PC > Mac (and visa versa)

SlinkyMike

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Then you haven't tried it or achieved it? You actually don't know how difficult it is to do?

People come here to ask advice I absolutely can't stand those individuals who tell you to "go Google it". If that's your answer then please refrain from posting.

Firstly: allow me to apologise for chafing your raw nerve. I don't tend to consider your personal feelings when posting, that will not change soon.

Secondly: you are quite correct - people do come here for advice. If the advice they seek is readily available elsewhere then the forums advice should be to point out said advice.

You see: I 'absolutely can't stand' those who ask questions without even considering the possibility of finding the answer themselves.
Such individuals are intellectual sloths and we do them a disservice by scurrying about the webs compiling lists of link for them... honestly, whats next? "Now point the little arrow over those blue words... ok, done? Now sit tight while I shoot over and depress the leftmost button on your mouse for you."

Sometimes not helping is the best help one could give. What happens when some such offender needs help and *gasp* you are not online to provide it? Hmmm?

It is quite another thing when someone posts stating that they have exhausted all of the search terms they could come up with and has anyone any experience with x problem... But when someone posts stating that they are ignorant of x (the Macintosh in this case); are suffering under an antiquated tidbit of misinformation; could not care to educate themselves and require an answer from the forum at large then they can get stuffed, sarcasm is a mild backlash for these particular cretins. They are taking up time and energy that could be directed at your precious people who come here to ask advice for things that are not trivial.

...quite. ;)
 

syntax

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Firstly: allow me to apologise for chafing your raw nerve. I don't tend to consider your personal feelings when posting, that will not change soon.

Secondly: you are quite correct - people do come here for advice. If the advice they seek is readily available elsewhere then the forums advice should be to point out said advice.

You see: I 'absolutely can't stand' those who ask questions without even considering the possibility of finding the answer themselves.
Such individuals are intellectual sloths and we do them a disservice by scurrying about the webs compiling lists of link for them... honestly, whats next? "Now point the little arrow over those blue words... ok, done? Now sit tight while I shoot over and depress the leftmost button on your mouse for you."

Sometimes not helping is the best help one could give. What happens when some such offender needs help and *gasp* you are not online to provide it? Hmmm?

It is quite another thing when someone posts stating that they have exhausted all of the search terms they could come up with and has anyone any experience with x problem... But when someone posts stating that they are ignorant of x (the Macintosh in this case); are suffering under an antiquated tidbit of misinformation; could not care to educate themselves and require an answer from the forum at large then they can get stuffed, sarcasm is a mild backlash for these particular cretins. They are taking up time and energy that could be directed at your precious people who come here to ask advice for things that are not trivial.


...quite. ;)

great post
 

Synaesthesia

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Whatever. I thought it was a valid question.

The solution was either network or use an external hard drive. There, done.

Some of the answers were really crap and unhelpful. If you don't feel like answering it then don't answer. Mac OS X can read NTFS out of the box, and he's moving from a PC to a Mac so no issue there. I don't know why NFS+ was brought up? Also the Mac vs. PC posts as usual ... Go away people!
 

VertigoZA

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Firstly: allow me to apologise for chafing your raw nerve. I don't tend to consider your personal feelings when posting, that will not change soon.

Secondly: you are quite correct - people do come here for advice. If the advice they seek is readily available elsewhere then the forums advice should be to point out said advice.

You see: I 'absolutely can't stand' those who ask questions without even considering the possibility of finding the answer themselves.
Such individuals are intellectual sloths and we do them a disservice by scurrying about the webs compiling lists of link for them... honestly, whats next? "Now point the little arrow over those blue words... ok, done? Now sit tight while I shoot over and depress the leftmost button on your mouse for you."

Sometimes not helping is the best help one could give. What happens when some such offender needs help and *gasp* you are not online to provide it? Hmmm?

It is quite another thing when someone posts stating that they have exhausted all of the search terms they could come up with and has anyone any experience with x problem... But when someone posts stating that they are ignorant of x (the Macintosh in this case); are suffering under an antiquated tidbit of misinformation; could not care to educate themselves and require an answer from the forum at large then they can get stuffed, sarcasm is a mild backlash for these particular cretins. They are taking up time and energy that could be directed at your precious people who come here to ask advice for things that are not trivial.


...quite. ;)

agreed.
 

semiautomatix

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Firstly: allow me to apologise for chafing your raw nerve. I don't tend to consider your personal feelings when posting, that will not change soon.

Secondly: you are quite correct - people do come here for advice. If the advice they seek is readily available elsewhere then the forums advice should be to point out said advice.

You see: I 'absolutely can't stand' those who ask questions without even considering the possibility of finding the answer themselves.
Such individuals are intellectual sloths and we do them a disservice by scurrying about the webs compiling lists of link for them... honestly, whats next? "Now point the little arrow over those blue words... ok, done? Now sit tight while I shoot over and depress the leftmost button on your mouse for you."

Sometimes not helping is the best help one could give. What happens when some such offender needs help and *gasp* you are not online to provide it? Hmmm?

It is quite another thing when someone posts stating that they have exhausted all of the search terms they could come up with and has anyone any experience with x problem... But when someone posts stating that they are ignorant of x (the Macintosh in this case); are suffering under an antiquated tidbit of misinformation; could not care to educate themselves and require an answer from the forum at large then they can get stuffed, sarcasm is a mild backlash for these particular cretins. They are taking up time and energy that could be directed at your precious people who come here to ask advice for things that are not trivial.

...quite. ;)

Oh, but everything is already available on the Internet. Why do you bother posting at all?

However it appears you've a) never done it and b) have not idea of what is being attempted and c) are of no bloody use to anyone.

Good day, sir.

EDIT: I had to try something similar recently and found it extremely difficult to come up with a solution. It took me several hours to find a result that worked for me. Maybe, had I come here first (obviously not for your insightful advice), I would have saved myself several hours. As such I find it to be not such a casual question. Either you can be helpful and not criticize the OP or go post elsewhere.
 
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semiautomatix

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Whatever. I thought it was a valid question.

The solution was either network or use an external hard drive. There, done.

Some of the answers were really crap and unhelpful. If you don't feel like answering it then don't answer. Mac OS X can read NTFS out of the box, and he's moving from a PC to a Mac so no issue there. I don't know why NFS+ was brought up? Also the Mac vs. PC posts as usual ... Go away people!

Ah, but my dear Synaesthesia, can it write NTFS out the box? Not everyone knows this, would you care to be insightful?

EDIT: And here we go, I Yahoo!ed (just don't ask) it for you:

Mac doesn't support Read/Write on NTFS drives they can only read from it
 
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semiautomatix

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Here's a question for someone like our buddy SlinkyMike: if no one had ever posted the answer on the Internet, how would someone be able to Google it? Suppose (and this is theoretical) that this is the first time the question had been posed on a forum, and there always has to be a first time, would you be a snide and unhelpful then?

EDIT: and to top it off, my ISPs link to Google appears to have gone down. Damn, you people are so single-minded its unfortunate. What do we need and education for, when we could just "Google it"?
 
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VertigoZA

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Here's a question for someone like our buddy SlinkyMike: if no one had ever posted the answer on the Internet, how would someone be able to Google it? Suppose (and this is theoretical) that this is the first time the question had been posed on a forum, and there always has to be a first time, would you be a snide and unhelpful then?

EDIT: and to top it off, my ISPs link to Google appears to have gone down. Damn, you people are so single-minded its unfortunate. What do we need and education for, when we could just "Google it"?

..who is this guy?
 

semiautomatix

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Whatever. I thought it was a valid question.

The solution was either network or use an external hard drive. There, done.

Some of the answers were really crap and unhelpful. If you don't feel like answering it then don't answer. Mac OS X can read NTFS out of the box, and he's moving from a PC to a Mac so no issue there. I don't know why NFS+ was brought up? Also the Mac vs. PC posts as usual ... Go away people!

I have a friend who wants to copy files from a PC to a MAC and then back

Woop, no can do with your suggestion, I'm afraid. Any other ideas?

I just know that NTFS is a problem, I've had the same issues on Macs and Linux, which is why I know there isn't a straight forward answer...
 

VertigoZA

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dude. its really not hard. take a flash drive, copy the file from the PC to drive, copy to mac, copy back to the drive, and back to the PC. Am I missing something?
 

semiautomatix

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dude. its really not hard. take a flash drive, copy the file from the PC to drive, copy to mac, copy back to the drive, and back to the PC. Am I missing something?

VertigoZA: what if the file happens to be bigger than 4GB? A FAT32 drive won't be able to handle the data.
 
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VertigoZA

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well isn't that exactly SlinkyMikes point...

I had no idea, but a 5 sec google search told me exactly what to do.

The wheel's already been invented on this issue multiple times over... why are we doing it again in the mybb forums? its a waste of time.
 

semiautomatix

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well isn't that exactly SlinkyMikes point...

I had no idea, but a 5 sec google search told me exactly what to do.

The wheel's already been invented on this issue multiple times over... why are we doing it again in the mybb forums? its a waste of time.

And what was the answer because, from my experience, it isn't that straight forward? The various disk formats are notoriously incompatible.
 

SlinkyMike

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VertigoZA: what if the file happens to be bigger than 4GB? A FAT32 drive won't be able to handle the data.

I have said all I have to say on the compatibility issue, what I would like to know is: when is the last time you dealt with a 4gb file? Not just that but one that you absolutely had to use on a FAT formatted HDD?

I'm not saying that it isn't technically and issue but in practical terms I'm gonna go with grasping at straws on this one ;)
 
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