Rainbow Chicken on a knife edge

foreign industries won't be able to compete too, if they didn't receive subsidies

I've said it many times before, our farmers receive little to no support or protection from the government, it is a major failing especially when you consider the support and protection these foreign dumpers receive

And who funds the government? The 5odd mil taxpayers and businesses.

While i want to support local stuff, if i have to pay more or pay more via a tax that funds em id rather buy elsewhere.

People always expect government to help, ie the tax payers have to cough up.

How about relooking the business model, costs , mechanical etc.
 
And who funds the government? The 5odd mil taxpayers and businesses.

While i want to support local stuff, if i have to pay more or pay more via a tax that funds em id rather buy elsewhere.

People always expect government to help, ie the tax payers have to cough up.

How about relooking the business model, costs , mechanical etc.

Agreed. If it's available at a lower price, that's where I'll buy.
 
Chicken breasts have come down in price too.

Remember back in 2012 / 2013 they were going for nearly R99/kg, now I can get them at any PNP for about 59/kg - 69/kg
 
The real reason our chicken farmers are struggling, and it’s not about imports

• Imported poultry makes up only 14% of all the chicken consumed nationally; this is simply too small an amount to have any serious effect on local industry.

• The real challenge facing local producers relates to the high cost of feed due to the drought. Maize prices are expected to drop later this year and this will have a significant‚ positive effect on local producers’ profits.

• Protectionist policies will not fix the local industry but rather paper over the cracks of their inadequate business planning and management.

• South African poultry does not have a successful export policy‚ which would take up the excess production capacity. The EU would be an ideal destination for duty-free exports.

Putting to rest some lies.
 
In fairness they are quoting the chairman of the meat importers association. I wouldn't expect a completely balanced opinion there. Not that the local producers don't peddle lies, it's just worth adding the context.

Well definitely more plausible than the rest of the brine SA's being fed.
 
Well definitely more plausible than the rest of the brine SA's being fed.

How so? The argument that Europe is effectively dumping unwanted parts of the bird in SA at low prices because any recovery is just cream on top makes no sense because...
 
So the Rainbow braai packs in Game are now 1,7kg, down from 1.8kg and previously 2kg. 30% of that is brine. So you paying for 500g of water and 1.2kg chicken if my calculation is right.

Damn, that must make it a serious safety/explosion risk dropping those pieces of chicken in a deep fryer.

Screw the locals suppliers, they were quick to cheat the local consumers with underhanded tactics to bolster their profits, but cry fowl (foul) when the consumers take their money elsewhere.
 
And who funds the government? The 5odd mil taxpayers and businesses.

While i want to support local stuff, if i have to pay more or pay more via a tax that funds em id rather buy elsewhere.

People always expect government to help, ie the tax payers have to cough up.

How about relooking the business model, costs , mechanical etc.


I'm not even going to bother with this, perhaps read up on the history of agriculture in SA and globally before commenting. It is clear you have no idea what you are talking about.
 
I'm not even going to bother with this, perhaps read up on the history of agriculture in SA and globally before commenting. It is clear you have no idea what you are talking about.

History.... maybe thats part problem there. Agri in sa is stuck in ways of the past.
 
History.... maybe thats part problem there. Agri in sa is stuck in ways of the past.

so you haven't checked whats happening over seas?

do you think farmers overseas receive no subsidies and no protection from government? specifically the ones dumping their goods here
 
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History.... maybe thats part problem there. Agri in sa is stuck in ways of the past.

Other countries give agri sectors (esp those European countries and the USA) subsidies and import protection, but if SA wants to do the same, they mustn't because they should not follow the first world example?
 
• The real challenge facing local producers relates to the high cost of feed due to the drought. Maize prices are expected to drop later this year and this will have a significant‚ positive effect on local producers’ profits.

So this means the profit margin will be higher, and not chicken prices dropping?

And chicken dropping prices soaring?
 
Local poultry industry buckling http://www.iol.co.za/business-report/companies/local-poultry-industry-buckling-7952079

Field said RCL Foods had strengthened its resolve to speedily implement a new business model which would include the reduction of its Hammarsdale operation, in KwaZulu-Natal, to a single shift from the beginning of March. This would eliminate a portion of loss making individually quick frozen (IQF) mixed portion product, which declined 50 percent over a three-year period.

:whistle::whistle::whistle:
 
Feathers fly in Parly public hearing on poultry crisis

Parliament - The open animosity between chicken importers and producers intensified on Thursday as both blamed each other for the crisis facing the poultry industry in South Africa.

The South African Poultry Association (Sapa) and the Association of Meat Importers and Exporters (Amie) joined unions and government departments in briefing Parliament's portfolio committee on trade and industry during public hearings on the crisis. Sapa argued that the EU was illegally and unfairly dumping bone-in chicken portions in South Africa, and that if government does not intervene and possibly increase tariffs, the jobs bloodbath will continue across the industry value chain.

"You can't stop behaving badly that's why you catch them so they stop behaving badly. We can't stop the Europeans dumping, we can only catch them," said Kevin Lovell, Sapa chief executive. In a cheeky response to a question from an MP, Lowell took aim at Amie.

"Who benefits from the dumping? It's very hard for us to know for sure. It's a combination of the importer and the retailer...some importers actually live in Nettleton Road, which is the richest road in South Africa..." "Do importers take away jobs? Yes clearly we demonstrated that."

Amie hit back, saying the crisis facing the industry and the possible resultant job losses was not due to imports.

"Jobs losses cannot be based on dumping, the job losses are based on inefficiencies in their operations," said Amie chairman Georg Southey. Southey said the pressure being felt in the poultry industry was "self-inflicted" and continued to argue strongly against another safeguard or increase in anti-dumping duties.

"The safeguard should not be put in to protect an uncompetitive and unproductive industry," he said. "Our request is not to give protection to an industry that may not need it." Country Bird Holdings (CBH) chief executive Marthinus Stander insisted the industry was "on the brink of collapse".
CBH, South Africa's third largest poultry producer, gave notice in August last year that it would close down its Mahikeng abattoir, which it acquired in 2006 when the previous company Agrichicks went into liquidation, employing about 1 500 people.

More at: http://www.iol.co.za/business-report/feathers-fly-in-parly-public-hearing-on-poultry-crisis-8315978
 
It's becoming a game of chicken for local producers

Johannesburg – South African retailers who are selling dumped chicken at prices marginally cheaper or at similar prices to that of locally produced birds will not only contribute to the destruction of the industry but are putting the health of their consumers at risk.

Local farmers have to comply with a long list of requirements to ensure the chicken that goes to market is safe and traceable.

But when retailers buy dumped chicken, they don’t know where it comes from and whether it has been refrozen after being repackaged.

This, according to Chris Schutte, chief executive of Astral, the largest chicken producer in the country, poses a potentially devastating health risk.

“We’ve just seen with the Brazilian meat scandal what can go wrong. And in a country where we have unemployment of 27% and rising, it makes no sense for retailers to support the European industry at the cost of their own customer base.”

Mike Schussler, chief economist at Economists.co.za, says retailers are worsening the problem by allowing price suppression.

“Preventing local suppliers from adjusting prices according to agricultural circumstances is not fair and causes irreparable harm.

“In the long-term, it’s of great economic importance that local business supports the local industry.”

Shoprite spokesperson Sarita van Wyk says the chain procures more than 98% of its chickens from local farmers. “The reality, however, is that the constant high demand for chicken outstrips supply in South Africa. We have to import very small quantities when needed.

“The amount of imported chicken we sell in our stores accounts for less than 2% of the total amount of chicken imported into South Africa. In compliance with labelling regulations, a label identifying the country of origin is affixed to the product.”

The procurement of locally produced products will always be a priority for Shoprite, she says.

Schutte, however, says it’s simply not true that the South African industry is unable to meet the demand.

“We not only can produce enough chicken to fulfil the per capita demand, we have substantial spare capacity. It surprises me that a local retailer would choose to buy foreign dumped chicken when here at home there is more than adequate supply.

“Why would RCL Foods scale down production if the demand outstripped the supply?”

More at: http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/its-becoming-a-game-of-chicken-for-local-producers-8339590
 
So easy for retailers to sell foreign chicken because they don't have to state the source on packaging, or it's not enforced if they do have to.

Change legislation to enforce origin of food sources like meat and fish thereby presenting the choice to consumers to buy proudly South African. It's not rocket science.
 
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Come on ANC, EFF...where are you? Oh, just busy putting more people out of work...come on ANC, eff, the country cannot afford people to have jobs. Put more of them out of their working misery.
 
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