Science Must Fall? - UCT Fallist discusses Decolonization

[BBSA]

It is funny to me to see the same people insulting the students here and supporting Donald Trump and his supporters elsewhere. This is exactly the same mentality and the same driving force.

A lot of poster here are no better than the people in the video.

LOL, we only have one or two people here who support a pig like Donald Trump.

 

[SweetFennyAdams]

Three

 

[access]

Sure. Does this post answer your question?

no that does not answer my question.

my question has one of 2 answers, yes she did or no she did not

 

[Brawler]

From the Kiffness facebook page:

 

[BandwidthAddict]

From the Kiffness facebook page:

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Don't joke, there are people who really believe this.

 

[ɹǝuuᴉM]

Are this the future leaders of our new South Africa? What a fail.....well at least by my standards.

 

[access]

just had a conversation with some guys about sciencemustfall, they were dumbfounded by the idea, but said lightning strike by demand is true when i told them the story and asked if i dont believe in magic.

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

I honestly thought this was some kind of joke/exaggeration when I first saw the headline, until the truth hit me that this is very real. At least it wasn't a lecturer spouting this nonsense.

Also, one of my favourite no-nonsense Youtubers did a video on this:

[video=youtube;1i80qaETtw8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i80qaETtw8[/video]

I feel ashamed to be born in the same country as these people

 

[C4Cat]

This seems relevant here:
https://www.brainpickings.org/2015/11/09/carl-sagan-science-democracy/

 

[GoneWithTheWindows]

I hope these people are never hired and end up begging on a street corner!

 

[Neoprod]

^, they're Humanities students so it's almost guaranteed :twisted:

 

[Oculate]

Also, one of my favourite no-nonsense Youtubers did a video on this:

Thanks for sharing, these brain-dead fallists still won't understand science if it struck them in the face

 

[GoneWithTheWindows]

Thanks for sharing, these brain-dead fallists still won't understand science if it struck them in the face

Yes but the strike that hits them in the face will be arranged using black magic. That is why.

 

[Flanders]

It is funny to me to see the same people insulting the students here and supporting Donald Trump and his supporters elsewhere. This is exactly the same mentality and the same driving force.

A lot of poster here are no better than the people in the video.

The same mentality and driving force? Are you high?

I'd support Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton every day of the week, thanks. Also has precisely sweet fsckall to do with this aside from folks like you champing at the bit to call someone a racist of course.

 

[Oculate]

Yes but the strike that hits them in the face will be arranged using black magic. That is why.

Can't argue with that logic

The video raises the previously stupid if not more damaging statement by Mbeki that HIV doesn't cause AIDS...

Best insult I've heard on this topic was

"If I wanted to kill myself, I'd jump from her ego to her IQ"

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

I'd support Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton every day of the week, thanks.

Haha, tough choice but I still can't see how anyone could think Trump is a good choice for office, he has zero political experience and the amount of crap that comes out of his mouth is staggering.

/back on topic

 

[Techne]

Haha, tough choice but I still can't see how anyone could think Trump is a good choice for office, he has zero political experience and the amount of crap that comes out of his mouth is staggering.

/back on topic

Well, to be fair, wikileaks uncovered the duplicitous nature of Clinton. I.e she has private and public opinions and she uses her public opinions to get elected. I.e. she will say anything and you never really know the amount of crap she privately believes.

To many people having a person full of crap in the open for everyone to see is preferable to the duplicity usually associated with politicians.

 

[Flanders]

Haha, tough choice but I still can't see how anyone could think Trump is a good choice for office, he has zero political experience and the amount of crap that comes out of his mouth is staggering.

I have no particular allegiance to Trump (hence my complete absence in the US elections thread) but I honestly do not like anything about Clinton. How this has anything to do with science must fall is beyond me.

Group A: The Earth is flat!
Group B: You're idiots.
Defenders of Group A: Some members of group B like pink polka dots! Burrrrn!

*facepalm*

/back on topic

indeed

 

[Techne]

Well,these fallists are not the only anti-science people aroung. SJWs and feminists will also undo the scientific method if they could.
Feminist PhD Candidate: Science Is Sexist Because It’s Not Subjective

College science classes are hostile to women and minorities because they use the scientific method, which assumes people can find reliable truths about the natural world through careful and sustained experimentation, concludes a recent dissertation by a doctoral candidate at the University of North Dakota.

Laura Parson, a student in the university’s education department, reviewed eight science class syllabi at a “Midwest public university” and said she discovered in them a hidden hostility to women and minorities:

Initial exploration of the STEM syllabi in this study did not reveal overt references to gender, such as through the use of gendered pronouns. However, upon deeper review, language used in the syllabi reflects institutionalized STEM teaching practices and views about knowledge that are inherently discriminatory to women and minorities by promoting a view of knowledge as static and unchanging, a view of teaching that promotes the idea of a passive student, and by promoting a chilly climate that marginalizes women.

Even though the course syllabi contained no “gendered assumptions” about students or other overtly discriminatory implications, Parson writes, they display prejudice against women and minorities because they refuse to entertain the possibility that “scientific knowledge is subjective.”

Women Are Too Stupid to Use Logic
Throughout her dissertation, Parson assumes and asserts that women and minorities are uniquely challenged by the idea that science can provide objective information about the natural world. This is an unfair assumption, she says, because the concept of objectivity is too hard for women and minorities to understand. “[N]otions of absolute truth and a single reality” are “masculine,” she says, referring to poststructuralist feminist theory.

Instead of promoting the idea that knowledge is constructed by the student and dynamic, subject to change as it would in a more feminist view of knowledge, the syllabi reinforce the larger male-dominant view of knowledge as one that students acquire and use make [sic] the correct decision.

 

[icyrus]

I have no particular allegiance to Trump (hence my complete absence in the US elections thread) but I honestly do not like anything about Clinton. How this has anything to do with science must fall is beyond me.

Group A: The Earth is flat!
Group B: You're idiots.
Defenders of Group A: Some members of group B like pink polka dots! Burrrrn!

*facepalm*

You complain about the students lack of understanding or belief in science but you support Trump who thinks global warming is a hoax by the Chinese.

You complain about the racism from the students but support Trump who has promoted racism and misogyny at every turn.

You complain about the ignorance of the students but you would be hard pressed to find a man who more embodies ignorance than Donald Trump.

But sure, you and them are nothing alike...