Pitbulls

[Pitbull]

I respect owners who treat their dogs properly and have dependable, loving pets. However, certain types like Pitbulls (kindly explain the origin of the name, please?) have the ability to be more harmful than others. I'd sooner attempt to befriend a calm-looking Boerboel, Labrador or German Shepherd, than a calm Rottweiller, Doberman or Pitbull. Those are simply more viscious IMO.

Now these dogs scare me But I will never call for them to be banned

As for the name Pitbull. AFAIK, I might be wrong. The name came from the fact that these dogs where used in Pit fighting. During those older times these dogs where used in Pits to fight against, bears, Bulls and other dogs.

Damn sick

 

[killadoob]

Yes but do you think the germans from world war 2 and the germans now are the same? Do you think the way the germans where brought up in those times added to their aggression compared to now?

Do you think they would just murder jews left right and center or was it maybe what they were taught and trained to do? It's basically a question of the way you are brought up. You can make humans kill if you want to without fear or anything just like a pitbull.

 

[w1z4rd]

They were mostly bred for blood sports.

 

[w1z4rd]

Yes but do you the germans from world war 2 and the germans now are the same? Do you think the way the german where brought up in those times added to their aggression compared to now?

Why did we kill most germans the allies came against in ww2... they were handing out too much candy?

 

[killadoob]

Well your not answering my obvious question, i am not wondering why the allies killed germans i am asking if the way the germans were brought up made them kill without thought or care compared to them now.

Anyways you have made up your mind about them already and i fear that no amount of arguing will change your mind, even though you can clearly see many type of animals will kill without care if brought up a certain way including cats .

 

[w1z4rd]

Well your not answering my obvious question, i am not wondering why the allies killed germans i am asking if the way the germans were brought up made them kill without thought or care compared to them now.

Mostly with humans.. no. Pitbulls were and still are in lots of areas.

 

[jvk]

are you guys really comparing animal behaviour with that of humans ?!?

it's one thing to debate whether or not pitbulls are a dangerous breed but
comparing that with human behaviour doesn't really make sense IMHO

 

[w1z4rd]

are you guys really comparing animal behaviour with that of humans ?!?

it's one thing to debate whether or not pitbulls are a dangerous breed but
comparing that with human behaviour doesn't really make sense IMHO

You are right, I wanted to avoid that red herring but failed

 

[killadoob]

Well it does because dogs need the training to kill much like humans. For dogs though its instinct so yes maybe not a fair comparison.

 

[Pitbull]

are you guys really comparing animal behaviour with that of humans ?!?

it's one thing to debate whether or not pitbulls are a dangerous breed but
comparing that with human behaviour doesn't really make sense IMHO

I have not, but I get what Killadoob is saying. Branding all Pitbulls because of a limited number of attacks from the breed is the same as saying all humans are rapists and murderers because you get those also in the human race.

Either way, all dogs have been involved in attacks on humans. Just because a Pitbull causes more severe damage they are labeled as being the scum of the earth. I have never heard of a dog attack in which the dog just went berserk and took a whole town down.

All attacks happen on one human and then stops thereafter. If there is 10 people in a yard and the dog attacks one person, it doesn't continue the attack once it has immobilized the target. The other 9 people does not get attacked. Now what does that tell you ? And this goes for any dog breed.

There are a few reasons for Dog attacks:

1. Territory
2. Taunting it into an attack
3. Food
4. When it feels threatened.

 

[w1z4rd]

Well it does because dogs need the training to kill much like humans. For dogs though its instinct so yes maybe not a fair comparison.

um...

As a result, Victorian fighting dogs (Staffordshire Bull Terriers and, though less commonly used as fighters, English Bull Terriers) generally had stable temperaments and were commonly kept in the home by the gambling men who owned them.

During the mid-1800s, immigration to the United States from Ireland and England brought an influx of these dogs to America, mainly to Boston, where they were bred to be larger and stockier, working as farm dogs in the West as much as fighting dogs in the cities. The resulting breed, also called the American Pit Bull Terrier

/me breeds a ww2 german with a mongal hun to create a geronglian supreme super duper fighter.

No one disgrees for reasons of attacks... its more the statistic at the breeds behind the attacks... and the genetic breeding to make it that way. Simple math... lol @ handful of attacks... there are dozens every months... most likely more, cause I only went back a week or two of the many I posted.

A study examining a two-year period by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention stated that, "during 1997 and 1998, at least 27 people died of dog bite attacks (18 in 1997 and 9 in 1998). At least 25 breeds of dogs have been involved in 238 human DBRF (dog bite related fatalities) during the past 20 years. Pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers" [the study lumps these two breeds into one category] "...were involved in more than half of these deaths." Additionally, the article concluded: "Although fatal attacks on humans appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers), other breeds may bite and cause fatalities at higher rates."

and more... http://www.wkyt.com/news/headlines/43498372.html

 

[Pitbull]

um...


/me breeds a ww2 german with a mongal hun to create a geronglian supreme super duper fighter.

No one disgrees for reasons of attacks... its more the statistic at the breeds behind the attacks... and the genetic breeding to make it that way. Simple math... lol @ handful of attacks... there are dozens every months... most likely more, cause I only went back a week or two of the many I posted.



and more... http://www.wkyt.com/news/headlines/43498372.html

Again, you just read what suites your view. You did a google for Pitbull related attacks, search for other breeds and what happens

Pls tell me which dog is responsible for the most "dog on human attacks in South Africa.... pls pls pls pls pls I beg of you.

 

[Pitbull]

The Boerboel and the Rifrig is far more dangerous than the pitbull and they are responsible for more attacks on humans than pitbulls. I suggest your do your homework again

 

[w1z4rd]

Again, you just read what suites your view. You did a google for Pitbull related attacks, search for other breeds and what happens

Pls tell me which dog is responsible for the most dog on humn attacks in South Africa.... pls pls pls pls pls I beg of you.

Err... no ... you directed me at wiki, which I had not used yet. When I went to the google news section I simply put in "pitbull"... nothing else. On wiki I used the page you supplied and the page on the pitbull... no other.

Not getting much right I am afraid...

I will happily find the stats... if there are any.. just point the way so I can do more "homework"

 

[Conradl]

Does it matter if the pitbull was neutered?

I think people should be forced to take better care of their dogs; the scariest dog I ever saw was a bat**** crazy Alsatian that lived in a house with no fence. Was too scared to drive in that road in case my car broke down

 

[porn$tar]

A mate once tried to breed them. He had a little of about 6 he was keeping in an old servant quarters and one day a few of the puppies got into a fight. They where about 2 months old at the time. The place looked like a blood bath by the time he got to it. Really freaky.

2 month old pups? sounds like their aggression is more genetic than a result of training.

 

[Conradl]

2 month old pups? sounds like their aggression is more genetic than a result of training.

They feisty, I knew a guy who used to breed them. His party trick was to choke a puppy until it was near unconscious, then when he stopped choking it the dog would try to attack him (instead of running away)....

One of his dogs ended up ripping three fingers off his hand

 

[w1z4rd]

labradoodles ftw. No choke chains required!

 

[killadoob]

They feisty, I knew a guy who used to breed them. His party trick was to choke a puppy until it was near unconscious, then when he stopped choking it the dog would try to attack him (instead of running away)....

One of his dogs ended up ripping three fingers off his hand

Would have been better to have ripped off his face in all honesty.

I hope that happens in the near future to him.

 

[Mila]

I am a cat person. I do not like dogs that hate cats.

But i do know that it's all about how you raise the dog. But i do think they tend to be more agro than a labarador.