Port Elizabeth

If you are young and free, there are better places. Once you are married and have family it used to be the best place in the world.
 
roadcat said:
If you are young and free, there are better places. Once you are married and have family it used to be the best place in the world.
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True that, midnight picnics on Noordhoek, Flatrocks ot even Kings' beach are out of the question these days, unless you have arranged at least a five-man security contingent. But there are creative alternatives: Midnight Oyster Cruises (on a chartered boat in the bay, means permitting), alternatively go somewhere where nobody goes, ever.

To meet quality people in any city in the world (read: nice ladies) , just be yourself, and be clever. Do what ladies like. Join the Penquin rescue team at Cape Recife, or the Turtle rescue group at BayWorld ( I know that it's a shadow of its former Colonialist White Apartheid self, even an embarrassment some might say) but there are dedicated people there, even today, in SANParks (I kid you not).
Some of the Game Lodges (Addo, Shamwari, Scotia, Amakhala) are ripe with amazing and intelligent people. Be nice to them, get to know them, your efforts will be rewarded.
 
RonSwanson said:
True that, midnight picnics on Noordhoek, Flatrocks ot even Kings' beach are out of the question these days, unless you have arranged at least a five-man security contingent. But there are creative alternatives: Midnight Oyster Cruises (on a chartered boat in the bay, means permitting), alternatively go somewhere where nobody goes, ever.

To meet quality people in any city in the world (read: nice ladies) , just be yourself, and be clever. Do what ladies like. Join the Penquin rescue team at Cape Recife, or the Turtle rescue group at BayWorld ( I know that it's a shadow of its former Colonialist White Apartheid self, even an embarrassment some might say) but there are dedicated people there, even today, in SANParks (I kid you not).
Some of the Game Lodges (Addo, Shamwari, Scotia, Amakhala) are ripe with amazing and intelligent people. Be nice to them, get to know them, your efforts will be rewarded.
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Actually it’s because I moved overseas in 2019 Still miss PE though.
 
So I've visited the province for wedding thinking well be in PE. Nope. we ended up in the north, in Amatole district, komkhulu. Wow this place is rural. worse than my own Limpopo. So much rain yet dry taps, a place made up of SHACK Stores AND GRAVEL ROADS with grass growth everywhere is called a town. The north seems poor stricken compared to the south of the province. How is anyone still living like this in 2022?
 
Roman avril said:
So I've visited the province for wedding thinking well be in PE. Nope. we ended up in the north, in Amatole district, komkhulu. Wow this place is rural. worse than my own Limpopo. So much rain yet dry taps, a place made up of SHACK Stores AND GRAVEL ROADS with grass growth everywhere is called a town. The north seems poor stricken compared to the south of the province. How is anyone still living like this in 2022?
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ANC <--- there is your answer
 
PhireSide said:
ANC <--- there is your answer
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At this point in time we all know about them, main devils. But what about the people and private sector themselves? Are they contributing to this poverty in any way? How can anyone be contempt with their kids waking at 3 to go to a school 4 km away? in 2022? this is basically apartheid. No wonder they end up dropping out of school. so much work for a child? noo
 
Roman avril said:
At this point in time we all know about them, main devils. But what about the people and private sector themselves? Are they contributing to this poverty in any way? How can anyone be contempt with their kids waking at 3 to go to a school 4 km away? in 2022? this is basically apartheid. No wonder they end up dropping out of school. so much work for a child? noo
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The thing is, why would a private sector want to invest in an area where you have crumbling roads, power outages, no water, etc etc. in the first place? If the local government would pull finger and start doing some meaningful work to attract investors, then maybe the status quo would change.

"Build it and they will come"
 
I've got family in PE and we were meant to come visit next week but now I believe PE is about to run out of water again.
 
Brawler said:
I've got family in PE and we were meant to come visit next week but now I believe PE is about to run out of water again.
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As long as you bring 50l per day per person you'll be allowed in.
thehuman said:
Don't let that stop you visiting.
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Agreed.

There are plenty of other reasons besides the drought.
 
PE ain't bad. Depends where you go. The radius around the airport and Summerstrand area is pretty decent. If you are into the ocean/surfski/diving/sailing/fishing etc it's great. Big enough to be called a city, but with small town vibes. If you are more of a mall dweller, there are better places for you.
 
Brawler said:
I've got family in PE and we were meant to come visit next week but now I believe PE is about to run out of water again.
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That's the most disturbing thing. Plenty of rain, too much of it unlike Limpopo, but our taps are mostly wet but in EC, dry. What the F? Water is non negotiable. What has Oscar mabuyane been doing to remedy the situation?
 
PhireSide said:
The thing is, why would a private sector want to invest in an area where you have crumbling roads, power outages, no water, etc etc. in the first place? If the local government would pull finger and start doing some meaningful work to attract investors, then maybe the status quo would change.

"Build it and they will come"
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And the money comes in from treasury but they dont spend it, especially in education and infrastructure. They end up returning it at the end of the financial year
 
Roman avril said:
as in the company is managing to keep the city relevant?
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A lot of companies are reliant on the automotive sector in PE.

GM, VW and FoMoCo are the major players. Then supporting them are places like Heraeus, Faurecia, Hella/Lumotech, Benteler, BASF, etc.

We also have a few tyre producers, and as a result, the only carbon black plant on the continent.
 
Roman avril said:
as in the company is managing to keep the city relevant?
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PhireSide said:
A lot of companies are reliant on the automotive sector in PE.

GM, VW and FoMoCo are the major players. Then supporting them are places like Heraeus, Faurecia, Hella/Lumotech, Benteler, BASF, etc.

We also have a few tyre producers, and as a result, the only carbon black plant on the continent.
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Exactly, The major force for employment in the area are from supporting companies to the automotive manufacturing industry, the work trickles down. With VW being by far and away the biggest source of income for these supporting companies. Without it many companies would have to close or downscale massively.

Which is why there is such a strong lobby effort to try and get more companies that sell cars here to produce at least some parts of the cars here, also why imported cars have higher taxes, to incentivize and protect local manufacturing.
 
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