Price comparison - Uncapped ADSL

[Biscuit1018]

Point is they were upfront about it and said if it doesnt suit you then ok, rather try somewhere else. Ya, theres the issue of calling it uncapped but thats an issue for the ASA. If 60gigs isnt enough then fair enough, move along.
I am glad though that there is someone like mweb who seem to be keeping up their end of the bargain so there is at least a choice of somewhere else to move to

Well I am not commenting on their contractural ethics because there is no issue there. It is upfront.
Nor am I interested in the ASA debate.
I realise I have the right to move on.

My point is simple
a) It isn't really uncapped if they choke so quickly. Forget the ASA just apply the reasonable man test. I am not going to sue anyone or write to the ASA. I will vote with my feet.

b) MWebs looks better on the face of it. If I am wrong here I would love someone to tell me. Maybe MWeb have a similar choking method.

Remember this is an article about comparing the various uncapped offering so my comment is in the appropriate place.

I realise that many posters love AH but that does not mean they are above criticism. My comment is fair comment with substantiation. WA got taken to the cleaners by many posters a few months back. My comments are polite in comparison to those and I didn't see many people coming to their defence. The ability to 'move on' applied there as well.

My criticism is fair comment and posted on the right thread.

 

[drukkie]

Mweb looks the way to go...

Very happy with them so far...did 200GB's in 15 days last month...only signed up middle of the month BUT they did say 200GB fair usage p/m
They also passed my credit for my free month onto my 4MB line without any difficulties. What's also nice is they shape you during office hours so you don't need to.
Will stick to my 200GB per month as that is more than i need.

 

[Biscuit1018]

Very happy with them so far...did 200GB's in 15 days last month...only signed up middle of the month BUT they did say 200GB fair usage p/m
They also passed my credit for my free month onto my 4MB line without any difficulties. What's also nice is they shape you during office hours so you don't need to.
Will stick to my 200GB per month as that is more than i need.

Thanks for the advice!

What happens if you go over? Say to 240G.

 

[Creag]

Still amazes me that Telkom have not entered the fray. Caught napping or just pure arrogance?

 

[Na-iem]

Very happy with them so far...did 200GB's in 15 days last month...only signed up middle of the month BUT they did say 200GB fair usage p/m
They also passed my credit for my free month onto my 4MB line without any difficulties. What's also nice is they shape you during office hours so you don't need to.
Will stick to my 200GB per month as that is more than i need.

Is there some place on mweb's website where you can see how much data you have used?

 

[fluKe]

Interesting that WA and Neotel are not on any of the lists

 

[Arcane]

Na-iem

Yes they remade their website, quite nifty now.

Just log in with your user details on www.mweb.co.za, under the "adsl" section u can see day to day usange, or monthly, even for the last 12 months.

 

[PAYBACK]

I am disappointed about the Afrihost deal. I get the impression they rushed it to market and in order to stop their bandwidth being saturated they introduced reducing bandwidth as your consumption increases

For a 4Mb account

Basically after 60G they choke your line to 1024k
After 90G they choke it to 512k
After 120G they choke it to 384k
After 150G they choke it to 128k

Its not really a 4Mb uncapped account is it?
Hell, if I get choked to 512k I will stop using it.

Compare it to MWeb.

I understand that contention will happen. I understand the need to choke certain protocols.
But choking in a linear manner is just not viable.
I tend to be using the web in a more realtime mode during the week. Email, web traffic etc.
On the week-end I tend to download content. So my week-end consumption is high but I am using it when the network can handle it.

Mweb looks the way to go...

No offense but you downlaoded 60 friggin gigs worth of "content" and you moaning that they degraded the lines. Good on them. I knew this would happen.

You know I've been surfing the interwebs since the good old 9.6k days and moved up in the ranks to my current 4meg line. I dreamed of a day we would have a uncapped service at relatively affordable rates. I've held off until TELKOM plays it's cards before jumping on board, but I can't help but think that people like this Biscuit are ***oring it up for the rest of us or am I being a bit harsh ?

60 friggin gig get a life !

 

[cj1]

Originally Posted by cj1
i could be on a wrong discussion, but it could be related. I am with Myisp on a 384/3 gig package from before they released their unlimited package. Before I could download torrents at a pretty good speed, but over the past weekend including last night speed is basically zero whilst the normal browsing and emails are at the normal speeds (constantly > 35KB. It seem like the capped people are now paying the price for the uncapped people. i could be wrong though.

Methinks you're getting confused with shaped and unshaped. Not so?


The point is, I could download torrents at a reasonable speed and now that speed is basically a fat zero.

 

[Speedster]

What is the FUP for MyISP?

 

[diabolus]

Originally Posted by cj1
i could be on a wrong discussion, but it could be related. I am with Myisp on a 384/3 gig package from before they released their unlimited package. Before I could download torrents at a pretty good speed, but over the past weekend including last night speed is basically zero whilst the normal browsing and emails are at the normal speeds (constantly > 35KB. It seem like the capped people are now paying the price for the uncapped people. i could be wrong though.

Methinks you're getting confused with shaped and unshaped. Not so?


The point is, I could download torrents at a reasonable speed and now that speed is basically a fat zero.

Well interestingly, if you scan which ISPs are receiving complaints about speeds and poor performance, they all are on the same backbone supplier: Internet Solutions (IS). This would be Afrihost,Myisp,Axxess,Imagine......(the article in this thread also shows this)

So somewhere one has to wonder how much blame is actually IS and how much is the ISP-reseller...

The only ISP which seems to have people raving about their speeds and performance -consistently- since uncapped was launched, is MWEB, and they're not using IS.....

 

[Speedster]

Also - what happened to this promise from MyISP?

We are confident that we will have a uncapped service for under a R100 before the end of the month. Watch this space!

 

[RealNapster]

No offense but you downlaoded 60 friggin gigs worth of "content" and you moaning that they degraded the lines. Good on them. I knew this would happen.

You know I've been surfing the interwebs since the good old 9.6k days and moved up in the ranks to my current 4meg line. I dreamed of a day we would have a uncapped service at relatively affordable rates. I've held off until TELKOM plays it's cards before jumping on board, but I can't help but think that people like this Biscuit are ***oring it up for the rest of us or am I being a bit harsh ?

60 friggin gig get a life !

Telkom had you good all this years,now you even think 60 gigs it is the entire internet
Give a guy a break,he got stuff to move

 

[Biscuit1018]

No offense but you downlaoded 60 friggin gigs worth of "content" and you moaning that they degraded the lines. Good on them. I knew this would happen.

You know I've been surfing the interwebs since the good old 9.6k days and moved up in the ranks to my current 4meg line. I dreamed of a day we would have a uncapped service at relatively affordable rates. I've held off until TELKOM plays it's cards before jumping on board, but I can't help but think that people like this Biscuit are ***oring it up for the rest of us or am I being a bit harsh ?

60 friggin gig get a life !

Ok, but you need to read my entire post.
I was, up to the announcement of uncapped buying 100G a month.
So mate I was paying for the 100G I downloaded.

I hoped that Uncapped meant uncapped so I could move 100 odd G without choking.
I need the 4M speed for day time business.

Also a lot of my stuff is business. Email traffic accounts for a whole lot.
All our business applications are in the cloud. Hosting bills galore.
I backup ((& restore) documents, spreadsheets etc. via the Net.
Thats all business and accounts for a decent number.

Private surfing does not account for much.
As for the geeky downloads well I do download a fair amount but I do them strictly on the week-end or late at night when there is spare capacity. I don't use torrents, just download from paid file-hosting areas.

I never leave downloads running during the business day. That would be stuffing it up for others.
Pretty considerate huh?

In short I need to be able consume about 100-150 G a month
It leaves me with 3 choices
1) Sign up with a High Cap Service where I am buying the 150G so no-one can whinge
b) Sign up uncapped with an ISP that chokes after 60G
c) Sign up uncapped with an ISP that reserves their rights after 200G

The point I was trying to make is that AHs choking means that their 4Mb uncapped product is not really a 4Mb uncapped product.

I know about this now so i can make my choices.

 

[Biscuit1018]

Well interestingly, if you scan which ISPs are receiving complaints about speeds and poor performance, they all are on the same backbone supplier: Internet Solutions (IS). This would be Afrihost,Myisp,Axxess,Imagine......(the article in this thread also shows this)

So somewhere one has to wonder how much blame is actually IS and how much is the ISP-reseller...

The only ISP which seems to have people raving about their speeds and performance -consistently- since uncapped was launched, is MWEB, and they're not using IS.....

Decent point although I am pretty sure they do buy some of their bandwidth from IS. Of course they buy from SEACOM directly and from other sources

 

[PAYBACK]

Ok, but you need to read my entire post.
I was, up to the announcement of uncapped buying 100G a month.
So mate I was paying for the 100G I downloaded.

I hoped that Uncapped meant uncapped so I could move 100 odd G without choking.
I need the 4M speed for day time business.

Also a lot of my stuff is business. Email traffic accounts for a whole lot.
All our business applications are in the cloud. Hosting bills galore.
I backup ((& restore) documents, spreadsheets etc. via the Net.
Thats all business and accounts for a decent number.

Private surfing does not account for much.
As for the geeky downloads well I do download a fair amount but I do them strictly on the week-end or late at night when there is spare capacity. I don't use torrents, just download from paid file-hosting areas.

I never leave downloads running during the business day. That would be stuffing it up for others.
Pretty considerate huh?

In short I need to be able consume about 100-150 G a month
It leaves me with 3 choices
1) Sign up with a High Cap Service where I am buying the 150G so no-one can whinge
b) Sign up uncapped with an ISP that chokes after 60G
c) Sign up uncapped with an ISP that reserves their rights after 200G

The point I was trying to make is that AHs choking means that their 4Mb uncapped product is not really a 4Mb uncapped product.

I know about this now so i can make my choices.

Fair enough Biscuit didn't mean to go off on a tangent, but in a lot of cases you will find guys abusing the system which is unfair IMO. I suppose uncapped ADSL can be likened to a "eat all you want buffet" eventually you'll get full BUT you'll still get the fat kid in the corner stuffing his face.

 

[wapretorius]

Well interestingly, if you scan which ISPs are receiving complaints about speeds and poor performance, they all are on the same backbone supplier: Internet Solutions (IS). This would be Afrihost,Myisp,Axxess,Imagine......(the article in this thread also shows this)

So somewhere one has to wonder how much blame is actually IS and how much is the ISP-reseller...

The only ISP which seems to have people raving about their speeds and performance -consistently- since uncapped was launched, is MWEB, and they're not using IS.....

It is 01h30 Thursday in the morning and I ran a little speedtest.net test.

Afrihost:
download: +/- 1.5 Mb/s
upload: +/- 0.42 Mb/s
ping : +/- 31ms

Axxess:
download: +/- 3.6 Mb/s
upload: +/- 0.42 Mb/s
ping : +/- 29ms

Since I have changed my Afihost account from capped to uncapped, my speed has dropped from 4mb link to a 1mb link. I would have loved to test MWEB at the same time.

Over the easter weekend I ave around 2mb/s. Is it just me or is the service going backwards?

Just other useless info:
When I was on capped, I ave 50-70Gb.
I am just over 30Gb... If my connection speeds continues to sux, I might get 90Gb a month on uncapped....

 

[Kapow]

At the end of the day I would prefer "certain cap throttling", If I know that at exactly 30gig my line speed would be halved, its fine if the 1st 30 gigs were provided at top service.
My reason: I used to run cybersmart 3gig @R125 (which was the cheapest when I got internet) and if later had to add 1gig @R70 which came to a total of R195 for 4gigs. To tell the truth looking at yesterday R200 for even 10gig is mind blowing for the average user!!!
P.S. NB!!!!! In no way does my post justify today's Internet prices! Just because its better doesn't mean its right!! POWER TO THE INTERNET USER!!!

 

[topitsolutions]

Since I have changed my Afihost account from capped to uncapped, my speed has dropped from 4mb link to a 1mb link. I would have loved to test MWEB at the same time.

Over the easter weekend I ave around 2mb/s. Is it just me or is the service going backwards?

Just other useless info:
When I was on capped, I ave 50-70Gb.
I am just over 30Gb... If my connection speeds continues to sux, I might get 90Gb a month on uncapped....

Yea, my connection seems hopelessly throttled/shaped during the morning and day, the only time it seems unshaped is later in the evening. Granted i'm only on 512 line but still I was getting much better speeds on my capped line. It sux big time.

 

[LCBXX]

This still irritates the crap out of me, using @lantic as an example:

Uncapped 384Kb incl. ADSL line, excl. Telkom line rental = R339
Uncapped 512Kb incl. ADSL line, excl. Telkom line rental = R589
5GB Capped 384K incl. ADSL line, excl. Telkom line rental = R389
10GB Capped 384K incl. ADSL line, excl. Telkom line rental = R649

What gives?