R8,500 data bill for Windows 10 updates

[Geoff.D]

HERE WE GO Take your pick.

And if you are really incapable of using Google: TRY THIS

What is it with persons on this forum that like to turn simple requests into personal battles??

There is absolutely no reason at all for you to make remarks such as the one above. So please withdraw this remark as it contributes nothing to a genuine discussion on what works and what does not regarding managing windows updates.

It is not as simple as it is made out to be. If it was there would not be so many "complaints" about persons being faced with all sorts of things that happen in the back ground as illustrated by the comment about Office 13 simply "assuming" a user wants to also back up the Outlook.pst file to one drive. It should be a user choice.

And yes we are aware of the links you have posted, BUT we are equally aware that some users have found these settings are neither permanent, nor do they prevent updates from happening in all circumstances.

 

[Geoff.D]

Windows 10 caught me out as well. Not the updates though but the stupid One Drive sync thing.

Turns out Office 2013 keeps its .pst file in the same folder that is synced to One Drive.

Only realized it was uploading my 8GB .pst file after it had done about 3GB :erm:

Interesting thanks. I have Office 2007 installed and I am sure that the .pst files are not stored in the same folders as one drive. But having said that, I have disabled one drive from starting automatically. As well as I do not use a MS account to log on to the PC only a local account, which means that MS cloud services do not start by themselves, neither does Store updates happen without first logging in with a MS account.

So there are many things that users can do to manage data usage on Win 10 Home specifically, if only MS took the trouble to make them aware of what can be done.

 

[Gudnews]

Who exactly is this "average Saffer" that owns a W10 device, but has no ADSL access??

I was never defending this guy to begin with. My issue is with the view seemingly held by many on here that high volume internet use is something within the grasp of your average South African.

Look at these numbers released by Vodacom last year( couldn't find this year's)

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/cellu...dacom-mobile-data-growth-in-south-africa.html

12m smart devices and average monthly use is 408MB on phones and 774MB on tablets.

And that's not even your average South African, just the ones who own a smart device.

 

[supersunbird]

Who exactly is this "average Saffer" that owns a W10 device, but has no ADSL access??

Everyone that had Windows 7 or 8 PC or laptop and had a nagging Windows 10 update thing and/or had "Install recommended updates the same as important updates" ticked. I wonder how many went OOB for that download.

 

[Geoff.D]

I didn't talk about it, but when you mention it, it is hacking, not 'setting'. When you hack registry you don't have any confirmation whether it work or not and any further update can ruin you bank account.

On this issue, I tried and results are as follow:
1. Disabling automatic updates (Windows update) service is temporary. It will be re-enabled after 10 minutes or so. It works the same on Pro and Home versions.
2. If you meant manual update settings in the Settings app, it is about some control over updating Windows when updates are already downloaded, in other words after tea in the bank.

Thanks for the info, will keep this in mind when faced with a PC and Win 10 Home.

Registry settings are not always "hacks". Some are tried and tested and hence can be given a bit of status by calling them "settings".

 

[BBSA]

all the network providers should have a way for you to OPT OUT OF OUT OF BUNDLE DATA

I'm sure they can, but Vodacom is too greedy to implement something like this. This is the main reason I have cancelled my Vodacom contract.

This is one reason I will support Telkom Mobile. Then your bundel is completed, it ask you what you want to do before it goes OOB.

 

[Zoomzoom]

What is it with persons on this forum that like to turn simple requests into personal battles??

There is absolutely no reason at all for you to make remarks such as the one above. So please withdraw this remark as it contributes nothing to a genuine discussion on what works and what does not regarding managing windows updates.

It is not as simple as it is made out to be. If it was there would not be so many "complaints" about persons being faced with all sorts of things that happen in the back ground as illustrated by the comment about Office 13 simply "assuming" a user wants to also back up the Outlook.pst file to one drive. It should be a user choice.

And yes we are aware of the links you have posted, BUT we are equally aware that some users have found these settings are neither permanent, nor do they prevent updates from happening in all circumstances.

get aggressive with me and I get aggressive back i.e. read the damn post I responded. I'm not a computer expert even less so a windows expert and I managed to turn mine off. And I certainly don't have to hand hold people who can't be bothered to google an answer to their question BEFORE taking a tone on a forum.

 

[Geoff.D]

get aggressive with me and I get aggressive back i.e. read the damn post I responded. I'm not a computer expert even less so a windows expert and I managed to turn mine off. And I certainly don't have to hand hold people who can't be bothered to google an answer to their question BEFORE taking a tone on a forum.

Unbelievable! My original response was pretty clear and polite. Al I wanted to know if you had found something that the rest of us had not found. So you then turn it into a battle.

I think you are the one "taking a tone on the forum".

If you do not want to help others then it is simple, stay out of threads where help is being asked for...

Some of us are experts and others like me, are simply building up our knowledge base so they we can help others....

 

[Zoomzoom]

Unbelievable! My original response was pretty clear and polite. Al I wanted to know if you had found something that the rest of us had not found. So you then turn it into a battle.

I think you are the one "taking a tone on the forum".

If you do not want to help others then it is simple, stay out of threads where help is being asked for...

Some of us are experts and others like me, are simply building up our knowledge base so they we can help others....

Oh please, if you think this:

The issue is how to manage the update process with WIN 10 Home, so please indicate what version of Win 10 you have and how you went about disabling auto updates and please indicate if the solution is permanent, and not just delaying the updates.

wasn't a sarcastic attempt to refute my statement by trying to show me up then I have nothing further to say.

Actually I have nothing further to say regardless.

 

[KleinBoontjie]

So after years of complaints and media coverage, is Vodacom still ashes on this issue? Still not willing to reduce OOB rates? Still showing that they're more than eager to trample on their loyal customers for their investors and directors?
Why not stopped at R2000 again and notified customer again.

 

[Drake2007]

At R2 / MB that's over 4GB of updates... seems a lot.

but then what Do I know.

I got to "play" with Win8 for the first time yesterday fixing it, ( simple un-installed the anti-virus *** that bogged down the laptop)
my last Microsoft OS was Vista 64Bit, now I'm on Debian and have totally lost all familiarity with Windows.

apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -Y just sorts out all of my applications. I really have no need for Microsofts products anymore.


Oh and BTW I was an MCSE.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Enable "metered connection" in Windows 10.

Except that you need Windows 10 to do that...and it was acquiring windows 10 that ate the data.

****

Oh I see it could be updates to Win10 itself.

 

[Geoff.D]

Oh please, if you think this:



wasn't a sarcastic attempt to refute my statement by trying to show me up then I have nothing further to say.

Actually I have nothing further to say regardless.

I am sorry of you thought it was a sarcastic attempt, it was not. I am genuinely interested in why some struggle with preventing Win 10 Home from updating automatically.

 

[jannievanzyl]

Dum dum dum dum dum dum OOB SHARK!

If vodacon had any compassion they would work out the price for that in databundles and reduce the bill. Eg, if you used 5gb OOB then tell the client they went OOB by a huge margin then sell them a retrospective 5GB bundle for R399

Not that they would ever do that

Often do that if the OOB was unintentional.

 

[Thor]

Define "unintentional" so I can go to the shop next time and actually test this has I highly doubt it.

 

[Splinter]

Oh PLEASE...what a load of BS.

It annoys me no end that people own the latest gadgets to play with, but then claim ignorance or/and poverty when the schit hits the fan. If ADSL and Fibre is still "a luxury" then so is a smart device.

And all the potential social warriors can fuk off in advance.....

Actually, I will challenge you on this. Not on the poverty thing, but there are a fair few of us who are older and did not not grow up with all this technology. And yes, make mistakes. And yes, there are older folks who are tech savvy. But disparaging someone because you assume the level of knowledge they should have....

By the way - have a colleague at work who has been fighting Vodacom because of being overcharged even though he set a limit.

Their excuse? Once the limit is reached, it takes a while for notification of the limit being reached to register. So all traffic between these two times was charged for...

 

[Zoomzoom]

I am sorry of you thought it was a sarcastic attempt, it was not. I am genuinely interested in why some struggle with preventing Win 10 Home from updating automatically.

I genuinely did, so I'm also sorry I reacted.

I honestly have no idea. I'm not a techie person, I followed the instructions on the net and my updates are off.

 

[BBSA]

Their excuse? Once the limit is reached, it takes a while for notification of the limit being reached to register. So all traffic between these two times was charged for...

But yet, if you are on pre-paid they can cut you off immediate

It is just a money-making scheme from Vodacom

 

[Geoff.D]

I genuinely did, so I'm also sorry I reacted.

I honestly have no idea. I'm not a techie person, I followed the instructions on the net and my updates are off.

Thanks for confirming. Glad the air has been cleared between us.

 

[ToxicBunny]

"Windows 10 is the best OS ever and why would one want to suspend its updates? It's so good it's worth R8500" - the Win10 is awesome crowd

Anyway, one doesn't have these OOB issues with Telkom...

Actually most people are more going along the lines of....

"Your line was softlocked, you then explicitly requested it be unlocked... Anything that happened after that is your own damn fault and stop crying to the press about your own damn stupidity"