technology is making the kids sick.

Some parents in the Barrie, Ont., area say their children are showing a host of symptoms ranging from headaches and dizziness to nausea and even racing heart rates.

They believe the Wi-Fi setup in their kids' elementary schools may be the problem.

The parents complain they can't get the Simcoe County school board or anyone else to take their concerns seriously, even though the children's symptoms all disappear on weekends when they aren't in school.

"Parents are getting together and realizing this is the pattern," said Rodney Palmer of the Simcoe County Safe School Committee.

"We went to the school board and they did nothing."

The symptoms, which also include memory loss, trouble concentrating, skin rashes, hyperactivity, night sweats and insomnia, have been reported in 14 Ontario schools in Barrie, Bradford, Collingwood, Orillia and Wasaga Beach since the board decided to go wireless, said Palmer.

"These kids are getting sick at school but not at home," he said.

"I'm not saying it's because of the Wi-Fi because we don't know yet, but I've pretty much eliminated every other possible source."

The Simcoe County school board could not be reached for comment Friday as their offices were closed.

The group offered to pay for wired connections if the board would switch off the Wi-Fi, Palmer said.

"They didn't even say no. They ignored it and ... reaffirmed their position supporting Wi-Fi," he said.

"They are culpable and ... they have the gall to go on the record and say they haven't had any doctors' notes. Well what doctor has been schooled about the rate of microwave infections?"

Susan Clarke, a former research consultant to the Harvard School of Public Health, said Wi-Fi technology alters fundamental physiological functioning and can cause neurological and cardiac symptoms.

"We have statistics that show that children, especially young children, are going to absorb much more radiation than older children and adults because of their thinner skulls and because the size of their brains more closely approximates the size of the wave length being deployed," said Clarke.

Wireless technology also wastes energy, is less secure than wired connections, could be violating students' right to a safe environment, and should be turned off in schools, Clarke added.

"The simple solution is plug back in the wired, ported system that's already there and unplug the wireless," she said.

"It's real easy and it costs nothing. In fact, it will save money."

Professor Magda Havas of Trent University in Peterborough, Ont., who does research on the health effects of electromagnetic radiation, issued an open letter to parents and boards saying she is "increasingly concerned" about Wi-Fi and cellphone use at schools.

Claims by Health Canada that Wi-Fi is safe provided exposures to radiation are below federal guidelines is "outdated and incorrect" based on the growing number of scientific publications reporting adverse health and biological effects, wrote Havas.

"It is irresponsible to introduce Wi-Fi microwave radiation into a school environment where young children and school employees spend hours each day."

The Ontario Ministry of Education said it had heard from the parents in Simcoe county, and had a complaint passed along from a Peterborough family worried about Wi-Fi in schools, but said it was up to local school boards to deal with the issue.

"The boards, the principals and the teachers should work together to address those concerns," said ministry spokeswoman Erin Moroz.

The provincial New Democrats said they too had been hearing from parents worried about the effects of wireless technology on children, and called on the chief medical officer of health to investigate.

"Within a few months of Wi-Fi being installed, stories start coming forward with kids complaining about headaches, neurological effects, loss of balance and problems with fine motor skills," said NDP health critic France Gelinas.

"There is enough anecdotal evidence from parents that this is worth looking into."

Palmer plans to find alternate schools or even home school his two children this fall if the board doesn't agree to turn off the Wi-Fi, and said other parents will likely follow suit if the symptoms return.

"If they're going to continue to endanger the health of children, I can predict that many of the parents who are now writing us saying their kids have been fine all summer are going to have a change of heart about the third week of September when their kids are coming home from school with these problems, particularly the ones that are passing out and falling down, hitting their head on the gym floor," he said.

While parents worry about younger children, concerns about the health effects of wireless technology prompted Lakehead University to virtually ban Wi-Fi from its campuses in Thunder Bay, Ont., and Orillia, Ont.

"There will be no Wi-Fi connectivity provided in those areas of the university already served by hard wire connectivity until such time as the potential health effects have been scientifically rebutted or there are adequate protective measures that can be taken," states Lakehead's policy on Wi-Fi and cellular antennae.

I found this interesting because of the similarity to our own iBurst scandal with the tower that is making everyone sick. Seems like other people around the world are also complaining of the symptoms. So is this just mass hysteria or do they have a legitimate complaint?
 
Banning Wi-Fi from Schools

Here is a blog which discusses the whole trend...

In the town just north of where I live the middle school was completely torn down and an entirely new middle school was built. The reason for this was concerns that mold in the old school was making children sick.

Apparently, Wi-Fi is the new mold. In central Ontario parents are lobbying the school to turn off the Wi-Fi due to fears that it is making their children sick. You can take the news report of the parents concerns, time-warp about ten years in the past, and substitute “mold” for “Wi-Fi” – the arguments are the same, and the evidence as weak, but the identified problem has just shifted.

The Evidence

Let’s start by reviewing what we currently know about the health risks of Wi-Fi – wireless signals used to connect computers to a network or the internet. From a basic science perspective, there is little plausibility to the notion that Wi-Fi radiation would have any health effects. The amount of energy that is absorbed by a person living in a Wi-Fi field is negligible - less than 1% of exposure from a typical cell phone and well below current safety levels.

I have written about the risk from cell phones recently also. To summarize, there is no compelling evidence at this time that there is a health risk. The evidence so far seems to rule out any significant risk for adults with up to 10-15 years of exposure, but not yet for children or for >15 years exposure. In short, if there is any adverse health effect it must be tiny to be so difficult to detect – and Wi-Fi causes only 1% of the energy exposure as cell phones.

Further, the hypothesized risks of non-ionizing radiation (insufficient energy to break chemical bonds) is considered by many to lack plausibility due to the fact that so little energy is transferred to tissue.For non-ionizing radiation, regulations have focused on the thermal effects – heating tissue – which can occur depending upon the specific frequencies used and how easily it is coupled or transferred to tissues. This is the same effect exploited by microwaves (a form of non-ionizing radiation) to heat food.

The current regulations are largely based upon the thermal effects of EMF exposures – exposures are low enough to prevent significant heating of tissues. Some argue that this is not enough, however, and that there may be non-thermal biological effects, and therefore safety limits should be lowered.

While I agree with those who argue that a significant non-ionizing, non-thermal effect is unproven and implausible, a biological effect is not impossible, and so epidemiological and clinical studies are reasonable. The first question is simply – what is the exposure from Wi-Fi networks? Such exposures to EMF are typically thousands of times less than current safety limits. In fact, one review found:

In all cases, the measured Wi-Fi signal levels were very far below international exposure limits (IEEE C95.1-2005 and ICNIRP) and in nearly all cases far below other RF signals in the same environments.

So not only are exposures from Wi-Fi access points thousands of times less than safety limits, they are also less than the background radio frequency (RF) radiation.

Is there evidence for biological effects on cells? An extensive review of this research concluded:

Overall, there is little evidence of cellular effects of RF fields of health significance below current safety limits.

While they argue for further research in some areas, they were also including cell-phone level exposure, which remember is 100 times that of Wi-Fi, which in turn is no higher than background radiation.

What about electromagnetic hypersensitivity – the reporting of common non-specific symptoms, such as headache, fatigue, dizziness, and confusion, while being exposed to EMF? Well, the same review also summarizes this research, which finds that under blinded conditions there is no such hypersensitivity syndrome. Even with people who consistently report symptoms with exposure to EMF, in blinded conditions they cannot reliably tell if they are being exposed to EMF.

Wi-Fi in Schools

With the research as background, let’s take a look at the current Wi-Fi in school hubbub. News reports indicate:

Some parents in the Barrie, Ont., area say their children are showing a host of symptoms ranging from headaches and dizziness to nausea and even racing heart rates.

The symptoms, which also include memory loss, trouble concentrating, skin rashes, hyperactivity, night sweats and insomnia, have been reported in 14 Ontario schools in Barrie, Bradford, Collingwood, Orillia and Wasaga Beach since the board decided to go wireless, said Palmer.

That is a familiar list of symptoms – non-specific, common and subjective. They are similar to the symptoms that people previously blamed on mold in schools. (But it should be noted that the analogy to mold is not perfect as there is evidence to support the conclusion that some people have a genuine mold allergy, and developed real allergic symptoms to measurable exposures to mold. At the same time, there are those with non-specific symptoms who blame it on mold as the available explanation.)

How do parents know their children are having symptoms secondary to Wi-Fi?

“These kids are getting sick at school but not at home,” he said.

“I’m not saying it’s because of the Wi-Fi because we don’t know yet, but I’ve pretty much eliminated every other possible source.”

I doubt “every other possible source” has been adequately eliminated. That is tough to do for environmental exposures. Further, it should first be determined if there is an actual medical phenomenon, before explanations are sought. One of the primary sources of disconnect between medical professionals and the public is that professionals know from history of published evidence that people can exhibit symptoms without there being a specific physical cause, while the public remains largely unconvinced of this fact. As stated above, even those who had dramatic and consistent symptoms to EMF could not reproduce them under blinded conditions.

Further, the parents are more compelled than they should be at the timing of the symptoms. It should not be that much of a surprise that students are exhibiting non-specific symptoms at school but not home. Stress alone is a sufficient explanation, but there may be others. For example, many students go to school sleep-deprived because they are staying up too late. This is not an issue on weekends and over the summer. Sleep deprivation is a good explanation for most of the symptoms being reported.

There likely is no one answer to what the children are reporting. Once a community has identified a culprit, then many people with non-specific symptoms from any cause are likely to latch onto the available explanation for their symptoms.

Conclusion

Often these issues are framed as a debate over what level of safety is appropriate. There always seems to be those arguing for “zero” risk, or an absolute guarantee of safety. Absolute safety does not exist in our world and is not a reasonable goal. Even with this extreme position aside, it is always easy to argue for greater safety limits than are currently in place. It may always seem reasonable to say that we should err on the side of safety, or wait for further research.

But I do not think this is always the reasonable position. It makes more sense to consider risk vs benefit. In the case of Wi-Fi we have very low biological plausibility given the low levels of exposure, a 1000 fold safety margin with current regulations, no compelling evidence from cell studies of a biological effect, and no clinical evidence of a real health effect.

Meanwhile, convenient internet connectivity is increasingly a vital aspect of our modern lives – certainly in the context of education.

I wonder if those parents arguing against Wi-Fi in the schools, based upon vague anecdotal evidence in the face of low scientific plausibility and lack of evidence of risk, use cell phones. Do they drive, use power tools, have a swimming pool, or snow ski? There are probably hundreds of things we take for granted in our daily lives that have greater risks than Wi-Fi.

These news stories also highlight the need for greater public education in critical thinking. These parents mean well, they are just falling victim to poor critical thinking skills. The news report also indicates that the school board has been largely ignoring them, which is not a good strategy. Professionals and regulators also need to learn how to deal with the public over such issues.

What we have here are the seeds of yet another grassroots movement that is disconnected from science and hostile to authority. This is a scenario we have seen played out many times before, and no doubt we will see it many times again.

http://skepticblog.org/2010/08/16/banning-wi-fi-from-schools/
 
Nice evaluation.

The symptoms, which also include memory loss, trouble concentrating, skin rashes, hyperactivity, night sweats and insomnia, have been reported in 14 Ontario schools in Barrie, Bradford, Collingwood, Orillia and Wasaga Beach since the board decided to go wireless, said Palmer.

"These kids are getting sick at school but not at home," he said.
I also used to get "sick" during school time, never during holidays or weekends ;)
 
The kids are obviously just getting stressed from school and feeling bad about going to school, the over-protective mothers just make it sound bad. The idea that it started when the Wi-Fi got installed is probably something psychosomatic.
 
IMHO it's sleep deprivation during the week - the kids go to bed too late.

On weekends they sleep late so it doesn't matter.
 
Quite easy to (dis)prove the claims. Switch off Wi-Fi for a week without telling the parents or children. If the symptoms persist, it's not the Wi-Fi.
 
I suspect half those symtoms (if not all) could probably be attributable to diet, outside of parental supervision the kids could be going moggy on suger and caffeine and other junk.
 
Quite easy to (dis)prove the claims. Switch off Wi-Fi for a week without telling the parents or children. If the symptoms persist, it's not the Wi-Fi.

Or tell the parents and children you've switched it off and unplugged it, but leave it on and watch how their symptoms disappear.
 
I have WiFi on 24/7 at home and at university I am mostly within range of a couple Wi-Fi networks.
Many places like shops and other businesses also use Wi-Fi, it's pretty much impossible to escape. Just sounds like some dumbass parents.

I'd also get sick more often at school than at home, I think it's mostly from lack of sleep. Easy to suffer from lack of sleep when you have to wake up early in the morning by a specific time.
 
Or tell the parents and children you've switched it off and unplugged it, but leave it on and watch how their symptoms disappear.

I once read about a dude that did that at university. The cleaning staff were complaining that the wifi signals from the routers in the science faculty were causing all sort of symptoms. The dude deactivated all the wireless components in the router but made it keep all the lights on so the cleaning staff couldn't tell the difference. They kept reporting the symptoms and complaining and when they did that after a while he told them he had turned off the wifi and they hadn't been exposed for ages. They refused to accept that and insisted wifi signals caused the symptoms... he had to remove the routers anyway. LOL

I live with wifi routers around me all day. As I type this there are 4 wifi networks within range. It hasn't influenced me -OH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEEEEEEEEEE- at all.
 
Well it seems obvious that wifi affects some people and not others (well not yet!)... It really is high time that more attention is paid to this instead of ridiculing these people.

Interesting links:

Public Health SOS: The Shadow Side Of The Wireless Revolution

"Product Description
Electromagnetic factors in health is an emerging public health issue globally, creating electrical sensitivity and being linked to illnesses of many kinds. Read this primer on EMF and health by Prof. Magda Havas of Canada and environmental activist and management consultant to change agents, Camilla Rees, founder of www.ElectromagneticHealth.org. Learn what the independent science shows, what you can do to create electromagnetic safety and how you can help get Congress to pay attention to this important issue affecting humans, animals and nature. This book resulted from 110 Questions asked of the audience at The Commonwealth Club of California in 2008, the nations leading public affairs forum.
About the Author

Camilla Rees is a health and environmental activist, management consultant and radio host on KGNU on the Green Economy. After a career in investment banking, venture capital and marketing communications, Ms. Rees now is dedicated to serving the transformation of health care so that it better meets patient needs and to raising awareness of hidden, unacknowledged drivers of health care costs. Dr. Magda Havas, PhD is Assoc. Professor of Environmental & Resource Studies at Trent University in Canada and an internationally recognized expert in the biological effects of environmental contaminants, including radiofrequency radiation, electromagnetic fields, dirty electricity and ground current. "

(ps: I'm especially interested in Dr Magda's work with "Type 3 Diabetes (as she terms it) - EMF induced high blood sugar")

Dirty Electricity: Electrification and the Diseases of Civilization

"Product Description
When Thomas Edison began wiring New York City with a direct current electricity distribution system in the 1880s, he gave humankind the magic of electric light, heat, and power; in the process, though, he inadvertently opened a Pandora's Box of unimaginable illness and death.

Dirty Electricity tells the story of Dr. Samuel Milham, the scientist who first alerted the world about the frightening link between occupational exposure to electromagnetic fields and human disease. Milham takes readers through his early years and education, following the twisting path that led to his discovery that most of the twentieth century diseases of civilization, including cancer, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and suicide, are caused by electromagnetic field exposure.

Dr. Milham warns that because of the recent proliferation of radio frequency radiation from cell phones and towers, terrestrial antennas, Wi-Fi and Wi-max systems, broadband internet over power lines, and personal electronic equipment, we may be facing a looming epidemic of morbidity and mortality. In Dirty Electricity, he reveals the steps we must take, personally and as a society, to coexist with this marvelous but dangerous technology. "
 
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So not only are exposures from Wi-Fi access points thousands of times less than safety limits, they are also less than the background radio frequency (RF) radiation.

That pretty much settles it for me. You are more likely to be made sick from the normal everyday radiation from the Sun and Cosmic Radiation... than from one of these signals. :D

People will find any old excuse.
 
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I found this interesting because of the similarity to our own iBurst scandal with the tower that is making everyone sick. Seems like other people around the world are also complaining of the symptoms. So is this just mass hysteria or do they have a legitimate complaint?

That was the one where people were complaining despite not realising that the tower was actually off?
 
Who remembers Tube-TV's radiation being a cancer causing agent? who remembers the complaints about microwave ovens killing people?

No-one complains about the 200Megawatt transmitter that broadcasts TV signals.
 
That was the one where people were complaining despite not realising that the tower was actually off?

Thats exactly the same report :D .. iburst told the people that the tower will be off for 2 weeks and on for 2 weeks.. and then they done the opposite. People reported feeling 'Better' while it was on, and got 'sick' while it was off
 
Who remembers Tube-TV's radiation being a cancer causing agent? who remembers the complaints about microwave ovens killing people?

No-one complains about the 200Megawatt transmitter that broadcasts TV signals.

LOL disable the safety catch on the microwave and stick your head in it for a while when it is running and lets see what happens to you.

Either that or unplug it from the wall and go beat someone over the head with it.

I know what you meant but still microwaves can definitely kill people.
 
Thats exactly the same report :D .. iburst told the people that the tower will be off for 2 weeks and on for 2 weeks.. and then they done the opposite. People reported feeling 'Better' while it was on, and got 'sick' while it was off

Then it suddenly became a compliance issue rather than a health one.
 
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