Samsung Galaxy Note 7 (previously Note 6)

RochaZA

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Decided it was a sign from the Gods for me to try ios out again so ill be getting an iPhone 7 plus.
 

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For those looking for a big phone, Huawei Mate 9 is being announced beginning of November. Could be a good phone, apparently the Mate 8 wasn't bad.

I will wait and see how that one is, otherwise will wait a year for Note 8 (except it might be called something else from next year on. The Note name has been tarnished, but they will not drop the S-Pen, too big a part of their Galaxy line) I might just wait for next year, they will probably pull out all the stops to make up for this.
The Mate 8 is rather nice. I bought one but couldn't find a cover in the month I had it and wasn't prepared to risk it so I sold it.
 

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http://www.moneyweb.co.za/news-fast-news/samsungs-bigger-problem/

This week, Samsung representatives are standing by at some of the world’s busiest airports, ready to exchange Galaxy Note 7 phones for something new and less combustible. After dozens of fires, two recalls and the complete cancellation of the product, the US government on Saturday warned that anyone knowingly bringing a Galaxy Note 7 and its potentially explosive battery onto a plane could be subject to criminal prosecution.

There’s plenty of reason to blame Samsung for this debacle. It rushed the phone to market. It didn’t subject the batteries to independent testing, as its competitors routinely do. It was slow to acknowledge the scale of the problem. And it failed to properly coordinate its response with regulators.

But perhaps Samsung’s biggest mistake was one common to many phone makers: In the race to make the slimmest devices possible, it created a product that can no longer be easily repaired or refurbished. For years, this trend has been harmful to consumers and the environment; now it’s clear that it can hurt a manufacturer’s bottom line and reputation, too.

The immediate problem with the Galaxy Note 7 is a manufacturing defect that makes its batteries prone to short-circuiting and combustion. That didn’t need to be a fatal flaw: As recently as 2014, one of the top selling points for Galaxy Note phones was that a user could switch out the battery pack with ease. If the Note 7’s batteries could have been quickly replaced, the toll of the current crisis would have been far smaller.

In 2015, however, Samsung began to transition away from replaceable batteries. It wanted to produce a thinner device, which made accessing interior components more difficult. And it wanted to make its phones waterproof, which required embedding batteries and made DIY repair a fantasy except for the most competent technicians. (One expert recently explained that replacing a Note 7 battery requires “blasting the back of the phone with hot air, prying away the glass and pulling out a layer of components before going after the battery with a tiny plastic crowbar.”)

Samsung’s new approach offered one other advantage. Replacing batteries is now a high-margin business for phone makers. Apple charges $79 to swap out a battery on an out-of-warranty iPhone 6, even though replacement kits, complete with tools, can be found online for less than $30. Those who already have the tools — such as the fast-growing independent phone-repair industry — can purchase the batteries online for less than $10. Samsung had the same idea: It costs $45 for an authorised service center to swap out a battery for the premium S6. But many owners will simply upgrade instead of going through the trouble. And that’s precisely what the manufacturers want: An overly expensive battery replacement is really just the starting point for upselling a new phone.

The Note 7 recall is a blunt reminder that, in a crisis, those harder-to-repair phones can become a vast liability. Instead of switching out 2.5 million batteries, Samsung is now preparing to “dispose” of 2.5 million phones, at a cost that will easily exceed $1 billion, not to mention long-term reputational damage.

And the cost to the environment may be steeper. By one estimate, the average new phone requires 165 pounds of raw materials, including gold, copper, rare earths and oil. Even under the best circumstances, recyclers can recover only a small percentage of such ingredients. Samsung hasn’t disclosed what it plans to do with all those recalled phones, but it’s a safe bet that it will amount to an enormous waste.

It doesn’t need to be this way. Manufacturers are fully capable of designing products for easier repairs, and some are doing so. When Apple designed the iPhone 7 to be water resistant, it didn’t rely on adhesives but instead opted for repair-friendly gaskets and seals. FairPhone, a Dutch social enterprise, has sold tens of thousands of premium modular phones that allow customers to snap out batteries with ease. LG has carved out a profitable niche making high-end phones that do the same.

These companies are figuring out something that the auto industry realised years ago: There’s a market for durable products that can be repaired and upgraded, either in a driveway or at a service center. Repairable devices can be a hedge against a Note 7-type recall. They also allow companies to make money over the lifespan of their products by selling replacement parts, while cementing long-term relationships with their customers. Auto dealerships mastered this art long ago. Samsung, when it finishes cleaning up the mess left behind by the Note 7, should try to do the same.
 

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Nope it's been completely discontinued. Confirmed with Samsung International before I got my iphone 7 Plus
 

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The Mate 8 is rather nice. I bought one but couldn't find a cover in the month I had it and wasn't prepared to risk it so I sold it.

I went for the Mate8 as well. dont care about covers, enjoying 3-4days battery life
 

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It's was a difficult change in the beginning but not that I'm used to it I'm loving it. I do miss things here and there but overall a good change. Don't know if I'll be coming back to android anytime soon.
 

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It's was a difficult change in the beginning but not that I'm used to it I'm loving it. I do miss things here and there but overall a good change. Don't know if I'll be coming back to android anytime soon.

Why do you say that you dont know if you will come back. Never had a iPhone what about it are you enjoying most
 

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It's was a difficult change in the beginning but not that I'm used to it I'm loving it. I do miss things here and there but overall a good change. Don't know if I'll be coming back to android anytime soon.

Get out! :p lol
 

RochaZA

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Just a different os. Not having to customize everything. It just works out the box. It's hard to explain. I never said I won't be coming back. I just said it won't be anytime soon.
 

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Oh and I'm loving force touch. I find it really useful. You have to experience iOS and give it a chance to get what I mean.
 

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To be honest it's about the same as my Note 7 was. Only thing that is quite hungry is safari but you can always use chrome if you want.
 
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To be honest it's about the same as my Note 7 was. Only thing that is quite hungry is safari but you can always use chrome if you want.

problem is just you can't set the default browser at OS level, you have to hope that the app you use (to click on the link) supports a custom browser.
 
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