Royal Prank Nurse

pampoenskyf said:
maybe I'm uninformed, but please tell me who was bullied by the DJs
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Quotemine much?
I didn't say they bullied her. I said it REMINDS me of people who bully others ....

But they did misrepresent themselves. Let's call a spade a spade ... they plainly lied!
It think it has been established that she was not from England, so for her to recognize the accents as fake would have been difficult. And again. Do you really think that she would say. "What, The Queen? I'm sorry, I'm not transferring you."

It was a prank yes, but it put her in serious trouble and stress. A 'normal' person being put on the front page of almost every tabloid in England, recognized on the street, possibly in hot water with management, colleagues who laugh at you.... etc. etc. It just got too much. All because of a PRANK! Again. Those DJ's should take responsibility. They might not have intended it, but it did eventually lead to the death of this person.
 
CommonSense said:
Quotemine much?
I didn't say they bullied her. I said it REMINDS me of people who bully others ....

But they did misrepresent themselves. Let's call a spade a spade ... they plainly lied!
It think it has been established that she was not from England, so for her to recognize the accents as fake would have been difficult. And again. Do you really think that she would say. "What, The Queen? I'm sorry, I'm not transferring you."

It was a prank yes, but it put her in serious trouble and stress. A 'normal' person being put on the front page of almost every tabloid in England, recognized on the street, possibly in hot water with management, colleagues who laugh at you.... etc. etc. It just got too much. All because of a PRANK! Again. Those DJ's should take responsibility. They might not have intended it, but it did eventually lead to the death of this person.
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I think you're making way to much of an innocent prank. Two people who wanted to find out how the princess is doing. You think the thought of a suicidal nurse cross their minds? Again, blame the media for this if you want to blame someone.
Maybe the nurse had other issues as well...
 
pampoenskyf said:
I think you're making way to much of an innocent prank. Two people who wanted to find out how the princess is doing. You think the thought of a suicidal nurse cross their minds? Again, blame the media for this if you want to blame someone.
Maybe the nurse had other issues as well...
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Pampoen, she might have had other issues, she might not have had. But prank calls in my view are juvenile in any case. Be that as it may, this one should not have happened.

All I am saying is that everyone in society should start taking responsibility for their actions. In this case the end was a suicide. It can be argued that they didn't directly cause her to do whatever she did, but they were the instigators of the snowball. So they should take some responsibility.

We are all quick to lament when politicians don't take responsibility when they do something wrong. So why should the same standards not be applicable to each and everyone of us?

I do take responsibility for my actions. No matter how humiliating it might be. It is my belief that if everyone took responsibility we would have a better society. No frivolous lawsuits because one didn't look where they were walking etc.

Would you agree that is a common sense approach?
 
pampoenskyf said:
I think you're making way to much of an innocent prank. Two people who wanted to find out how the princess is doing. You think the thought of a suicidal nurse cross their minds? Again, blame the media for this if you want to blame someone.
Maybe the nurse had other issues as well...
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they had no business phoning and enquiring about her, be it in prank form or not.
 
""being seen in a 'serious light', then you can be damn sure that internally there were major ructions.""

You nailed it on the head. They came down on her, very hard and I think that's the reason for committing suicide.
 
Very sad about the nurse. Cannot imagined the pressure she must have been under. Just as an aside- are these the same two DJs that Simpson pranked with his 'Tom Cruise' interview?
 
pampoenskyf said:
Exactly! She didn't do anything wrong and the hospital supported her in this. Maybe she was just a weak individual, over sensitive etc. I'm sorry for her, but this is not the fault of the Aussies -- I think they showed extraordinary initiative which is quite rare for them
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You don't prank call a hospital - ever, it's not right and it's not funny. There is no initiative shown, just stupidity. Let's phone the fire department and report a non existent fire while we're at it or call an ambulance out to a non existent address, so funny
 
joelus said:
You don't prank call a hospital - ever, it's not right and it's not funny. There is no initiative shown, just stupidity. Let's phone the fire department and report a non existent fire while we're at it or call an ambulance out to a non existent address, so funny
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I pranked call a fire department waaaay back when I was a kid. When caller IDs still doesn't exist..boy did I got into trouble.
 
CommonSense said:
Sign a petition to get these two morons fired. They overstepped the mark of 'journalism'. They should find alternative employment and should never-ever be allowed on air again.

http://www.change.org/petitions/2da...all-those-involved-for-gross-misconduct#share
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So are we going to sign another petition to get all DJs, who play phone pranks on people, fired then? Darren Simpson perhaps? Or do we need to wait until their prank actually results in a suicide before we do so?

Funny how many are up in arms once something like this happens but they probably laughed along to every one of Simpson's, and others, stupid calls before.
 
ClintZA said:
So are we going to sign another petition to get all DJs, who play phone pranks on people, fired then? Darren Simpson perhaps? Or do we need to wait until their prank actually results in a suicide before we do so?

Funny how many are up in arms once something like this happens but they probably laughed along to every one of Simpson's, and others, stupid calls before.
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Usually, anything recorded without a person's knowledge (such as during a prank call), permission must be sought from the 'victim' before it is put to air. I'm pretty sure this wasn't done in this case. Aside from being so high profile (an anonymous nurse just doing her job, humiliated in front of the world for no reason) it was in bad taste:

3:30pm: The Sydney Morning Herald journalist Michael Idato writes there has to be a ''line in the sand'' between black humour and offence:
''A measure by which a sensible society sets limits to protect the vulnerable from such pranks and, in a modern society, the media fallout which inevitably follows them when they go wrong. The latter, in particular, is a major issue at play here,'' he writes.
''The King Edward VII hospital prank is not funny. It wasn't funny when it was played. Not for some hand-wringing sense of righteous judgment, but simply because one of its targets - a mother to be whose pregnancy was causing so much discomfort that she had to be hospitalised - was so vulnerable, and its effect - to have details of her medical condition broadcast on radio - was an appalling breach of privacy.''
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http://www.smh.com.au/world/live-gl...australian-djs-found-dead-20121208-2b1wb.html
 
ClintZA said:
So are we going to sign another petition to get all DJs, who play phone pranks on people, fired then? Darren Simpson perhaps? Or do we need to wait until their prank actually results in a suicide before we do so?

Funny how many are up in arms once something like this happens but they probably laughed along to every one of Simpson's, and others, stupid calls before.
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I think prank calls in general is pretty juvenile. Don't find them funny.

But this case has made headlines and eventually it led to the death of a person. These two DJ's did contravene their countries broadcasting guidelines.

http://thehoopla.com.au/radio-prank-calls-rules/
“A licensee must not broadcast the words of an identifiable person unless:

a) That person has been informed in advance or a reasonable person would be aware that the words may be broadcast

b) In the case of words which have been recorded without the knowledge of that person, that person has subsequently, but prior to the broadcast, expressed consent to the broadcast of their words.”

The fact that they cleared it with a Lawyer beforehand already showed that they thought it to be dubious.

But THIS is what the issue is here:

"Deborah Barnard BURY, LANCASHIRE, UNITED KINGDOM

I am a nurse & am accountable to my profession, so should they be!!"

Accountability! So if the shoe fits others, then yes, they should be taken off air too. Your actions do have consequences, and as a human being you need to take responsibility of those and face the consequences.

Again, these two should not be allowed on the radio again. But they should also be send sent to counseling to get to grips with what they did. I'm sure they feel terrible, but they are Radio DJ's. They seek out attention, so I think their skins would be much tougher than a nurse trying to do her work.
 
Help me out here.

This is the nurse that answered the phone and then transferred the call to the other nurse who gave out the information?
 
APoc184 said:
Help me out here.

This is the nurse that answered the phone and then transferred the call to the other nurse who gave out the information?
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Yes. So the attention is focused on her, because she was the initial recipient of the call and passed it on. The other nurse's defense probably was that she thought the first nurse were convinced it was indeed the Queen on the line.
How do you verify it is the queen? May I have your ID number please?

If you take a call at work, you assume the person on the other end is your client. You don't go round asking them to prove who they are. Can you imagine what would happen to you if the caller speaks to your supervisor and tells them that you wanted proof that the caller really is who the caller says they are. I'm sure you will be fired pretty soon.

She probably suffered severe PTSD after the backlash and simply couldn't cope.
 
Very little of this anger seems to be directed at the British media. From the brief bits I have read surely they are even more to blame for supposedly hounding this nurse...
 
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