Portable Power Stations

milan188 said:
Generally it is not a concern. Look at the number of cycles the battery can do and you will see it should last about 8-10 years assuming you do 1 full discharge every day.
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That, maybe true, but still, a replaceable battery adds points here.
 
Park@82 said:
The main down side is that it takes 4 hours to recharge and it has an external power adapter.

If she is looking for something a bit better for +- R1k extra then look at the Ecoflow River 2 and the Bluetti EB3A.
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I actually told her to get a Magneto for R7K with double the size.
Apparently, lack of funds was an issue.

Either way, I suspect she already ordered.
 
Park@82 said:
I dont think you can use those as a ups and "*Do not power devices with the Portable Power Station while it is charging." so maybe she dodged a bullet xD
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I don't think you can use the Ankers as real UPS devices either, they're primarily emergency power supplies, like the Bluettis and Ecoflows. The Wiibox is a micro-UPS. So that can work as a UPS for your small devices, routers and ONTs and maybe small screens.

I see Ecoflow now sell their larger units with transfer switches, which can be installed, by an installer.
 
Mirai said:
I don't think you can use the Ankers as real UPS devices either, they're primarily emergency power supplies, like the Bluettis and Ecoflows. The Wiibox is a micro-UPS. So that can work as a UPS for your small devices, routers and ONTs and maybe small screens.

I see Ecoflow now sell their larger units with transfer switches, which can be installed, by an installer.
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They aren't true ups units because of the transfer time. EcoFlow has a 30ms delay.

The Magneto on the other hand does not support charing while it is powering a device so it doesn't have the same functionality at all.

The Wiibox doesn't have AC output so it's only good for some DC applications. I don't think it has more than around 90wh of capacity.

Yes EcoFlow is bundleing ATS units with some of their products. It's a pretty generic ATS, the same thing can be bought on takealot for R400 last time it checked.
 
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Park@82 said:
They aren't true ups units because of the transfer time. EcoFlow has a 30ms delay.

The Magneto on the other hand does not support charing while it is powering a device so it doesn't have the same functionality at all.

The Wiibox doesn't have AC output so it's only good for some DC applications. I don't think it has more than around 90wh of capacity.

Yes EcoFlow is bundleing ATS units with some of their products. It's a pretty generic ATS, the same thing can be bought on takealot for R400 last time it checked.
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I don't think any of these AC devices are true UPSes. You can use the more expensive ones as that but likely they won't last as long, the UPS functionality is half baked, they're really sold as emergency or camping power supplies. If you look on Anker's website, "UPS" does not appear in the product description nor in the manual and it's not stated the device may be plugged in 24/7/365. The Wibox with the replaceable Bluenova is a 104 Wh product which may have more charge cycles (>5000) at 50% DOD, which powering a router/ONT will likely not use more than 50Wh, I think my TP-LINK router uses 3-4 Watts. I think these low voltage DC devices are true UPS devices. Granted the Anker and Ecoflow have 5 year warranties but that may also depend on the dealer whether they honour these devices being used in an always connected way, which is not what they're really advertised to be used as.

My point about the ATS was that they're bundling them because people are using them for what they're not intended to be used for, to be always plugged in as a UPS device. Ecoflow are probably having many returns as evidenced by the refurbished devices they're selling. Anker will probably fare no better, they have access to the same Chinese parts Ecoflow have.

If these devices could be used as plugged in 24/7, they'd be advertised as such on their manufacturer's websites.
 
Mirai said:
I don't think any of these AC devices are true UPSes. You can use the more expensive ones as that but likely they won't last as long, the UPS functionality is half baked, they're really sold as emergency or camping power supplies. If you look on Anker's website, "UPS" does not appear in the product description nor in the manual and it's not stated the device may be plugged in 24/7/365. The Wibox with the replaceable Bluenova is a 104 Wh product which may have more charge cycles (>5000) at 50% DOD, which powering a router/ONT will likely not use more than 50Wh, I think my TP-LINK router uses 3-4 Watts. I think these low voltage DC devices are true UPS devices. Granted the Anker and Ecoflow have 5 year warranties but that may also depend on the dealer whether they honour these devices being used in an always connected way, which is not what they're really advertised to be used as.

My point about the ATS was that they're bundling them because people are using them for what they're not intended to be used for, to be always plugged in as a UPS device. Ecoflow are probably having many returns as evidenced by the refurbished devices they're selling. Anker will probably fare no better, they have access to the same Chinese parts Ecoflow have.

If these devices could be used as plugged in 24/7, they'd be advertised as such on their manufacturer's websites.
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I just wonder how one will know if an advertised UPS, can truly be used as a UPS?
 
Mirai said:
I don't think any of these AC devices are true UPSes. You can use the more expensive ones as that but likely they won't last as long, the UPS functionality is half baked, they're really sold as emergency or camping power supplies.
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I don't think it's a good idea to use them as a pernamently on ups either but most people on the EcoFlow ZA Facebook page seems to be using it exactly like that. Someone made a poll recently and so far 68% of people keep theirs plugged in and powered on 24x7. EcoFlow does not seem to have a problem with it. Many people in the group aksed if it was allowed and the consensus is that it is fine to do so.
 
I notice the new Gizzu Hero models have a 10ms UPS switchover which is something in their favour compared to a lot of the competition. Seriously considering getting one, although it seems the 1024WH/1000W 'Max' model is still in 'arriving soon' status so there's a bit of a gap in the range (512WH/800W, 2048WH/2400W, 3840WH/3600W).
 
Parched said:
I notice the new Gizzu Hero models have a 10ms UPS switchover which is something in their favour compared to a lot of the competition. Seriously considering getting one, although it seems the 1024WH/1000W 'Max' model is still in 'arriving soon' status so there's a bit of a gap in the range (512WH/800W, 2048WH/2400W, 3840WH/3600W).
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The Geewizz 2000w power station also has this and passthrough power which is great. Also slightly cheaper than the GIZZU HERO 2048.
 
gogga_ said:
Another SA success story caused by ESKOMs failure. Like the Magneto Lantern. 8 million units sold in SA :oops:
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How many of those were resales cause of the cable burnings?
 
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