Pure Racism

Ok fine larrychang. Which Black African country has a successful wealthy economy? Call me a racist pig or whatever you want but I know I am not and I have a darn good point.

I believe any person from whatever race given the same nurturing and education can do the same job. But considering that 100 years ago 95% of Africa was uneducated, uncivilised (by the rest of the world's standards) and essentially tribal it makes sense that it takes time to educate entire nations and learn how to run a massive economy which fits in with the way the rest of the world operates. Rome wasn't built in a day. Africa just needs time.
 
Oh well I was hoping for an enlightening answer. But hey there clearly isn't one. Is it racist to say Asians are generally better at maths than the rest of the world? Obviously not because it is true and everyone knows it. What if Asians were generally bad at maths. Then it would be racist to call it like it is. Point made.
 
Oh well I was hoping for an enlightening answer. But hey there clearly isn't one. Is it racist to say Asians are generally better at maths than the rest of the world? Obviously not because it is true and everyone knows it. What if Asians were generally bad at maths. Then it would be racist to call it like it is. Point made.
Dunno if its racist, but it is a a generalisation. IMHO, more a product of environment (education, culture, parental influence) than it is genetic that one nation or ethnicity might be better at something compared to others from other backgrounds.
 
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This is rubbish. I know lots of smart black people studying at UCT who I hope will sooner or later lead our country. There are blacks getting first honours in economics and finance. Should he not become the SARB governor or finance minister?

Barely wait until the new generation grows up...
 
ha ha ha ha ha...

Poor Malema, is he not getting his milkies?

I am African as much as anyone i was born here.

I'm sorry if Malema truly wants to be a African then he should get back to wearing animal hide and start using his feet to walk from place to place, since he is "AFRICAN" and considers us "europeans".

Another thing, what does he mean by minorities? As in white people? so now we are minorities, he better get a wake up call...
 
Oh well I was hoping for an enlightening answer. But hey there clearly isn't one. Is it racist to say Asians are generally better at maths than the rest of the world? Obviously not because it is true and everyone knows it. What if Asians were generally bad at maths. Then it would be racist to call it like it is. Point made.

your 'challenge' to list unfailed african states did not warrant a response. You clearly fail to realise your ignoring my respönse to your gratuitous prejudices above. African governance or the failure thereof is a different issue here (actually tim's post is insightful to an extent).
 
This is rubbish. I know lots of smart black people studying at UCT who I hope will sooner or later lead our country. There are blacks getting first honours in economics and finance. Should he not become the SARB governor or finance minister?

Barely wait until the new generation grows up...

No one is saying blacks are all stupid, we are just saying if you look at African leaders majority are very bad, in actual fact they are shocking and again nobody is saying that blacks should not run an economy. It is just being pointed out that black leaders have a tendency to do more harm than good and only care about money.

Please go research africa a bit and prove me wrong in saying black leaders are destructive. It is rather sad though for loads of black people to get that rep but sadly i fear by the time the new generation grows up Africa will not be able to recover.

Another thing and let me ask your opinion:

We can all see what robert mugabe has done to Zimbabwe right? Yet he walks into this country and gets a standing ovation. WHY?

You have the ANC for instance running this country so poorly yet all the blacks vote for them. WHY?

Explain to me why so many black people vote for ANC and why robert mugabe gets a standing ovation?

A white run country would not even allow the likes of robert mugabe to enter their country yet in Africa he gets standing ovations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is what makes me go nuts.
 
Killa (& senso) your entire argument is in agreement with malema (only replace black with white)
 
Yes but the difference is white's do not have a track record of destroying a continent.

I am not saying replace blacks with whites at all, i am saying put blacks into power that will run the country with some dignity and pride and not destroy the damn country.

Malema is saying take out the white man put any black in as long as they are black. There in lies your main problem, black Africa would rather have an uneducated greedy Cun^ as a leader than an educated white man.

If replacing the black leaders in Africa for white ones i would vote yes because Africa is a total mess purely because of the black leaders currently running the countries. As it stands i am against black leaders running any country because you just have to look at african countries to see what happens. Sadly i cannot speak for all the educated good honest black people in Africa because all i see is corrupt greedy destructive Black leaders in power.

Bad leaders look after other bad leaders in Africa so the good black people will never get a chance to run a country.

Sadly this is not racist but fact.

Mugabe is the worst case i have seen, Africa supports a man who has destroyed a once great country.
 
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Although it has abundant natural resources, Africa remains the world's poorest and most underdeveloped continent, due to a variety of causes that may include the spread of deadly diseases and viruses (notably HIV/AIDS and malaria), corrupt governments that have often committed serious human rights violations, failed central planning, high levels of illiteracy, lack of access to foreign capital, and frequent tribal and military conflict (ranging from guerrilla warfare to genocide).[51] According to the United Nations' Human Development Report in 2003, the bottom 25 ranked nations (151st to 175th) were all African.[52]

Poverty, illiteracy, malnutrition and inadequate water supply and sanitation, as well as poor health, affect a large proportion of the people who reside in the African continent. In August 2008, the World Bank[53] announced revised global poverty estimates based on a new international poverty line of $1.25 per day (versus the previous measure of $1.00). 80.5% of the Sub-Saharan Africa population was living on less than $2.50 (PPP) a day in 2005, compared with 85.7% for India.[54] The new figures confirm that sub-Saharan Africa has been the least successful region of the world in reducing poverty ($1.25 per day); some 50% of the population living in poverty in 1981 (200 million people), a figure that rose to 58% in 1996 before dropping to 50% in 2005 (380 million people). The average poor person in sub-Saharan Africa is estimated to live on only 70 cents per day, and was poorer in 2003 than he or she was in 1973 [55] indicating increasing poverty in some areas. Some of it is attributed to unsuccessful economic liberalization programs spearheaded by foreign companies and governments, but other studies and reports have cited bad domestic government policies more than external factors.[56][57][58]

From 1995 to 2005, Africa's rate of economic growth increased, averaging 5% in 2005. Some countries experienced still higher growth rates, notably Angola, Sudan and Equatorial Guinea, all three of which had recently begun extracting their petroleum reserves or had expanded their oil extraction capacity. In recent years, the People's Republic of China has built increasingly stronger ties with African nations. In 2007, Chinese companies invested a total of US$1 billion in Africa.[59]

Have a read there larry and tell me how anyone is being racist by saying black leaders have destroyed africa.

The saddest part of this whole thing is black leaders do all sorts of horrible things to their own kind. It amazes how they destroy countries yet people say o blah blah you are being racist, we are pointing out the obvious and some people i think are worried about being labeled racist by agreeing with this line of thought.

Even your mineral rich countries are a total mess because the government steals all the money.

I have no problem with a black man running a country as long as they try and make a success of it and do not destroy the country.
 
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Well said killa, I'm starting to enjoy your posts a lot nowadays. :)

I agree with you, if we had just one example of a good black leader within Africa I'd have SOME faith that blacks could do a good job....but we don't. And also, it's not a racist statement because when I look at Obama (a black leader), he was chosen to lead (and has done a very good job so far) the USA. So, it's pretty much just Africa that's cursed with corrupt, power-mad blacks.
 
You know, I usually have no time for mybb's resident anti-white larrychang, but you others are simply astounding. A white run country wouldn't let mugabe in? What kind of horse**** is that? Have your balls dropped yet? They let you guys through matric?

Killa, are you really REALLY so indoctrinated to believe a white man in Mugabe's position would act differently?

The only reason African leaders are so bad is because there are lots of white boys willing to offer them money for cheap raw materials. It's really as simple as that.

Economics 101: Without demand, there would be no will to supply.

Where do you think Mugabe's platinum smuggling shipments go to? Other African leaders who want platinum keychains? Where do the blood diamonds go to, African leaders who want to wear diamond necklaces? Where does the oil go to, Africans who wanted to zoom around from skyscraper to skyscraper in their Ferraris?

Wake the **** up, for Christ's sake. If the whites had left Africa alone, Africans would still be walking around in loinskins, getting eaten by lions and hunting wild animals for food.

They would have no guns, no cars, no heartfelt UN welfare bull****, no internet. In South Africa, there would be no ANC, no TV for Malema to gain a following on, no Zuma. But they would have been much better off. They would have lived a contented, simple living.

And please, don't attempt to paint me with the same brush as the whiteys with white-guilt. I don't give a wooden **** what my ancestors did to some black's. The ANC abuses the truth.

The white colonialists did ruin Africa for their own greed, and the West is still plundering through Africa, creating debt and a demand for bloodshed at ever doorstep, but without them, Malema wouldn't have a job or a cause. He'd just be another black man in Africa.
 
You really think a white government would have destroyed zimbabwe?

Strange before mugabe took over the country was awesome, so how does your theory work? Why did mugabe destroy a really great country why was it not destroyed before him?

Your theory is so flawed i do not think you passed matric mate :D.


There are widespread reports of systematic and escalating violations of human rights in Zimbabwe under the Mugabe administration and his party, ZANU-PF.

According to human rights organisations such as Amnesty International[59] and Human Rights Watch[60] the government of Zimbabwe violates the rights to shelter, food, freedom of movement and residence, freedom of assembly and the protection of the law. There have been alleged assaults on the media, the political opposition, civil society activists, and human rights defenders.

Notice how they mention under mugabe, maybe you should go read up about pre mugabe "Zimbabwe" before acting like an ass and saying any government would have the same thing.

So explain why mugabe took over a great thriving country if anyone would do what he has done? Wiki Zimbabwe if you are confused aeron
 
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Killa for all of Africa's resources you must realize that in instances like say Congo there are "whites" who prefer that country stays in conflict so it stays ripe for exploitation. And that's just one example. Sure the ***** stirrers are not short of corrupt African complicity, but the issue is a bit more complicated than your naive idealized analysis.
 
Oh my god. Are you guys being serious? A white-led country wouldn't allow that to happen? It's not about race, it's about education.

These 'facts' that people are stating are simply racist. Yes there have been African countries that have been led by greedy, corrupt dictators, but so have many countries around the world. And by the way, no matter how much I do indeed dislike the ANC and their policies, they haven't taken us down the road of other African countries. We're still a G20 country and we're hosting the most popular sport in our country.

Anyway I wonder how my black friends (who are first honour students, who are more smart and responsible than my white friends) will react when I tell them they can't lead this country cuz of their colour, due to 'factual' evidence on other African countries.
 
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Botswana has done a very good job so far.

There's also Angola (fastest rising economy in Africa at the moment), Mozambique, Namibia, Tanzania, Uganda, Kenya, Gabon and even Nigeria.

Zimbabwe, I rate, is also slowly beginning to change. I have faith in MDC (black led party btw) and they're doing a good job under the circumstances.
 
I am not saying a white government would be better, i am not saying white vs black i would just love to see the African countries doing well and it seems with African leaders it will never happen.
 
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It's not about race, it's about education.

Mugabe is very well educated but we all know how that turned out.

I think the problem is that in africa there is still the mindset that the chief/leader is king and can do whatever he likes. When people get into power they just hoard as much wealth as possible, and to hell with everybody else.

Until this way of thinking ends, nothing will change.
 
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