Sanral offices evacuated, e-tolls down

OzzieCapie said:
It replaced urban road and other urban roads have been tolled, happy to pay.

The point was about the need for control centre in any case



Again, my friend the ANC fought an unjust , illegal and morally reprehensible govt and they didn't do so shouting from a forum

Go ahead and keep likeninmg Apartheid to an e-Tolled road
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The ANC is your friend? Explains the sheep affiinity.
 
OzzieCapie said:
Again, my friend the ANC fought an unjust , illegal and morally reprehensible govt and they didn't do so shouting from a forum
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They killed INNOCENT people... not police/army/government...

I never compared e-toll to Apartheid.. you said we must have balls to send our address.. just asked if they had balls when killing innocent people by adding an address to the bomb, so the cops could go directly to bomb planter...
 
OzzieCapie even though i cant see your posts anymore, please go away :)
 
OzzieCapie said:
It replaced urban road and other urban roads have been tolled, happy to pay.

The point was about the need for control centre in any case
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Seems it was a newly built road so its fine to toll, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westlink_M7. Please indicate at least one previously free urban road was tolled/upgraded-and-tolled so I can research this because I have read through a lot over info on Australian roads and toll roads now and can't find reference where they have tolled a previously free urban road, all seems to indicate new road construction.
 
OzzieCapie said:
... the ANC fought an unjust , illegal and morally reprehensible govt and they didn't do so shouting from a forum ...
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Yes, they did it by bombing Wimpy's, Ladies' Bars and shopping centres full of women and children.

So that gave them the moral high ground, right ???
 
Biological attacks 'cowardly' : JPSA

Biological or chemical attacks, real or feigned, are an act of cowardice and terrorism, the Justice Project SA (JPSA) said on Tuesday, after Sanral's operations centre in Pretoria had to be shut down when white powder was found in an envelope.

Electronic Toll Collection (ETC) said on Tuesday night that biological analysis of the powder showed it was not anthrax. He did not say what it was.

The court should deal with the perpetrators in the strongest possible way when they were tracked down, the JPSA said in a statement.

The Tshwane hazardous material unit was called to the SA National Roads Agency Limited's (Sanral) nerve centre on Tuesday afternoon after a "suspicious envelope containing a white substance" was found on the premises.

The building was evacuated and its electricity shut down.

Thirty seven people were decontaminated and hospitalised as a precautionary measure, said ETC CEO Jamie Surkont. "We treat this threat in a very serious light," he said.

This suggested that the incident was a great deal more than a simple prank, JPSA chairman Howard Dembovsky said in a statement.

"We do not believe that SANRAL's description of this heinous act as 'bordering on a serious crime' was nearly strong enough," he said.

"Hoax or real, JPSA condemns this incident in the strongest possible terms and wishes all Sanral employees affected by this incident well."

He said JPSA was surprised the incident had brought Sanral's much vaunted "technological masterpiece" of e-tolling to a grinding halt

He was referring to Sanral spokesman Vusi Mona's earlier comment that the evacuation had disrupted the Gauteng highway tolling system. Mona did not elaborate.

However, Surkont later said it had remained operational and that there had been "insignificant service interruptions" at the call centre. He said full services would be reinstated as soon as possible.

Dembovsky said that if the system was affected with no one able to man it, this suggested that a system people had been led to believe was highly-automated and infallible, was instead reliant on being manned.

It also suggested that Sanral has no redundancy built into the e-tolling IT system infrastructure, by having more than one system in place.

"Given the enormous cost of installing and implementing such a system, one would have thought that fundamental corporate IT best practices would have been employed and that Sanral and its tender winners would not have placed all of their eggs in one basket," he said.

"If this is indeed the case, which apparently it is, then government should order an immediate investigation into the competence of both those who drafted and awarded the tenders and those who simply forged ahead and installed such a technologically vulnerable system, for which the public is expected to pay both arms and both legs...."


Source : Sapa /kd/cls
Date : 21 Jan 2014 23:05
 
was probly some worker's envelope with daily drug dose that got misplaced, and he didnt want to man up and incriminate himself.
the way they fook up, almost like they're on drugs :D next time tell dealer to have better delivery method.
so... they know it wasnt dangerous substance, but they dont know what it was? if they tested to see its not Anth, they couldnt test to see what it was?
Still... the important info here is.... if the people run away screaming, the system comes to a halt? for all that money they couldnt add some automation in there?
 
CeeBee said:
was probly some worker's envelope with daily drug dose that got misplaced, and he didnt want to man up and incriminate himself.
the way they fook up, almost like they're on drugs :D next time tell dealer to have better delivery method.
so... they know it wasnt dangerous substance, but they dont know what it was? if they tested to see its not Anth, they couldnt test to see what it was?
Still... the important info here is.... if the people run away screaming, the system comes to a halt? for all that money they couldnt add some automation in there?
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I'm sure that the news articles are incorrect. The call centre probably wasn't working, that's what they meant to say. The gantries would still have been taking pictures and the OCR system reading them and allocating the transaction to the relevant (or incorrect) account.
 
supersunbird said:
I'm sure that the news articles are incorrect. The call centre probably wasn't working, that's what they meant to say. The gantries would still have been taking pictures and the OCR system reading them and allocating the transaction to the relevant (or incorrect) account.
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Depends where the systems are:

The gantries take pictures and etag activation timestamp - that is sent through for matching and processing.

Turning off the processing may cause problems at the gantries if the buffers get too full.
 
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To add to the Daily Maverick article .. it's not just e-tolling and Sanral anymore. E-toll resistance has become a way to stand up & have a voice against a corrupt government who continue to misuse public funds. This incident might be questionable when looking at it in a Sanral/e-tolling incident, but IMO totally justified in opposing a hostile government.

I oppose the burning off stuff when protesting, but I'm starting to understand that if talking no longer works and government holds all the cards, stuff like this is bound to happen.
 
evilstebunny said:
I oppose the burning off stuff when protesting, but I'm starting to understand that if talking no longer works and government holds all the cards, stuff like this is bound to happen.
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it's the only language that government understands. They hold all the cards... and a big F.U from them...
 
From some of the responses here, clearly terrorism is acceptable to them. Be careful what you wish for. These types of attacks have a way of impacting on people you care about, such as your family.
 
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