Racial Classification

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I'm glad I'm not affiliated to Africa by my racial classification or anything else.

Why would I care if I'm labeled "white"? That sounds like a compliment to me...

"African" just makes me think of Zimbabwe and the Congo.
 
And a black albino?

Using racial characteristics as a milestone for demarcation is plain stupid.
As was shown over and over with the Apartheid "reclassification" of people.

Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat its failures.

You clearly did not read my previous posts.
 

"So, an african woman has a child with a white man. Is the child African?
What if the mans parents were also mixed race?
What if the African woman had a white grandfather?"

- If it can be seen that the child is not a "clear-cut" case, in other words based on his skin colour alone, it is not clear that he is an African, then the parents of the child can decide his classification (assuming he is under 18). How many times must I repeat this? Don't you guys read what I post?

"So we then resort to classification based on measurements of hair curliness and the shape of the kids nose?"

- No. There is none of that. Your insistence of ridiculous technicalities will not work.

"Remember Capetonian688 - you have already said the "skin must be black". Can the child have Nordic bone structure and a black skin and then qualify?
Or is it also permissible to have African facial features and a whiter skin?
Is there a middle ground where the two compensate?"

- If the skin is black, he is African. If it is less than black, and it is thus clear that he is mixed race, then refer to procedure above.

You people make it seem that there are millions of cases like the above (i.e. doubtful race). As I said: there are very few cases. And because there are very few cases, your reasoning for nullifying skin colour as indication for racial classification, loses weight.

"What about the 5% - do they not count?"

- I already explained many times now, what to do in those cases.

"I suppose since whites account for 5% of the population they do not count either?"

- On what grounds do you say that "they do not count"? I do not understand your statement "do not count". What do you mean?

"People over the age of 70 may account for 5% of the population - again they do not count by your definition."

- My definition has got nothing to do with "do not count". My definition indicates when to use skin colour as racial classification, and when to use alternate methods. "Do not count" has got nothing to do with the procedure. No-one is exempted from the racial classification procedure.

"When someone repairs your car, 95% will be good enough for you - you do not really need the other 5% of the car sprayed."

- Again, it has nothing to do with "good enough" or "not good enough". Do not make warped statements on things I did not say or imply. Please do not do this again. I am sharp enough to pick it up and will action on it each time it is tried on me.

It seems you love to make a warped statement based on a false implication of what I have said, and then continue analysing that in many following sentences. Because your original statement based on what I said, was false, all else that follows in your post, based on it, is nonsense. So I just have to point out to you the fact that your original statement ("count / do not count") in this case was false, and not have to explain any of the rest of your sentences that are based on that. So please do not ask me to explain any of the rest of your sentences, i.e. use phrases like "still waiting for your explanation of WHO are qualified to determine if person is good enough for African classification" (this was your last sentence). I already refuted your first statement, so the rest are nullified. Please do not attempt this. But you are not the only one that is trying this.
 
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Just by the way, for everyone:

Capetonian688 = Shaka.

If you are referring to Shaka Zulu, I can promise you that I am not him (for obvious reasons), nor do I aspire to be like him. Why do you claim I am him? I am myself and do not try to be any Zulu king from times gone past. What is your reason? Please answer.
 
I dont believe the moniker "African" is anyone's - least of all the South African government's - to give away or withhold. If you're born in Africa you're African.

I suppose you can add on any modifier you like to describe your descent if you must as some Americans do but I dont subscribe to that practice either. At the end of the day I'm an American - my lineage is irrelevant.
 
I dont believe the moniker "African" is anyone's - least of all the South African government's - to give away or withhold. If you're born in Africa you're African.

I suppose you can add on any modifier you like to describe your descent if you must as some Americans do but I dont subscribe to that practice either. At the end of the day I'm an American - my lineage is irrelevant.
For me it's pretty much clear cut, I think it's Moederloos that has the same view as me. African is another way to say black, sounds dof but that's what I think.

Too much semantics being discussed and frankly just a waste of energy.
 
While you are right to an extent, the problem here is not what you think, but rather what others think of you.

Lol - I don't let my life be influenced by everyone else in that way thank you. Discrimination will be around long after I die, so i refuse to waste my time on it.
 
I'm glad I'm not affiliated to Africa by my racial classification or anything else.

Why would I care if I'm labeled "white"? That sounds like a compliment to me...

"African" just makes me think of Zimbabwe and the Congo.

:/
 
And he seems to know a thing or two about whats what on the ANC funny farm, would not surprise me if he was a fat ANC cat himself.

Sitting on the internet all day, instead of doing things that normal goverment officials do. :rolleyes: On the taxpayers money :eek:
 
I dont believe the moniker "African" is anyone's - least of all the South African government's - to give away or withhold. If you're born in Africa you're African.

I suppose you can add on any modifier you like to describe your descent if you must as some Americans do but I dont subscribe to that practice either. At the end of the day I'm an American - my lineage is irrelevant.

Lets be clear: I understand your reasoning, and I respect your right to form your opinion around that. All I want to point out, is that whenever you fill in a public form, and you happen to have the following options:

x AFRICAN
x COLOURED
x ASIAN
x WHITE

and your skin is white but you mark yourself as "AFRICAN", you are breaking the law because you are providing inaccurate information by not marking yourself "WHITE", and you can expect the present official to correct it for you.

Bear in mind that these options are the OFFICIAL CLASSIFICATION of the Government of South Africa.
 
and your skin is white but you mark yourself as "AFRICAN", you are breaking the law because you are providing inaccurate information by not marking yourself "WHITE", and you can expect the present official to correct it for you.
What do I care? Irrespective of my skin colour I'm not African. ;)
 
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