Speeding biker kills traffic cop

I could see how something like this would happen, biker thinks he can dodge past, both of them duck in the same direction... crash. A lot less likely to happen in a car as they have a lot less room to play with.

Condolences to traffic cop's family.
 
Feel sorry for both hey. If the guy was not speeding then the cop would of not jumped out. Just really sad,people should never speed :(
 
Pmb cops, not the brightest, i had one pull me off the highway on the INSIDE lane around a right hand corner, then while sitting there with him he pulls off a truck, the truck stops 200m down the road, the cop then indicates to the truck that he must reverse back to them, the driver signals no, the cop then signals he's gonna hand cuff him if he doesn't.

I've had it before where one cop runs out into road in the night with just a flashlight in his hand on the highway, not for me but still.
 
Pity about the cop being killed though. Condolences to his family.
 
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bboy said:
Pmb cops, not the brightest, i had one pull me off the highway on the INSIDE lane around a right hand corner, then while sitting there with him he pulls off a truck, the truck stops 200m down the road, the cop then indicates to the truck that he must reverse back to them, the driver signals no, the cop then signals he's gonna hand cuff him if he doesn't.

I've had it before where one cop runs out into road in the night with just a flashlight in his hand on the highway, not for me but still.
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Yes, it is problematic that they don't wear their hi-visibility vest when doing their duties. Almost drove into one doing pointsman duty in cloudy weather. I don't think they get proper training and sometimes cause dangerous situations themselves.

But then again the general public are stupid too, putting a traffic triangle 5m from their broken down vehicle. They need to put it at least 45m back, and even more if it is around a corner.
 
I heard that this biker was previously trapped at 159 in a 120 zone, and refused to stop. He then evaded pursuers. Further down the road this officer stopped with her lights on, put on her high vis vest and tried to stop this criminal. He then took her out.

Sorry, there's no justification for the motor cycle rider in this case. If he was going too fast to stop for or avoid something that stepped into road in front of him, then he was going too fast, full stop. Just because you have momentum doesn't give you right of way!

People bitch and moan about metro hiding and taking photos as being a money-making exercise with no effect on road safety - now here is a traffic officer trying to do a proper job and people bitch and moan about that?!

What's a preferred solution? Govern all motor vehicles to 60km/h?
Just seems some people are never happy and will moan and bitch for the sake of moaning and bitching.
 
KalMaverick said:
What about condolences to the family of the motorcyclist who also died because a cop jumped in front of him?

1. Biker was stupid for speeding.

2. Cop was stupid for jumping in front of said speeding biker.

Use a little bit of common sense and either trap the person or get his number plate or get into a car and chase him. Idiots.
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Fully agree with this... they selling the 1 side of the story.
Yes, it's wrong in both cases but they really trying hard to only sell 1 side of the story.
 
I'm finding it difficult to scrape together any sympathy for the cop due to my own experience.

Today was the second time in a week that traffic cops standing on the Rigel ave onramp to the highway were pulling cars off by walking into the middle of the onramp.
Problem with that is .. it's an onramp .. its built specifically to enable cars to speed up to join the flow on the hiway so suddenly having to brake on a road where you normally don't expect pedestrians isn't safe at all.
Mark my words one of them is gonna get clipped sooner or later.
 
PsyWulf said:
Would like to see you prove your implication that it's possible to stop within a short distance at any speed above 80km/h
To give you an idea:
http://www.liikenneturva.fi/www/fi/animaatiot/mp_kaikkikieliversiot/StoppingDistanceMotorcycle.swf

It takes very focused concentration and quite a bit of skill to decelerate that much without locking the front wheel and going into a slide - I sure as hell can't do it
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Who you talking too?

Anyway, they tried to pull him over at 44km before this incident. He was not man enough to take responsibilty for his actions initially and the end result is his and another persons death..
 
The article doesn't say that she was in the road. She could have been on the shoulder for all any of you know, maybe he directed his bike at her and thought he would run her over and then get away. None of us were there so we can't really comment on it now can we.

Also what if he was an armed robber or hijacker making a getaway. If this had happened with a taxi, then I'm pretty sure everyone would be going on about how the taxi was speeding and then killed an innocent person, but a biker can't ever be speeding or doing illegal stuff on the road, its only people who are in "cages".
 
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supersunbird said:
Who you talking too?
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Anybody who feels like taking the point on

Anyway, they tried to pull him over at 44km before this incident. He was not man enough to take responsibilty for his actions initially and the end result is his and another persons death..
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As mentioned before,this was bound to happen irrespective of wrongdoing.

Was he speeding: yes
Was the cop stupid for jumping in front of a moving vehicle notoriously difficult to decelerate: undoubtedly
Preventable: yes,the motorcyclist could have been going less than 100 or the officer could have _not_ stepped in the way

He brought a knife ( his body ) to a gunfight ( collision between bike and human ) guess who wins. The metro cops risk their lives everytime they step in front of vehicles,the only reason this article was fortunate enough to make such a headline is because of the speeding angle,were he clocked below 130 we'd be reading about "stupid cop steps in front of moving vehicle killing 2"
 
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Am I the first to comment that the cop who was rammed into's surname includes the word ram?
 
evilstebunny said:
I'm finding it difficult to scrape together any sympathy for the cop due to my own experience.

Today was the second time in a week that traffic cops standing on the Rigel ave onramp to the highway were pulling cars off by walking into the middle of the onramp.
Problem with that is .. it's an onramp .. its built specifically to enable cars to speed up to join the flow on the hiway so suddenly having to brake on a road where you normally don't expect pedestrians isn't safe at all.
Mark my words one of them is gonna get clipped sooner or later.
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They pulled me over last week on the Nellmapius onramp onto the R21 N. Whole stream of cars behind me and I was already going 80km/h have to brake and pull over while Mr metro police man checks my license. Don't mind that they doing it, but they should really plan it better.
 
badtrev said:
The article doesn't say that she was in the road. She could have been on the shoulder for all any of you know, maybe he directed his bike at her and thought he would run her over and then get away. None of us were there so we can't really comment on it now can we.
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Are you seriously suggesting a rider on a motorcycle thought he could knock into a person at over 100km/h and "get away"? How? in an ambulance?
You're suggesting a ludicrous scenario, when numerous people here have experience with metro cops who think Newton's laws won't apply to them.

badtrev said:
Also what if he was an armed robber or hijacker making a getaway.
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Well then mission failed.

badtrev said:
If this had happened with a taxi, then I'm pretty sure everyone would be going on about how the taxi was speeding and then killed an innocent person, but a biker can't ever be speeding or doing illegal stuff on the road, its only people who are in "cages".
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How about comparing apples with apples? How many lives is the driver of an average-loaded taxi responsible for? How many lives is the rider of an average-loaded motorcycle responsible for?

I don't think anyone is disputing whether the rider was breaking the law, the point is metro cops behave dangerously on highways and end up with results like this.
Arguably, they have more important tasks to attend to, that could benefit a far greater number of road users, rather than waiting under a bush until someone inevitably breaks a rule in a way that harmed nobody.
But as we all know, those tasks don't fatten the xmas bonus.
 
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