RTX 3080

Just note that all of AMD's comparisons had Smart Access Memory enabled, and they had Rage Mode enabled with their 3090XT,

AMD Smart Access Memory grants your
@AMD Ryzen 5000 Series processor full access to the GPU memory of your
@Radeon RX 6000 Series graphics card, delivering an automatic gaming performance uplift after enabling. #GameOnAMD
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before people run off with praise for AMD, people should know how Smart Access Memory actually works? Is it a temporary boost? Are their any disadvantages? Do you need to meet specific hardware requirements? blah blah blah.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Specs aren't relevant at the moment. Real world benchmarks will tell the story. Just note that AMD is backing every claim with their Infinity Cache. The broadcast is broken unfortunately and I would have appreciated seeing them elaborate on this in marketing terms.
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Fulcrum29 said:
Just odd to apply clocking in this presentation, but they are clever to back it as technologies. I am only asking these questions due to them stating that it must be turned on?
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Rage mode is essentially a one-click OC. Cooling dependent, most people would likely use it (assuming it is stable).

Yes, they've shown their best case scenarios and many people likely won't have the setup to fully utilise that setup initially. But it is a good indication of potential performance.
 
AMD Smart Access Memory can only be enabled with AMD Ryzen 5000-series and 500 boards. Nobody still understands what Infinity Cache is exactly. According to AMD Rage Mode only added 1-2% performance and that Smart Access Memory did the rest, they also stated that Smart Access Memory is greatly dependent on the game.
 
Ancalagon said:
Apparently because the 3070 isn't officially released yet.

EDIT: I mean, if nothing else, if AMD were to claim that the 6800 is x% faster than the 3070, you know they are lying through their teeth because they don't have a 3070 and can't possibly know that.

Reviews of the 3070 have launched but the card is not available for sale yet.
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What makes you think they don't have one? Review samples are already out to tech reviewers. You can bet AMD got their hands on one.
 
UrBaN963 said:
Rage mode is essentially a one-click OC. Cooling dependent, most people would likely use it (assuming it is stable).

Yes, they've shown their best case scenarios and many people likely won't have the setup to fully utilise that setup initially. But it is a good indication of potential performance.
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If Nvidia used clocking in their presentation there would have been 10 extra pages to this thread already. I listened now to the run-down by Gamers Nexus, he covered most of these proprietary clock settings. Apparently, Rage Mode is the same thing as Nvidia Boost.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
AMD Smart Access Memory can only be enabled with AMD Ryzen 5000-series and 500 boards. Nobody still understands what Infinity Cache is exactly. According to AMD Rage Mode only added 1-2% performance and that Smart Access Memory did the rest, they also stated that Smart Access Memory is greatly dependent on the game.
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I think there's a different angle to this though.

Rage mode, Infinity Cache and Smart Access memory are bonuses to performance, for people who have the right equipment. The base performance of the card is what's most important as initially nobody will have the right setup to enable all of the new features.
 
UrBaN963 said:
What makes you think they don't have one? Review samples are already out to tech reviewers. You can bet AMD got their hands on one.
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They probably do, but they can't "officially" use those numbers.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
AMD Smart Access Memory can only be enabled with AMD Ryzen 5000-series and 500 boards. Nobody still understands what Infinity Cache is exactly. According to AMD Rage Mode only added 1-2% performance and that Smart Access Memory did the rest, they also stated that Smart Access Memory is greatly dependent on the game.
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As a guess, I'd say the GPU lets the CPU use it's memory as a cache. But we'll have to see, it sounds mostly like a gimmic.
 
UrBaN963 said:
I think there's a different angle to this though.

Rage mode, Infinity Cache and Smart Access memory are bonuses to performance, for people who have the right equipment. The base performance of the card is what's most important as initially nobody will have the right setup to enable all of the new features.
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Gamers Nexus did a good summary,


I have to make a decision, either a 3080 or a 6800XT... I guess the 3080 Super is around the corner :laugh:
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Gamers Nexus did a good summary,


I have to make a decision, either a 3080 or a 6800XT... I guess the 3080 Super is around the corner :laugh:
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For me, it's the 6800XT because **** Intel. Go underdog.

But I wouldn't spend a cent until official reviews are out.
 
UrBaN963 said:
For me, it's the 6800XT because **** Intel. Go underdog.

But I wouldn't spend a cent until official reviews are out.
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If Smart Access Memory is dependent on the game or how the game behaves, then these benchmarks were nit-picked, but time will tell and obviously if SAM is beneficial, new developments will incorporate its advantages.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
If Smart Access Memory is dependent on the game or how the game behaves, then these benchmarks were nit-picked, but time will tell and obviously if SAM is beneficial, new developments will incorporate its advantages.
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I don't know that I'd say they're nit-picked - they're essentially the popular, new games that people are playing.

Nice thing is, SAM will just be there at all times if you have a Ryzen 5000 CPU and enable the option in the bios.
 
UrBaN963 said:
I don't know that I'd say they're nit-picked - they're essentially the popular, new games that people are playing.

Nice thing is, SAM will just be there at all times if you have a Ryzen 5000 CPU and enable the option in the bios.
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Benchmark conditions are cherry-picked, Nvidia does it, AMD does it.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Benchmark conditions are cherry-picked, Nvidia does it, AMD does it.
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of course they are. What I'm saying is they didn't pick some obscure game that nobody knows.

Nor did they make silly claims in the way nVidia did for the RTX 3000 launch.

At the end of the day, and as always, we won't know until we get official benchmarks.

I can't see them fudging the numbers too much though, too easy to prove them wrong when people get the cards.
 
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