Short Voice Service

What is the duration of message? 5 seconds, 10 Seconds, 30 seconds I guess one minute is not really a short message, and what is the archival period? If I am out of cell range for 2 weeks will I get those messages on my return like I do SMS or are they lost in say 48 Hours ?
 
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Why do this when you can just MMS them a voice clip ? Nokia does with with its "Audio Message" type which is available on most of their handsets.

At 80c it is the cheapest way to deliver 3minutes of voice to someone. Plus your message is not stored on the network somewhere.
 
a small percentage of users have voice mailboxes activated/configured - That's seriosuly dorf.

I get people who'll try to phone me 15 times in the space of 30 minutes but won't leave a message. I thought they were dorf, but it turns out the majority of people are - cos the don't use voicemail.

BTW, with regards to this service, I know someone who's been using it for years - as it's cheaper to leave a message than phone the person (because he's a cheap skate ). So I guess the service is not new, the standard charge part is new.
 
I've know about some similair service.

You dial the number 082 121 xxxxxxx and get to their voice mail directly. Only they need to have voice mail activated.

This new service would be something I'll use a lot. Sometimes I just don't want to talk to the person on the other side. Murder by phone call?

"Sorry huns! I'm still out with the boys! See you soon. At least within a couple of days. Don't worry"
 
Drunkard #1 said:
The article doesn't say anything about it being free to receive. That's only mentioned on the other thread. I blame you, v3g, for starting a thread pointing to a thread pointing to the article. What was wrong with the first thread? Anyway, if it's free to receive, I guess it's no worse than our usual exorbitant cellular prices.
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Was trying to follow rpm's standard of posting a short quote and then a link in this 'news section'. ;)

And then I promptly stuffed it up by replying here in any case. :rolleyes:

Pricing wise this should be along SMS structures.
 
rwenzori said:
IMHO, and admitting I couldn't be bothered to wade through years of history to find web and newspaper references, you are not exactly operating in a "free" market. Not anyone can enter the market as a supplier, even if you ignore the massive capital required, for reasons of limited resources and, mainly, because of the govt. and their puppet "regulator". So the competition is very, very limited, and kept that way.

I suspect price-fixing on an unheard-of scale in the industry. I also suspect that , if any of it comes out at any time, the "Network Deal" will make the "Arms Deal" look like small change. Superprofits such as those made by your company are not possible in a "free" market.
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How many suppliers of voice and data services are there in South Africa?

From Telkom on on the one end of the scale to the many WiFi providers at the other end of the scale with the MTN's, Vodacom's, iBurst, Datapro's, IS's, etc. in the there as well.

Actually quite a vibrant market.

What is a decent NPBT% for a company? What % does your company achieve?
 
Rouxenator said:
Why do this when you can just MMS them a voice clip ? Nokia does with with its "Audio Message" type which is available on most of their handsets.

At 80c it is the cheapest way to deliver 3minutes of voice to someone. Plus your message is not stored on the network somewhere.
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Indeed MMS is a great way to do this. But then you need a MMS capable handset and the knowledge to use it. And the person receiving the message must have a MMS capable handset and the knowledge to use it.

And before you blast everyone for not having the latest (Nokia only, everything else is cr@p ;)) MMS handset, think what % of the population actually don't have a MMS handset or don't quite know how to use it.

MMS capability will probably be added as a next step, i.e. leave the voice message as per normal but delivery is via MMS as an option.
 
V3G, did Vodacom take into account that people might not want to receive voice messages?

I have two phones, and on the one I have deactivated voice messaging for a good reason. I have already received two SVS messages on that number.

How do I turn this facility off - PERMANENTLY? Surely there must be an opt-out function?

I don't want people to leave messages assuming that I have received them, because I just won't listen to them. Fact is, they will be wasting (from 9 Nov) 90c and I won't listen to it.
 
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Daniedj said:
I've know about some similair service.

You dial the number 082 121 xxxxxxx and get to their voice mail directly. Only they need to have voice mail activated.

This new service would be something I'll use a lot. Sometimes I just don't want to talk to the person on the other side. Murder by phone call?

"Sorry huns! I'm still out with the boys! See you soon. At least within a couple of days. Don't worry"
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Yes, very similar but easier to use and you don't need to configure your voice mail before someone can leave you a message.

Actually I think it 0xx-131-xxx-xxxx to access the voice mailbox directly. 0xx-121-xxx-xxxx is to access your own mail box from another phone or land-line.

I often use this straight-to-voicemail feature if I need to leave someone a detailed message and they're not close to e-mail and I don't want to bother them. Typically late at night.

Then it's quite handy to leave them a voice message and they can pick it up at their convenience.
 
vodacom3g said:
And before you blast everyone for not having the latest (Nokia only, everything else is cr@p ;)) MMS handset, think what % of the population actually don't have a MMS handset or don't quite know how to use it.
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Actually my mom's old 6070 supports audio messages and she managed to use it on a few occasions. So you do not need the latest and if you have audio message support you do not need to have any knowledge of MMS. The phone plays it back like voice mail (you can switch it to loudspeaker/handsfree mode).

I see that newer phones support MMS V1.3 which is 600kb, that will make for at least 6 minutes of talk time :p In the end all all comes down to connecting people ;)
 
Accessing voicemail from a landline takes me back to when we first got cellular back in 1995. I would dial 082 121 (random 7 digits) and more than often you would strike a mailbox that is waiting to be setup. The default password was always 1111 and in the end I had a nice handful of voicemail boxes that I could tap into if I wanted so have some fun. You would be amazed how much you can learn from people by just listening to their voicemail. Poor sods, back then they probably did not even know they had a voicemail box, let alone the fact that some teenage punk hijacked it :p
 
Antonf said:
V3G, did Vodacom take into account that people might not want to receive voice messages?

I have two phones, and on the one I have deactivated voice messaging for a good reason. I have already received two SVS messages on that number.

How do I turn this facility off - PERMANENTLY?
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I'll ask.

How do you turn off SMS's permanently?
 
Rouxenator said:
Accessing voicemail from a landline takes me back to when we first got cellular back in 1995. I would dial 082 121 (random 7 digits) and more than often you would strike a mailbox that is waiting to be setup. The default password was always 1111 and in the end I had a nice handful of voicemail boxes that I could tap into if I wanted so have some fun. You would be amazed how much you can learn from people by just listening to their voicemail. Poor sods, back then they probably did not even know they had a voicemail box, let alone the fact that some teenage punk hijacked it :p
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And there I was thinking your weird pastimes like SMSing yourself on a plane was a recent condition. :rolleyes::D
 
I know Vodacom can't or won't turn off SMS' permanently, but there is a useful little piece of software floating around that prevents you from receiving calls and/or SMS' from certain numbers (even calls from private numbers). I use it on my one number.

Fact is, if I don't have the SVS facility on a number I won't receive an SMS about a voice message...
 
Antonf said:
I know Vodacom can't or won't turn off SMS' permanently, but there is a useful little piece of software floating around that prevents you from receiving calls and/or SMS' from certain numbers (even calls from private numbers). I use it on my one number.

Fact is, if I don't have the SVS facility on a number I won't receive an SMS about a voice message...
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I've asked. Will let you know.

Do you have a link or details for the blacklisting handset software? There's another thread going that would like to get details on it.
 
vodacom3g said:
What is a decent NPBT% for a company? What % does your company achieve?
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Well, your operating margin is about 5-8 times that of a food retailer operating in a relatively free market, so I'd say yours is a tad high.

I'd be interested in a clear statement of your social responsibility spend ( NOT including your BBBBBEEEEE or whatever it is called deal which does not count to me ). Your annual report has little vague bits dotted about, but I cannot find a very clear statement. Maybe I am blind. Or is it all hidden under "Marketing"?

Regarding your "vibrant" market, how many companies are licensed to, and do, provide country-wide mobile voice and data communications, which is the market we are talking about?
 
rwenzori said:
Well, your operating margin is about 5-8 times that of a food retailer operating in a relatively free market, so I'd say yours is a tad high.

I'd be interested in a clear statement of your social responsibility spend ( NOT including your BBBBBEEEEE or whatever it is called deal which does not count to me ). Your annual report has little vague bits dotted about, but I cannot find a very clear statement. Maybe I am blind. Or is it all hidden under "Marketing"?

Regarding your "vibrant" market, how many companies are licensed to, and do, provide country-wide mobile voice and data communications, which is the market we are talking about?
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I'll ask about the social responsibility spend.

My understanding is that many networks are now operating in unlicensed bands supplying voice and data services. This is in addition to the licensed bands.
 
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