Printer Help Needed

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Assume a office of 20 people

What printer is the most ideal?

Wireless is a must, Scan and Copy is a must as well.

I have the following, the Epson ink tank appears to be by far the best concidering running costs, any drawback about ink that I am missing?

Sasmung + Laser Cartridge
http://www.pcshopper.co.za/products/samsung-sl-m2070fw-mono-laser-4-in-1-wireless-printer/9547

http://www.pcshopper.co.za/products/samsung-mlt-d111l-high-capacity-black-laser-toner-cartridge/9326

Epson Ink Tank + Ink
http://pcshopper.storefront.co.za/p...nk-tank-system-4-in-1-printer-c11ce53402/8259

http://pcshopper.storefront.co.za/products/epson-t6641-black-70ml-ink-bottle-c13t66414a/8303


Something else?
 
I have an Epson Ink Tank Printer and will never go back to the norman ink jet types.

It all depends on your printing needs as well.
 
Dammit a yes to both.

I read ink is more expensive than petrol, @lexor any comment what it cost to fill the ink tank full?
 
geezer said:
We purchased the Samsung mono laser about 2 weeks ago. Too soon to really comment on, but the wi-fi printing works great! My wife prints directly from her phone to this printer.

This printer currently is on special at Makro for R2500 which includes an additional toner cartridge as well. https://www.makro.co.za/computing-a...4-in-1-mono-laser-printer-plus-toner-272745EA
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Those are great for home use when you print a few things every now and then, in an office environment it becomes expensive due to the low toner yields.
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
Those are great for home use when you print a few things every now and then, in an office environment it becomes expensive due to the low toner yields.
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That was my thoughts exactly hence why I think the ink tank might be the one since 4000 pages per refill sounds pretty good to me?
 
look at HP printers that use the HP 970XL cartridge.


yield approx 9200.

various printer models 3-1, 4-1
great network functionality on the bigger printers.
monthly duty cycle should be sufficient for mentioned office size.

colour 971xl, approx 6600, seperate cartridges.
 
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Venomous said:
look at HP printers that use the HP 970XL cartridge.


yield approx 9200.

various printer models 3-1, 4-1
great network functionality on the bigger printers.
monthly duty cycle should be sufficient for mentioned office size.

colour 971xl, approx 6600, seperate cartridges.
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Thanks. Will have a look.
 
Thor187 said:
Any answers to this:

Ink vs Laser.
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with where ink technology has gone too, that is a not a point to consider anymore.


ink cartridges use to have a higher cost per page than toner. that has changed, at least on higher capacity cartridges.


the only point to remember: toner is dry so if the printer is likely to stand for extended periods then toner is better. Say for home use. The 970xl cartridges are over kill and likely to dry from lack of use.
But with 10+ people using it, it is likely to be regularly used.


So for your purposes either high ink or toner yield is the important factor.
 
Venomous said:
with where ink technology has gone too, that is a not a point to consider anymore.


ink cartridges use to have a higher cost per page than toner. that has changed, at least on higher capacity cartridges.


the only point to remember: toner is dry so if the printer is likely to stand for extended periods then toner is better. Say for home use. The 970xl cartridges are over kill and likely to dry from lack of use.
But with 10+ people using it, it is likely to be regularly used.


So for your purposes either high ink or toner yield is the important factor.
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Sweet thank you so much for the reply that does clear up quite a bit of confusion/myths about ink vs laser pro's and cons
 
Thor187 said:
Dammit a yes to both.

@lexor any comment what it cost to fill the ink tank full?
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Since buying the printer I never had the need to buy any ink yet !!! ( bought the printer about 20 months ago ).

Ink bottles about R120 the last time I checked.

In box was 2x black and 1x of each colour ink ( 70ml each) .

With a normal inkjet I would have spend at least R2000/R2500 at this stage on ink.
 
6 or so months ago I did some research to buy a printer for my small business. I compared Epson ink tank, a HP Officejet (ink) and a HP laserjet, all of them high end printers with network, wireless, copy, scan etc.

On initial purchase price the Epson costs more than double what the HP ink costs and R500 or so more than the laser.

On replacement ink cost the Epson beats the other 2 hands down, a set of replacement ink bottles will cost less than half the price of a set of cartrages for the Officejet and almost 10 times less than a set of replacement toners for the laser.

On price per print again the Epson beats the others hands down, 0.04c for black and 0.10c for colour, where the other 2 goes over 0.50c black and over R1 and R3 for colour.

On claimed page yield per refill or cartrage the Epson once again destroys the other 2, with its yield per refill more than double what the other 2 claim for black and more than 3 times what the other 2 claim for colour.

I never purchased a printer in the end as we moved in to a office block with a big communal machine, so can't give personal experience.

I did read someware that the Epson Ink tank's print head / nozzle thingy can be a problem if you don't use the printer regularly because if it blocks up you must basically chuck the printer, where with a traditional inkjet the nozzle is part of the cartrage so gets replaced every time. I can't confirm this however and don't know if the Epson's print head / nozzle might be serviceable / replaceable, but this should anyway not be a issue in a office environment with +-20 users.

Depending how much the users in the office have to print, your companies budget etc, have you considered leasing a bigger more of a industrial machine? I heard a while ago that the lease option might work out cheaper in the long run in some cases. From what I remember those deals are structured as a amount per month say R5000 for the machine including 10000 prints, then an additional charge of R1 per page if you go over that, advantage is that it includes services, new toner, in some cases even includes the paper.
Look at your options, carefully work out how much you guys print, what it will cost in paper, ink, occasional services, downtime etc.
 
bigboy529 said:
I did read someware that the Epson Ink tank's print head / nozzle thingy can be a problem if you don't use the printer regularly because if it blocks up you must basically chuck the printer, where with a traditional inkjet the nozzle is part of the cartrage so gets replaced every time. I can't confirm this however and don't know if the Epson's print head / nozzle might be serviceable / replaceable, but this should anyway not be a issue in a office environment with +-20 users.
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Anybody remember Canon BJ300/BJ330? Sort of ink tank system like Epson. It had such problems with drying out heads, it had to be cleaned up very frequent. Other than that it was great cost saving. Cost of replacing printing head was very high.
 
20 person office on a single consumer grade printer? Bold strategy & possibly lots of this:

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More seriously though - consider print volume per person. Some jobs have people averaging 100+ pages a day, others just need to print a report once a month so really depends. If you're on the low end you could probably get away with a consumer one if you accept that it probably won't last long & frustrate the hell out of everyone.

bigboy529 said:
Depending how much the users in the office have to print, your companies budget etc, have you considered leasing a bigger more of a industrial machine? I heard a while ago that the lease option might work out cheaper in the long run in some cases.
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Yup - the bigger companies lease them. Bit of a different ballgame though...they're generally designed for 75-100k pages a month. So roughly 50 very heavy users.

Thor187 said:
any drawback about ink that I am missing?
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On some you can't highlight without it smudging.
 
We ended up with the Samsung.

So far so good

All 20 connectes via wifi and it works like a charm.

As for the print volume yea it's more reports every now and again so not too heavy, there will be heavy days but barely go through a paper bag a month.

In highnsight the Epson would have been the better choice regarding running costs, but all in all everyone is quite happy with the printer.

(they ordered it without my knowledge, lel)
 
They should ask themselves one question: Can you refill Samsung tonner cartridges and how much?
Most of cost saving comes from refilling original cartridges.
 
sajunky said:
They should ask themselves one question: Can you refill Samsung tonner cartridges and how much?
Most of cost saving comes from refilling original cartridges.
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That's the problem, Samsung laser, 1000 sheets, R800 per cartridge.
 
HavocXphere said:
20 person office on a single consumer grade printer? Bold strategy & possibly lots of this:

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More seriously though - consider print volume per person. Some jobs have people averaging 100+ pages a day, others just need to print a report once a month so really depends. If you're on the low end you could probably get away with a consumer one if you accept that it probably won't last long & frustrate the hell out of everyone.


Yup - the bigger companies lease them. Bit of a different ballgame though...they're generally designed for 75-100k pages a month. So roughly 50 very heavy users.


On some you can't highlight without it smudging.
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From what I remember not necessarily as big as 75 - 100 k pages per month, much much smaller also available on lease/rent agreements, so definatly a viable option and something to look in to.
 
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