S5 vs iPhone 6 plus

[icyrus]

iOS is more of an app switcher than a OS. It's got it's idle state of home screen - and then switching between apps

Of all the ridiculously ignorant things you've said on this topic, this one has to be the most preposterous.

 

[Dolby]

I see at a glance what is happening!

 

[faniebraai]

I see at a glance what is happening!

eish nee man, delete this pitcher! this is not doing my widget-argument any favours LOL

 

[Dolby]

Of all the ridiculously ignorant things you've said on this topic, this one has to be the most preposterous.

I don't think I've mentioned that much in this thread ... actually

 

[icyrus]

I don't think I've mentioned that much in this thread ... actually

This topic being Apple and iOS in particular not just this thread. But carry on, you're good for a laugh.

 

[PostmanPot]

Of all the ridiculously ignorant things you've said on this topic, this one has to be the most preposterous.

Dumbfounding isn't it. I plead with others not to engage Dolby on this (unless for humour's sake).

 

[Dolby]

eish nee man, delete this pitcher! this is not doing my widget-argument any favours LOL

LOL.

I can select the size - but I prefer a full screen :/ I think this is a fantastic reason for Google Now!

 

[Dolby]

Dumbfounding isn't it. I plead with others not to engage Dolby on this (unless for humour's sake).

Oh haven't seen you for ages, PP.

Hope you're well

 

[cerebus]

Not a pain at all. Maybe for some, not really for me. You want to talk about the smoothness of UX but you haven't actually used an S5? Which is noticeably smoother than any other android device I've seen or had in my hands... you obviously using your G2 as reference which is a bad starting point. There is a reason that it's not being compared to the 6 anywhere.

bgr.com/2013/09/12/lg-g2-review/

Sep 12, 2013 - Performance has never been a problem for LG and the G2 is as smooth as they come. Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean flies on this phone thanks to the ..

Nothing wrong with the G2 smoothness, as far as Android devices go it's one of the smoothest UIs around.

 

[faniebraai]

LOL.

I can select the size - but I prefer a full screen :/ I think this is a fantastic reason for Google Now!

But at least you are a prime example of my "options" argument. You like it, I don't. I have the option to not use it. You have the option to use it. iOthers on the other hand....

 

[Dolby]

True - I actually only have 2 widgets : The Google Now one and a small one to tell me minute/data use. I never go mad with them though - think I only had 4 on my other phone

 

[surfs-up]

so yeah in a straight spec shootout it's going to get hammered by the top end Droids but why would Apple put in 2gb or 3gb's or ram if all they need is 1gb?? Why would they put in a 43MP camera when they can get such good results with a 8MP camera?? Not every car is built with a V12 twin turbo engine, some get great performance from a 1600 Ford Escourt engine...

Anyway...

I think I have your answer. Apple are very sneaky - they only put 1 GB of RAM inside, so that when they bring out iOS 9.0, and you update your iPhone 6 OS, your iPhone suddenly becomes very slow....making you want to buy their new iPhone 7.

I learnt the hard way. When I updated my iPhone 4 from iOS 6 to iOS 7, my iPhone became pathetically slow. It made me consider getting an iPhone 5, but the iPhone 5 screen was still way to small, so I decided to go to the dark side and bought a Sammy Note 3....and man.....am I happy with it.

Apple has (at long last) answered my wishes and increased the screen size, to a size that I think is perfect (iPhone 6 plus). For me I find the iPhone 6 plus and the Note 3 are very close in hardware, what makes the difference now is the operating system. I am now sold on Android, and doubt I will go back to iOS. iOS is just so limiting....

 

[sand_man]

True - I actually only have 2 widgets : The Google Now one and a small one to tell me minute/data use. I never go mad with them though - think I only had 4 on my other phone

This was the locksreen on my S4. One thing I miss BIG TIME are the widgets...

 

[sand_man]

I think I have your answer. Apple are very sneaky - they only put 1 GB of RAM inside, so that when they bring out iOS 9.0, and you update your iPhone 6 OS, your iPhone suddenly becomes very slow....making you want to buy their new iPhone 7.

Suppose there has to be some incentive to update one's hardware. They are afterall running a profit driven business.

The 5 year old iPhone 3GS still runs 6.1.3 off of 256mb of ram so my argument stands.

If an iPhone 6 purchased in 2014 is still relevant and functional in the year 2019 that would translate into a relatively good investment?

 

[OrbitalDawn]

I think it stresses them (me) out that someone would choose something which is obviously inferior and be happy with it.

In terms of usability and user experience it isn't "obviously inferior". Hardware specs that don't actually translate to a superior user experience is irrelevant.

 

[faniebraai]

In terms of usability and user experience it isn't "obviously inferior". Hardware specs that don't actually translate to a superior user experience is irrelevant.

I didn't say that hardware specs is the begin all and end all. Did I? I meant functionally it is 'obviously inferior'. If you make a list of what each of the devices and can and cannot do, there will be a lot more on the iPhone's 'cannot do' list, than on the android phone's list.

 

[surfs-up]

OK, so its faster in an iphone, will it perform the same in another device, probably not... but ok. I'll give it back to the iPhone.

Completely don't agree here. Make me understand why. imo both do exactly the same. Same for the heart rate monitor. And where is the 6's IR blaster?



They are there. If you don't like them, don't use them. More options shouldn't be a disadvantage. Which apps gives you a better quality that you can/can't find on the play store? This was the case a couple of years ago, but everything is mostly on par now. S Health is actually a nice looking and functional app now. I still don't use it and use Endomondo, choices... we've been having it.



You lumped it into UI/UX and still gave it to iPhone? Wow, not baised at all I see. Their user interface is as basic as basic can be. Even the blackberry 8520 had a better user interface. No home screens. You basically unlock the phone straight into your app drawer (in android terms). With the customization options out there, I can make my phone look and feel like iphone, not that I want to, but the option is there. Can you make it look and feel like an android? What about multi tasking? What about having a floating video while you use the rest of your phone. And just because a feature is not specific to the S5, should I now discount it? The 5S and the 6 is going to have exactly the same features, except for a camera improvement and NFC, so we'll have to discount the whole iPhone 6 now, except the camera. Damn.

O yes, NFC... welcome to 2012. What can you use your NFC for except apple pay? Nothing? What a pity. What about bluetooth? O I see... Nice song you having playing there, can you send it to me? Let's just use direct wifi? No? O, what about bluetooth? Still not... Well, just plug it into my pc here and transfer it manually? WTF is a iTunes?

You make some compelling and valid points Faan'

 

[zippy]

I think it stresses them (me) out that someone would choose something which is obviously inferior and be happy with it. To us, it makes no sense. And sense is very important to us. We believe what we want to believe. There are a lot of android fans which are pissed off with some of the file restrictions brought in with Kitkat, because it makes no sense. This iOS thing that people seem to like, is just another thing that doesn't make sense to the very sensible people that we are.

You seem to believe that only what you believe is a good attribute is what counts. Android and IOS, and Windows phone' os are basically the same. They all have their good points and bad points. You claim your likes are sensible and others aren't. That is the height of arrogance. I choose ios because I feel it is a far more secure OS. The operation is also smoother. Its not perfect. No OS. But Apple do more than Google does. I have a Samsung Android phone in my desk at work. Only because I have to have it. Its not as good as an iphone. Its not as good as a Windows phone.

If I ever change from iOS, it will be to a Windows phone.

 

[zippy]

Will you get full iOS8?
Or do you have no idea at this stage?

What do you mean by "full" ios 8 ?

I have upgraded both my iphone 5s and ipad air to ios 8. It is the full ios 8. The only thing that's missing is the nfc functionality which is hardware related, AFAIK. Not overly concerned about it. It will take at least a year for the nfc to properly adopted anyway.

My main focus atm, is learning Swift and Metal graphics programming, which I am enjoying.

 

[PostmanPot]

I think I have your answer. Apple are very sneaky - they only put 1 GB of RAM inside, so that when they bring out iOS 9.0, and you update your iPhone 6 OS, your iPhone suddenly becomes very slow....making you want to buy their new iPhone 7.

I learnt the hard way. When I updated my iPhone 4 from iOS 6 to iOS 7, my iPhone became pathetically slow. It made me consider getting an iPhone 5, but the iPhone 5 screen was still way to small, so I decided to go to the dark side and bought a Sammy Note 3....and man.....am I happy with it.

Apple has (at long last) answered my wishes and increased the screen size, to a size that I think is perfect (iPhone 6 plus). For me I find the iPhone 6 plus and the Note 3 are very close in hardware, what makes the difference now is the operating system. I am now sold on Android, and doubt I will go back to iOS. iOS is just so limiting....

The iPhone 4 is a 1GHz single core processor, so we obviously cannot expect much. iOS 6 was no doubt smoother, but a fresh iOS 7 installation is by no means slow in my opinion. Perhaps you restored from a backup too which affects overall speed compared to fresh.

For many, its main functions will still be there, many improved, along with the benefits that come with being able to run a modern iOS well on a 4 year old device. They don't have to update if they don't want to. And if they want to it's their prerogative.

I'm sure you upgrade your computer every few years, so the same is true for what led to your experience. Which we must surely agree cannot be used to form even a weak argument against iOS/Apple.