Petition started to remove judge over rape comments

jingaling said:
Okay, my bad. I thought she did screengrabs of private messages as well.
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Might have been a mixture of both, not sure if the Judge has since deleted some of her comments, couldn't find all of her comments in that thread..
 
Cape Town - A petition has been started calling for the removal of High Court Judge Mabel Jansen over comments on Facebook regarding black people and rape.

However, the judge says her comments were taken out of context, and that she was referring specifically to the rape cases she has heard.

Well-known activist Gillian Schutte posted excerpts of written exchanges with Jansen on Saturday and Sunday, in which Jansen said, among other comments: “In their culture a woman is there to pleasure them. Period. It is seen as an absolute right and a woman's consent is not required.''

As excerpts of the conversation were shared on social media, comments flooded back reflecting shock that a judge could hold such opinions, and calls for her removal gathered pace.

Some also asked whether her previous cases should be reviewed for potential racist bias...
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So it's an ANC judge? :whistle: Is that not ANC excuse no.2 ?
 
This is going to backfire so much.

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Euseabius McOxford is now accusing a woman, who is fighting against rape culture, of racism, because she is pointing out the primary perpetrators in this country. She should just link to all her judgements for all the world to see and inspect. And then do a little statistical analysis of the results. But we all know statistics are racist as well.
 
Some statistics.

https://africacheck.org/factsheets/...s-201415-assault-and-sexual-crime-statistics/

Reported cases of rape continue to decrease. Between 2008/9 and 2014/15 recorded cases dropped by 7.4%, from 46,647 to 43,195 respectively.
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Various research studies have shown that depending on the locality, as few as one in thirteen rapes are reported to the police.
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That's a rough figure of over half a million rapes per year, or 1400 rapes on a daily basis.
 
freddster said:
Funny enough, I don't see, never have for that matter either, an outcry from blacks over the crime , rape and murder situation in the country
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do you keep tabs of each and every outcry, carefully taking notes on whether its a black or white outcry?
 
thechamp said:
do you keep tabs of each and every outcry, carefully taking notes on whether its a black or white outcry?
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No, just an observation, because you see racism all over the place when a white says something. Yet NEVER something about other issues.
 
ngwe23 said:
Shocking stats certainly, that is beyond dispute. To somehow suggest that it is our culture to rape is a step to far and unwarranted.
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Yup, gross generalisations are a bad thing, good to know you wouldn't stoop to doing that..:whistle:

ngwe23 said:
I am in shock that myBB has taken the usual stance of defending the indefensible. Progress /s
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When will people learn? Never, ever engage in political or religious discussions on social media when you can be easily identified. Just don't. Not worth the risk.
 
Cray said:
Might have been a mixture of both, not sure if the Judge has since deleted some of her comments, couldn't find all of her comments in that thread..
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Well it is easier to see are private by comparing the screengrab to public view, which is probably why Gillian Schutte didn't notice.

To be honest, I didn't even know Gillian Schutte is an opinion journalist until coming across her M&G page.

http://thoughtleader.co.za/gillianschutte
 
rape culture

Sexual violence in South Africa
The Medical Research Council states, "Many forms of sexual violence, particularly sexual harassment and forms of sexual coercion that do not involve physical force are widely viewed as normal male behaviour."[35] It also said practices such as gang rape were common because they were considered a form of male bonding.[35]

Among children, a 2007 survey by CIET found 60% of both boys and girls, aged 10 to 19 years old, thought it was not violent to force sex upon someone they knew, while around 11% of boys and 4% of girls admitted to forcing someone else to have sex with them.[22] The study also found that 12.7% of the students believed in the virgin cleansing myth.[49]

In a related survey conducted among 1,500 school children in the Johannesburg township of Soweto, a quarter of all the boys interviewed said that 'jackrolling', a term for gang rape, was fun.[4] Furthermore, more than half the interviewees insisted that when a girl says no to sex she really means yes.[4] It is also noteworthy that those in this study were school children as age is significantly associated with rape. Men from ages 20–40 are more likely to have raped than younger or older men.[10]

Market Research Africa, a Johannesburg-based market research agency, reported in 1994 that 76% of men felt that women had a right to say no to sex, one third thought that women could not decide for themselves on abortion, and 10% condoned a man beating a woman or his wife.
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Cray said:
Yup, gross generalisations are a bad thing, good to know you wouldn't stoop to doing that..:whistle:
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just because its a generalisation doesn't mean its always wrong either. just pointing out that as soon as someone mentioned generalisation its immediately discarded as prejudice or what ever.

if elements share the same characteristics, it can be generalised. this is the point of it.

and yes, there are bad generalisations with no substance behind the claims.
 
ngwe23 said:
I think he is black. He is certainly not white. Besides, that is irrelevant to the matter at hand.
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I would peg him as being coloured rather than black...

I may of course be wrong....
 
ngwe23 said:
Shocking stats certainly, that is beyond dispute. To somehow suggest that it is our culture to rape is a step to far and unwarranted.
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Not according to the president of the country and all round Zulu advocate....
Gender advocates say that the 2006 rape trial of prominent politician Jacob Zuma was incredibly damaging to their cause. Zuma, who was elected President this year, was tried and acquitted of raping an HIV-positive family friend. He told the court that the woman had dressed provocatively, in a traditional wrap-around kanga, and that it was against Zulu culture for a man to leave a sexually aroused woman unsatisfied.
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http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1906000,00.html

Tell me how the Zulu people in this country reacted to such a statement. Oh wait, they supported him in record numbers.
 
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