Jam Sandwich
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How is them winning a ward from the ANC, a threat to the DA? They were already ahead of the DA in that ward anyway...
I don't think that word means what you think it meansEven hardcore DA supporters are panicking.
You will need to ask Hermann, he is one of the guys who is into polling and stuff. But I guess the point he is making is that the DA is losing coloured voters to the PA and that is not just a conclusion made from this single ward.How is them winning a ward from the ANC, a threat to the DA? They were already ahead of the DA in that ward anyway...
Tell me in your own words what is Hermann doing.I don't think that word means what you think it means
Stating an opinion. Next questionTell me in your own words what is Hermann doing.
But Helen Zille!Dawie Scholtz: Everything points to a major collapse in the ANC vote next year especially in the metros.
Like I said earlier, he likes to focus on specific facts. The rest, he ignores. That's his thing.You love deflecting but this a ward that ANC has always won. Also as I've told you a million times before, but you completely ignore it, not all wards are created equal. That Kou Kamma ward has roughly 1500 voters - in total. My urban CT ward usually gives 10 000 votes to the DA alone. That's the fundamental problem for the PA in our PR system - they win wards where hardly anyone lives but are very weak where the bulk of population resides (cities).
Fact remains the PA is taking the coloured votes from the DA, you have even admitted so yourself, the DA can hardly afford to lose coloured votes, even in ANC wards.You love deflecting but this a ward that ANC has always won. Also as I've told you a million times before, but you completely ignore it, not all wards are created equal. That Kou Kamma ward has roughly 1500 voters - in total. My urban CT ward usually gives 10 000 votes to the DA alone. That's the fundamental problem for the PA in our PR system - they win wards where hardly anyone lives but are very weak where the bulk of population resides (cities).
It's hilarious, the ANC gets an absolute hammering at the polls, everything is pointing to a complete collapse of the party. But @TheChamp is trying to convince us that it's actually the DA that's collapsedYou will need to ask Hermann, he is one of the guys who is into polling and stuff. But I guess the point he is making is that the DA is losing coloured voters to the PA and that is not just a conclusion made from this single ward.
Do a DA/PA head to head of the by election results of all majority coloured wards and I bet you will see a trend that has got Hermann all hot and bothered.
Said without any sense of irony while struggling to accept a certain fact that the DA is losing coloured votes to the PA.Like I said earlier, he likes to focus on specific facts. The rest, he ignores. That's his thing.
Take it up with a fellow DA supporter Hermann.It's hilarious, the ANC gets an absolute hammering at the polls, everything is pointing to a complete collapse of the party. But @TheChamp is trying to convince us that it's actually the DA that's collapsed. This gentleman will jump off a bridge if it helps him shift the narrative
Your tunnel vision is astonishingSaid without any sense of irony while struggling to accept a certain fact that the DA is losing coloured votes to the PA.
The DA won the most votes in all WC municipalities last year (although I concede that it was provincial and national votes which tend to benefit the bigger parties). I accept at municipal level the PA will probably be ahead of the DA in some municipalities next year in the WC but again, you need to look under the hood and see how many people actually live there. The DA are not losing the "coloured vote" - it's a bit more nuanced than that. The PA don't have a single ward in CT despite there being many urban CT "coloured" wards.Fact remains the PA is taking the coloured votes from the DA, you have even admitted so yourself, the DA can hardly afford to lose coloured votes, even in ANC wards.
Actually the PA runs only slightly ahead at municipal level - the DA won the most votes in all WC municipalities last year. I accept at municipal level the PA will probably be ahead of the DA in some municipalities next year in the WC but again, you need to look under the hood and see how many people actually live there. The DA are not losing the "coloured vote" - it's a bit more nuanced than that. The PA don't have a single ward in CT despite there being many urban CT "coloured" wards.
Rural coloured vote, NOT urban coloured vote. If the PA were winning the coloured vote, they'd be winning wards in places like Mitchells Plein, Goodwood, Atlantis etc.What is the DA losing to the PA if it's not the coloured vote?
Are you not here to push ANC propaganda? Please enlighten us as to their dismal by-election showing which is pointing to them crashing below 30% in the next election?