SEACOM reveals pricing

ok, so now i am confused, how much is 1mbps? how many MB does that equal? cuz from what i am reading it sounds like 1Mbps is 1 MB. so could someone explain this package to me as to how this would affect the supplier

STM1 = 155 Mbps = R673 per Mbps per month

what does this mean? does this mean that the supplier will be able to run a 155MB line for R673 a month or what lol, sorry im just confused atm lol
 
snail said:
STM1 = 155 Mbps = R673 per Mbps per month
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just me, or does it not seem very cheap. Just over 100K per month, you could make a fortune, not?
contention ratio of 20 people per 1Mbps * 155 = 3100 users at an average cost of approx. R35 per user, not? <excluding all other costs of course>

what am I missing?
 
That 673 is per Mbps so to get the full price for a line running at 155Mbps would be 155x673.

So what this means is that a ISP can run 38 4Mbps lines 24/7 uncapped at a cost of R2692.
 
air said:
just me, or does it not seem very cheap. Just over 100K per month, you could make a fortune, not?
contention ratio of 20 people per 1Mbps * 155 = 3100 users at an average cost of approx. R35 per user, not? <excluding all other costs of course>

what am I missing?
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Thats correct, with a content ratio of 20:1 on 1Mbps that would equal to R35 per month, but on adsl 20:1 is a bit high, I'd say 8:1 is more the norm.
 
Kloon said:
That 673 is per Mbps so to get the full price for a line running at 155Mbps would be 155x673.

So what this means is that a ISP can run 38 4Mbps lines 24/7 uncapped at a cost of R2692.
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R2692 each.

Just to put that in perspective, a 4mbps line can download over a Terabyte per month (working 24/7), or use up a 15 GB cap in under 9 hours.

Also, are these prices still relevant or have they changed since the rand went for a ball of ****? (Are they quoted in dollars or rands?)

But cheaper than SAT3 for sure.
 
ok, i understand it now, thanks for explaining it to me, so what exactly are telkoms pricing for their lines like this?
 
The price for an STM-64 connection, supplying 9.6 Gbps of bandwidth, is $ 1 663 875 or R 267-00 per Mbps per month.
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Mmmm ... saw these (best price) figures quite a while ago but never quite figured out how they cooked up R 267 per Mbps per month? (even using R7:$)

Going by their listed figures, by my calculations (using 240 month lifespan, R10:$, incl yearly maint & using payload throughput not line clocking), I get to a best price of R 743-75 per Mbps per month. Still pretty good but ...

what the above figures don't show is the sheer level of investment required to get this pricing. $1 663 875 is per STM-1 (155Mbps) if you commit to STM-64 (~10Gbps) capacity, which works out to $106 488 000. Add to this lifetime maintanance (20 yr) of $61 230 600 and you get to $167 718 600 or R1.667 billion. Oh and I forget to mention, you have to pay off the capital amount (R1 bil) in 3 yrs.

Wouldn't hold my breath that intl pricing will plummet just after June.

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Roman4604 said:
saw these (best price) figures quite a while ago
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LOL, just noticed ... this article *is* from quite a while ago!
 
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Mtunzini

Hi ,

Couple of questions

WHY the little seaside village of Mtunzini ? ( If I am not mistaken another undersea cable comes ashore there ? )

Some time back with the planning for the "Dube Trade Port" there was talk of a "Cyber-City" at this location -- LAMercy -- where Durbans new "International" airport is being built.

Any update on if SEACOM is likely to have any presence there. ( From the way the planners were touting this I would have thought that LaMercy was going to be the National HUB for SEACOM ? )

Can someone please point me to a detailed breakdown of the ownership of the consortium, and particularly the South African companies involved.

[ Should this post be in it's own thread ? Please move if required ]


Thanks


MW
 
ads said:
According the SEACOM, the price already includes Neotel's backhaul to Jo'burg, where most international bandwidth is hubbed anyway:
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Its the part from Jburg to me that scares me:eek:
 
MidnightWizard said:
Hi ,

Couple of questions

WHY the little seaside village of Mtunzini ? ( If I am not mistaken another undersea cable comes ashore there ? )

Some time back with the planning for the "Dube Trade Port" there was talk of a "Cyber-City" at this location -- LAMercy -- where Durbans new "International" airport is being built.

Any update on if SEACOM is likely to have any presence there. ( From the way the planners were touting this I would have thought that LaMercy was going to be the National HUB for SEACOM ? )

Can someone please point me to a detailed breakdown of the ownership of the consortium, and particularly the South African companies involved.

[ Should this post be in it's own thread ? Please move if required ]


Thanks


MW
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*bump...... No takers? ;)
 
They use Mtunzini probably for the seafloor leading up to the beach....

As for DTP having a "cyber-city", that is many many years away from reality, so there is no economic benefit for Seacom to be based there.. esp since the landing station is wholly operated by Neotel who have situated their PoP in JHB.
 
So, with Seacom up and running, what happened to these prices?

R 673 per Mbps per month = R 2.08 per Gig (assuming the line is used fully, all the time) or R 4.16 per Gig at 50% utilisation.

Openweb et al will provide local access - from my house to local datacentres (including the one Seacom lands at, I assume) for R 130 for 30 Gigs = R 4.33 per Gig

Total cost = R8.49 per Gig, to London.

So now, which one of you chicken**** ISPs is going to crack first.
 
labratza said:
dam if we can get prices even at like R15 per gig I will be happy
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I've excluded one or two things (London ISP, local routers, and authentication and billing equipment), but even with those extras, I think R 15 per Gig is a fair price in a competitive market. Either one of the big guys is going to offer reasonable pricing or some entrepreneurs are going to fill the gap. Go capitalism.
 
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