Sanral offices evacuated, e-tolls down

DJ... said:
That may be true, but terrorism is not the way to resolve this. It only weakens the standpoint of those who object rationally...
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Well I'm not condoning one way or another, but I can understand the measures that people take when they become desperate. When your peaceful protests consistently fall on deaf ears, and the government that is meant to work for you goes ahead and does its own thing anyway, there is only so much one can stomach...
 
supersunbird said:
(hope you don't mean the "cameras stolen of gantry" pic, those gantries are not active yet since construction of those section of road has not finished)
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Indeed I could have seen sensationalist headlines and the pic you mention. "smashing" might be the wrong word. Still my point stands: until Big Dog is strolling down our suburban streets, enforcing curfews, any kind of "violent" (ie non-political, non-propoganda, non-discourse -based) methods are not the way forward.

supersunbird said:
How do you know it was a deadly powder and not just maizemeal?
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Matters not.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Well I'm not condoning one way or another, but I can understand the measures that people take when they become desperate. When your peaceful protests consistently fall on deaf ears, and the government that is meant to work for you goes ahead and does its own thing anyway, there is only so much one can stomach...
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This isn't a rational, nor defensible approach in my books. It shouldn't be celebrated, nor condoned...
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Well I'm not condoning one way or another, but I can understand the measures that people take when they become desperate. When your peaceful protests consistently fall on deaf ears, and the government that is meant to work for you goes ahead and does its own thing anyway, there is only so much one can stomach...
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Point taken. When will the frog leap from the boiling pot? It's a difficult one...
 
Gibson said:
Honestly don't think the actual powder matters, it the person gets traced they could probably get charges under a public disorder offence or assault not to mention that SANRAL may be able to launch a civil case against them for disrupting serivices). Bit stupid to turn a perfectly effective social protest into a violent one, giving the opposition some moral superiority.

Out of interest how difficult is it to produce\buy anthrax in S.A? Thinking some of the varsity/private labs might be able to do it; but given the small potential sources, jumping to that conclusion was a bit stupid of SANRAL, most likely baby powder and an overreaction.
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It still occurs naturally in Zimbabwe. Making it into a powder - You'd need a moderately decent laboratory like the kinds found at varsities, hospitals and places like Clover or Rand Water. Doing it without anyone noticing - not very likely.

Tin foil hat time. What is the likelihood this is a false flag event before the start a clampdown?
 
attacks on the physical infrastructure of the e-toll system (although it hasn't happened yet) is one thing

attacking SCAMRAL employees (many of whom are probably just normal working folk with families to support) is not on
 
OverKill69 said:
Who cares?
If you condone sending "mysterious white powders" to everyone you disagree with... you become more than a forum troll...
You become a TERRORIST.


Tell that to the judge when he sends you to jail as a joke?
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don't you be calling me a terrorist because i support the person who sent some baby bum powder to some idiot who didn't think this e-toll through before implementing it. they knew what the consequences would be, the people were tired of being sheep and started taking action. it's probably not even anthrax or some lethal substance.

you should also be careful using a term such as "terrorist" in name calling on the internet. people can take it personally and take offence and the next thing you know you're in court facing charges. that is a serious accusation you just made.
 
Celine said:
don't you be calling me a terrorist because i support the person who sent some baby bum powder to some idiot who didn't think this e-toll through before implementing it. they knew what the consequences would be, the people were tired of being sheep and started taking action. it's probably not even anthrax or some lethal substance.

you should also be careful using a term such as "terrorist" in name calling on the internet. people can take it personally and take offence and the next thing you know you're in court facing charges. that is a serious accusation you just made.
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And you don't see the irony that you used a fear tactic to reprimand him ...
 
Deep breaths, celine. Get that brown paper bag and breathe...
 
Like most things I find funny.... It's so wrong but I had a good giggle. Someone is in deep Shyte if they are found.
 
Seriously said:
@fingo
Dude/tte, get a life, see the comic in all this!
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"when things become intolerable or your rights are trampled, you are brought back into abeyance through a process called 'reframing'. Most television programming is dedicated to sustaining this manipulation. Reframing is a psychological programming technique that encourages you to change your perspective to one in which the subject takes on a completely different meaning (as chosen by the controller)."
"This is usually done in a situation where a legitimate grievance is converted into the illusion of opportunity (look on the bright side), thankfulness (count your blessings), or to convert a legitimate reaction like anger into a harmless one like humor."

No time for jokes :p

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Celine said:
don't you be calling me a terrorist because i support the person who sent some baby bum powder to some idiot who didn't think this e-toll through before implementing it. they knew what the consequences would be, the people were tired of being sheep and started taking action. it's probably not even anthrax or some lethal substance.

you should also be careful using a term such as "terrorist" in name calling on the internet. people can take it personally and take offence and the next thing you know you're in court facing charges. that is a serious accusation you just made.
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Sending biological agents to a building with the intention of spreading fear and terror is TERRORISM... even if the powder is harmless. There's no two ways about it.

Anyone who supports or condones that sort of action is supporting and condoning terrorism. It's pretty clear cut.

So yes, if you support the individual who perpetrated this act of terror, I will call you a terrorist. And so will the rest of the rational and law-abiding members of the human race.

Regardless of the target, the cause, the motives, or the justification... this is VERY much terrorism. It disturbs me how some people can't see past their own narrow interests to see it.

That building is filled with innocent people. Secretaries, janitors, IT technicians, security guards and desk jockeys... The fact that they work for a company implementing an unpopular and flawed system is incidental.

This is a despicable act and should be deplored in the strongest terms... by everyone. Detractors included.
 
You heard the man. Stop paying your etoll fees in cocaine. :twisted:

But seriously. He has a point. Had a massive falling out with a PA in my dept over Halloween. She came to work dressed as a suicide bomber on costume Friday. And everyone was surprised that I took offence.
Not funny. Not funny at all. In this case someone mailed a packet of powder to someone else with the express purpose of causing terror. So, yes. Not a nice thing to do.
 
We all know how SAPO mishandles postage - for all you know, the letter itself originally contained something valuable and had notices such as "do not drop" on it. Almost similar to the Luthuli house "terrorism" and the Rosebank issue - sounds more like seeking attention to me.

Disgraceful however if it is a real threat (and we can all agree, there are quite a few nutjobs in this country)
 
MagicDude4Eva said:
We all know how SAPO mishandles postage - for all you know, the letter itself originally contained something valuable and had notices such as "do not drop" on it. Almost similar to the Luthuli house "terrorism" and the Rosebank issue - sounds more like seeking attention to me.

Disgraceful however if it is a real threat (and we can all agree, there are quite a few nutjobs in this country)
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Smart move though. Mailing a white powder is more difficult to trace than a phonecall.
Had that at my high-school once. Seems some kid had overslept and panicked.

And a few years later someone phoned one though to Monsanto's offices and they evacuated the entire office park.
 
So the ANC never used terrorism to overthrow the old regime, so why should anyone *****foot around this regime?
 
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