Plasma vs LCD

SD content on LCD's looks just as good as plasma nowadays. Go instore and check the difference yourself.

Make sure it's an SD feed in the shop - with the exception of very high-end LCD's the plasmas generally look better. But I agree, go look for yourself.

And as for HD vs HD Ready - unless you sit on top of the TV and you're feeding it genuine HD content (BluRay, NOT DSTv HD) there won't be a difference.

Agree, especially for up to 42". Although, if the prices are close you can just as well get Full HD.

Ask 10 people and you'll get 17.5 opinions. ;)

+18.5 :)

Whilst googling, you'll find a lot of these...

Europe may ban Plasma screens in energy use crackdown :
http://www.geek.com/articles/news/europe-may-ban-plasma-screens-in-energy-use-crackdown-20090113/

Plasma TVs to be Banned in Europe?
http://www.highdefforum.com/high-de...-articles/88024-plasma-tvs-banned-europe.html

Has nothing to do with viewing quality. The vision part of television is priority. :p But you're right, it could be a factor for some.
 
Don't the plasma's also support higher frequency's than the LCD?
I was looking at a LG 42" Plasma the other day running at 600Hz.:wtf:
 
again...

new 2010 plasmas are energy star 4.0 rated, consumes 30% less power so the plasma banned argument is out of the window...

Unless the lcd is LED edge-lit or backlit, it consumes MORE power than a typical plasma as the plasma adjusts its power consumption dynamically based on the on-screen content -CCFL lcd's draw constant power no matter the content shown.

Plasma is by far the best option for your needs - and that Samsung is great value for your money - I have the 42b450 and an hdpvr, wii,xbox360 and everything looks fantastic - I also own a pana 32 inch lcd and the samsung blows it away...

Just take the plasma out of dynamic mode and into movie mode and enjoy :)

Also, grab a component cable for your wii, a great investment in terms of maximizing picture quality= more enjoyment for your kids
 
Unless the lcd is LED edge-lit or backlit, it consumes MORE power than a typical plasma...

Sorry, but you're talking out of your ... LCDs consumes less electricity than plasma.

http://reviews.cnet.com/green-tech/tv-power-efficiency/

The 'big three' of TV power: Size, type, and settings

The power used by an active television is determined by three factors: screen size; technology type, such as plasma or LCD; and picture brightness, which nearly always depends on user-selected picture settings.

Screen size: Bigger TVs use more power. A 32-inch LCD uses about half as much power as a 52-inch LCD. Of course, the 52-incher's screen is nearly three times as large as that of the 32-inch model, so the efficiency payoff for going down in screen size does tend to taper off. However, the chances are your new flat-screen TV will use more power than your old tube TV--if the new set is significantly larger.

Technology type: Plasma TVs use more power than LCD TVs. In our tests of TVs since the beginning of 2008 plasmas consume, on average, roughly two to three times more electricity to produce an image of the same brightness as LCD. In the last couple of years, plasma TV makers have made some progress--Panasonic claims improvements of 30 percent yearly, for example--but they still can't compete with LCD for energy efficiency. One problem is that in plasma TVs, each pixel is a discrete light source (think of it as a tiny light bulb), so when resolution increases, say from 720p to 1080p, power use goes up as well. The intensity of light from each pixel must be increased to brighten the picture as a whole.

With LCD-based TVs, on the other hand, a backlight shines through an LCD panel to create the image. Since the pixels reside in the panel, and not the backlight, the TV's power use is largely independent of resolution. Many LCDs can conserve additional power by automatically turning the backlight down during dark scenes and up during bright scenes. Some models use a different backlight technology, such as LEDs, which are inherently more efficient than standard fluorescent backlights. And some "local dimming" models can even control the brightness of different parts of the LED backlight independently.

Old CRT-based TVs are relatively inefficient, especially compared with LCD TVs; however, since CRT screen size is limited, they often don't use as much power as big flat-screen models. Rear-projection HDTVs are actually the most energy efficient per square inch of the TV technologies, but they're rare nowadays.

Picture settings: Brighter pictures consume more power, and since light output is primarily a function of the picture settings available on all TVs, this is the one factor that any user can control regardless of television. Reducing the light output of your TV can cut power use by as much as half, and as long as you don't overdo it, you'll still enjoy excellent picture quality.

The principal settings that matter are contrast (aka "picture") and backlight (or "cell light" on Samsung plasmas). Both directly control light output. Nearly every TV has a contrast control, but backlight is generally restricted to LCD models--and not every LCD has it. In LCDs with both backlight and contrast controls, backlight is the main determinant of light output and power use. Counterintuitively, the brightness control has less of an impact on TVs light output than the other two settings do.

Other controls are also often available, such as energy saver modes, which typically limit peak light output, dynamic settings that raise or lower the light output depending on the brightness or darkness of the picture being displayed, and room lighting sensors that increase light output in dark rooms and lower it when the lights dim. Engaging any of these controls will generally reduce the TVs power use, but it will often sacrifice image fidelity. Automatic adjustments can be distracting, for example, and aggressive energy saver modes can make images too dim.
 
One problem is that in plasma TVs, each pixel is a discrete light source (think of it as a tiny light bulb), so when resolution increases, say from 720p to 1080p, power use goes up as well.

Then it must use very little power when watching DSTV. :p
 
Bloody hell.

This is harder than buying a car :D

It would be even harder if your thread title was "Plasma vs LCD vs LED".
LED prices are coming down, Samsung are selling nice ones here.
 
It would be even harder if your thread title was "Plasma vs LCD vs LED".
LED prices are coming down, Samsung are selling nice ones here.

Be careful, though. Samsung's current range of LED TVs are nothing more than a marketing stunt riding on the public's misconceptions about the NEXT big thing - OLED TV. LED isn't anything more complex than a normal LCD TV with LED, rather than fluorescent, backlighting. It's a sham.
 
Yep, there is nothing more irritating than marketing a product as a "next big thing". So far I've never heard of TVs being marketed as LED backlit LCD TVs, but then, too much words would confuse the poor souls who know nothing about TVs to begin with.

I love my plasma. Got a Samsung PS50B550 50" plasma and never looked back. So enjoying it very much.
 
I bought my LG 42" plasma 2 years ago and it had pixel shifting protection and new technology that prevents the burn in to. While it didn't burn in, I had image retention which drove me to insanity.

Got a LCD and love it - but admittingly, don't have DSTV/SABC or any TV as such. Only for the Xbox and downloaded movies.
 
I forgot about that :eek:

My kids sometimes leave the DvD's they watch on where it just shows the load screen for hours before I realise it, since I don't watch TV much. In that case a Plasma is out of the question then. I nearly made a big mistake :D Thanks for reminding me.

My dvd player has a "screen saver" that bounces around to avoid such burn-in issues (while in load screens or similar), got an LG dvd.
 
My experience is that Plasma repsoduces black better and doesn't blur when sport viewing moves quickly.

With regards to picture burn in, most sets have picture shift which move the miage a pixel or 2 every few minutes/seconds.

That said I only have a 480p Samsung that's a good few years old and have had nothing but viewing pleasure from it. Lifespan of the screen is about 60 000 hours which equates to 6.8 years if left on permanently. Take 4 hours viewing per day and it will last 6 times that.

I prefer plasma and will buy a 720 or 1080 in the not too distant future.
 
The thing I don't like about plasmas is the glossy screen. If you've got white walls, the sun will reflect off them and you'll see a lot of reflections on a plasma. An LCD's matt finish has no reflections at all even in a bright sunlit room.
 
Yes, yes it is. Ask 10 people and you'll get 17.5 opinions. ;)

...and from what I can pick up those opinions will be swayed greatly by what they currently own!

My experience is that Plasma repsoduces black better and doesn't blur when sport viewing moves quickly.

This would be the clincher for me. If I may partly hijack your thread PK, do most LCDs having "comet" tails following the players?
 
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Ok, so I decided to go get a Plasma instead :p

Now I just read the Plasma 50" for under R 10k thread :eek: But now I'm a little devided...

Buy the Samsung 42" or the Telefunken 50" for R 10k

I'm leaning towards the Samsung instead, any comments?

I'll be going in either tomorrow or Saturday to go buy the TV so I have a couple of more days to make up my mind. But I'm hell bent on a Plasma now :p
 
Ok, so I decided to go get a Plasma instead :p

Now I just read the Plasma 50" for under R 10k thread :eek: But now I'm a little devided...

Buy the Samsung 42" or the Telefunken 50" for R 10k

I'm leaning towards the Samsung instead, any comments?

I'll be going in either tomorrow or Saturday to go buy the TV so I have a couple of more days to make up my mind. But I'm hell bent on a Plasma now :p

50" sure is tempting...but I'm not so sure about the Telefunken brand. How's the warranty, that will be the deal breaker? (and the screen quality of course :p)

One other thing, how is your tv room setup. You probably don't want to be sitting too close to the 50".
 
I had a Tedelex before I got my Samsung. Thing broke down in 6 months then broke down again a month later. The place I bought it from was so embarassed that they cancelled the rest of my payments effectively giving me a 15000 plasma for 8500 and swapped it for a Samsung. This was 4 years ago when they were very pricey
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Get the Sammy in other words.
 
Ok, so I decided to go get a Plasma instead :p

Now I just read the Plasma 50" for under R 10k thread :eek: But now I'm a little devided...

Buy the Samsung 42" or the Telefunken 50" for R 10k

I'm leaning towards the Samsung instead, any comments?

I'll be going in either tomorrow or Saturday to go buy the TV so I have a couple of more days to make up my mind. But I'm hell bent on a Plasma now :p

I was in the same boat a while ago , see this thread for the whole sad story.

I would stay away from "cheaper" plasma displays , they usually use older panels and the scaler is also of an inferior quality. I looked at the Samsung B550 which was a bit out of my price range and lo behold along came the LG 50" PQ30 from game @ R12.5K

Depending on your viewing distance , the 50" will blow you away , and the whole story 720p vs 1080p goes away at 3m or more :P. Also make sure your room is fairly dark as this panel does reflect quite a bit , but that is something that can be managed (darker curtains , effective lighting etc).

I'm currently breaking in my plasma with AVSForum's break in disc ( minimum 100hours to be safe). I did notice some IR and my heart sank , but after some research found this goes away quickly after some movie/series watching. Golden rule , first 100 or so hours of use keep the contrast and brightness down to 50 , keep your aspect ratio to a "Zoom" mode to avoid black bars , enable any pixel shifting technology and you will be amazed at how good a plasma is.

LG PQ30 owners thread here

In the end it's how the display "pops" for you , and don't let the salesman tell you this and that , play with the different view settings (try Cinema on the LG) , watch some SD content.

My 2c :P

P.S Reason I didn't go for the Sammy was apparent "buzzing" issues : http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1144869&page=26
 
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I have a 42" Samsung plasma.

At first when i got the set i was a bit unhappy with quality, so i decided to google. Dozens of forums have people telling you their best settings so i printed out about 20 diff ones and started one by one. In the end i landed up with a really near to perfect picture, its far better than my friends 46" LCD.

So as many will agree you have to play around with the settings and you'll be surprized how much you can improve. And even though its only HD Ready i am really happy with my xBox picture quality on my Samsung.

The glare is a bit evident but not nearly as annoying as the old tubes. I give my Samsung plasma a thumbs up.
 
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