Snow Leopard: Mac's answer to Windows 7

kingmonty said:
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I also switched back to Gnome, KDE4 has improved a lot since then(he was on about 4.0 it is 4.2.X)but coming from KDE3 it is not easy to get used to but a great foundation for future development.
 
Aqua_lung said:
I also switched back to Gnome, KDE4 has improve a lot since then though but coming from KDE3 it is not easy to get used to but a great foundation for future development.
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I don't like KDE4 in the least. I run Gnome on everything where I *need* a WM, but I'm not a fan of it in general either.
 
PeterCH said:
Win 7 still doesn't compete with Mac OSX because Mac OSX is included with the hardware. Windows fans still ignore the fact that Apple is a hardware company and sells units which are all-inclusive - they have the OS, many end user applications (iDVD, DVD Player, iPhoto etc) and the hardware all in one bundle. In addition, Apple Pro Apps are a league above Windows versions (and are usually cheaper) and are frequently chosen over Windows versions - so even if Win 7 is as sugarly sweet as OS X Leopard (or even Tiger) - that won't make people switch their entire ecosystem and way of doing things.
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Windows in general doesn't compete with OSX because there's no way people can go and buy an entire new PC just to get the OS. However Windows 7 being more open platform than anything Apple is providing, is alot more easier to pick up. I actually don't see how anyone can see Apple's bundling of apps -and- hardware as "open" and "good" ? Hell the whole iStore and iTunes thing is an antitrust case waiting to happen .

And to quote you back: Even if Snow Leopard is as sugarly sweet as Windows 7 [without IE and a list of pre-installed browsers], it won't make people switch their entire ecosystem and way of doing things.

In the end, if you got a Mac, you will use whatever Apple gave you. If you don't use a Mac you will in most cases not use Apple software unless they are locking you in and FORCING you to use their software.
 
diabolus said:
In the end, if you got a Mac, you will use whatever Apple gave you.
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Very well said. I see the operating system as the bit that happens between switching on the computer and opening up Firefox/Photoshop/Dreamweaver/Cubase etc. I use Osx 10.5, Xp and Vista on a daily basis. Really I've come to realise there's actually so little to choose between them once your applications are up and running. But hey, fanboys will always feel the need to convince others theirs is best.
 
I use OSX for anything important, that I need to get done quickly and efficiently, also when you spend the greater part of your day staring at an OS then OSX fluidity is undeniably better, but I'm not a Fanboy, I use windows too, well... when I want to play crysis.
 
Firstly i think who cares what OS you use, no doubt windows 7 is great and i am sure this will be as well.

What i do not like about apple is even now that they are using intel their prices are massively expensive, i saw 4 gb ddr 2 800 mac ram going for nearly 4k at frontosa, so while apple may be far cheaper in terms of the OS the hardware is far far more expensive than buying a pc.

Talking about microsoft being anti competetive, may if i ask has why apple has not been brought to task as to why they only allow an apple OS to only be used on an apple intel pc? That is uncompetitive and forces people to buy massively over priced mac's. So the price of the OS is negated by the huge cost involved in upgrading a mac. Guess that only get mentioned when windows is costly and people forget how apple rip people off. 4k for 4gb ddr2 800 :p what a joke. That costs 800 bucks for a pc.

Please correct if i am mistake :p
 
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Aqua_lung said:
I also switched back to Gnome, KDE4 has improved a lot since then(he was on about 4.0 it is 4.2.X)but coming from KDE3 it is not easy to get used to but a great foundation for future development.
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Ja that was 4.0 which I did not like either. A lot of functionality was lost and it was buggy as hell. 4.3 will be released soon and things are just getting better.

Who cares what Linus thinks anyway, he went from Gnome to KDE because of the "user is an idiot" syndrome which is very prevalent in OS X. He was actually given a G5 Mac workstation but did not use OS X.

The KDE4 base is something new to build on. They scrapped the whole KDE foundation & code base and started from scratch which says a lot.
 
Tns said:
i have been using windoze7 and Mac10.4 for a while now. Would love to see how this new os compares, can anyone post some screenshots of the new mac os?


edit: aag, i found them http://mybroadband.co.za/news/Images/8377.html
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You should give 10.5 a bash while you're waiting for Snow Leopard - its been available for a year and a half and is pretty much on par with W7.
 
bwana said:
You should give 10.5 a bash while you're waiting for Snow Leopard - its been available for a year and a half and is pretty much on par with W7.
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would love to but i doubt the apple i have a G4 will be able to handle it. i am not go spend money on it either. :D
 
Think the article is misleading.
Should be:
Snow Leopard: Mac's answer to Windows 9

OSX is a few years ahead of Windows.:p
 
killadoob said:
What i do not like about apple is even now that they are using intel their prices are massively expensive, i saw 4 gb ddr 2 800 mac ram going for nearly 4k at frontosa, so while apple may be far cheaper in terms of the OS the hardware is far far more expensive than buying a pc.
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Thats something that still gets me about apple. Last time my work purchased a mac pro it was R11k for official apple ram. Pc server ram to the same specification that worked just as well: R3k. New motherboard after one in a G5 fried: 9k!!! :eek: That's my ultimate reason for using windows personally. Not so much to do with the actual OS. Also people are always going on about how much better their new shiny mac laptop performs compared to their old crummy pc laptop, and forget to mention the mac one was R10k more expensive. Obviously its got better specs and is going to perform well!
 
My Core2 Duo MacBook was no more expensive than PCs of equivalent power at the time (in fact, it could have been cheaper). A low end Celeron PC laptop would have been less expensive, though.

Anyone who buys memory from Apple needs a little less disposable income...
 
@peterch - perhaps a little clarification needed?

Win 7 still doesn't compete with Mac OSX because Mac OSX is included with the hardware. Windows fans still ignore the fact that Apple is a hardware company and sells units which are all-inclusive - they have the OS, many end user applications (iDVD, DVD Player, iPhoto etc) and the hardware all in one bundle. In addition, Apple Pro Apps are a league above Windows versions (and are usually cheaper) and are frequently chosen over Windows versions - so even if Win 7 is as sugarly sweet as OS X Leopard (or even Tiger) - that won't make people switch their entire ecosystem and way of doing things.
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  1. Where can I buy a retail PC without Windows preloaded? Pre-bundling OS with hardware is anti-competitive. I see it as a drawback, not a plus. I should be able to buy whatever hardware I like and install whatever software I like on it. If you're truly serious about platform independence, go open source.
  2. Apple bundles basic graphics apps. So does Windows. The Windows ones suck.
  3. Apple makes high-end multimedia apps. Hardly free, not included in the OS. Priced on par with other 3rd party oligarchic over-priced graphics apps. MS doesn't. MS makes business apps. Apple doesn't. Separate debate.
 
hexagon said:
My Core2 Duo MacBook was no more expensive than PCs of equivalent power at the time (in fact, it could have been cheaper). A low end Celeron PC laptop would have been less expensive, though.

Anyone who buys memory from Apple needs a little less disposable income...
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I know incredible connection is the last place one should shop around, but the joe public it counts....and this is a very raw camparison but still: twice the memory (although it is prolly DDR2 vs DDR3), twice the hdd size, sure lessor video card, and i dont know what the warranty is on the apple. and a 2 grand diffrence.

MACBOOK 13" 2.0 ALUMINIUM (MB466)

2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB DDR3 Memory
160GB hard drive1
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics
Standard keyboard
Aluminum unibody
R 15,999.95

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ACER ASPIRE 6935-644G32MN

Intel® Core 2 Duo T6400 processor 2.0 GHz
4096MB RAM
320GB HDD
Dual layer multi format DVD writer
Integrated webcam & 802.11n WLAN
Integrated Bluetooth and memory card reader Fingerprint reader
nVidea GeForce 9300M-GS graphics with 512M dedicated video RAM
16" CrystalBrite display
3 Year collect, repair and return warranty
R 13,999.95
 
An Apple Mac is like buying an Xbox or PS3, you could build a Gaming rig to game but the mac is an all in one solution and will be a bit more pricey just like console games.

Microsoft does not have an R&D department designing notebooks and PCs they just code ****, but thank goodness they don't build PCs..... don't wan't my PC to RROD on me.
 
BravoDrie said:
I know incredible connection is the last place one should shop around, but the joe public it counts....and this is a very raw camparison but still: twice the memory (although it is prolly DDR2 vs DDR3), twice the hdd size, sure lessor video card, and i dont know what the warranty is on the apple. and a 2 grand diffrence.
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I should have mentioned I bought in 2007, when I did the comparison.
 
Hate to say it, but recently OSx has been 1 step ahead of Windows - wouldnt surprise me if this is the case here.

But for me? I still don't see why I should change off of XP for windows 7
 
burntproduce said:
Very well said. I see the operating system as the bit that happens between switching on the computer and opening up Firefox/Photoshop/Dreamweaver/Cubase etc. I use Osx 10.5, Xp and Vista on a daily basis. Really I've come to realise there's actually so little to choose between them once your applications are up and running. But hey, fanboys will always feel the need to convince others theirs is best.
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It's like the new cars, there is nothing really new or special about the new cars (technology wise), only that it is superb. Quoting from SABC3's Car Quest.

The styling is so smooth, and really makes me feel wonderful. It handles like it was build for the bends.

I guess you can say the same thing about Mac OSX and Windows 7? Is IT turning into a Fashion Geek Monster?
 
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