Springbok rugby coach developments...

DanDango

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Jeez they have a lot of extra people hanging around. A media manager and a PR manager. I think to many chiefs in charge might be one of the problems.

Awesome to have Rassie and snorre back. Now I can watch rugby again.
Pieter de Villiers
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The real Peter de Villiers would have been better. It would be interesting to see Zim qaulify for the world cup.
 

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The real Peter de Villiers would have been better. It would be interesting to see Zim qaulify for the world cup.
They have 2 chances, one is to win the Africa qualifier where they have the best chance. Possible winners include, Namibia, Kenya or Zimbabwe.

If they don't succeed there as champions they will proceed to the World Repechage where they go up against the best of the possible qualifying teams from all over the world in France.

This is if they are runners up at the Africa qualifier.
 

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Nope, head coach != scrum coach
Ja, no. We don't need a speciality coach for every single thing. Too many chiefs. The players at that level should know how to scrum and they can get a technical consultant if for some reason they don't know.
 

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They have 2 chances, one is to win the Africa qualifier where they have the best chance. Possible winners include, Namibia, Kenya or Zimbabwe.

If they don't succeed there as champions they will proceed to the World Repechage where they go up against the best of the possible qualifying teams from all over the world in France.

This is if they are runners up at the Africa qualifier.
Wild cards is Uganda and Madagascar.
 

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Ja, no. We don't need a speciality coach for every single thing. Too many chiefs. The players at that level should know how to scrum and they can get a technical consultant if for some reason they don't know.
That is not how structured coaching works.
 

rietrot

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That is not how structured coaching works.
Ja. I'm saying we are adding to many unnecessary structures.

Soon you will have a director of rugby to direct all the 50 coaches.
Then a head coach,
a backline coach
A forwards coach
A conditioning coach
A kicking coach
A line-out coach
A scrum coach
A attacking coach
A defence coach +++
And a lot of confused players.
 

Fulcrum29

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Wild cards is Uganda and Madagascar.
I think Uganda may have a chance. Namibia is struggling...

It is funny that Tahiti is still in contention for qualifying and that Germany is playing Samoa in June/July for their RWC 2019 spot.

In a positive light, tier 1 may soon have contenders from below. Keep a eye on China for the years to come, they have pumped big money last year in developing the game at all levels in their country.

Canada is out for blood to win the World Repechage.
 

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I think Uganda may have a chance. Namibia is struggling...

It is funny that Tahiti is still in contention for qualifying and that Germany is playing Samoa in June/July for their RWC 2019 spot.

In a positive light, tier 1 may soon have contenders from below. Keep a eye on China for the years to come, they have pumped big money last year in developing the game at all levels in their country.

Canada is out for blood to win the World Repechage.
Germany rugby is on the up, Samoa might be a hurdle to far.
 

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Germany rugby is on the up, Samoa might be a hurdle to far.
The vaunted Samoan physicality alone will probably be too much for them to handle.

Huge step up moving from the European second/third tier to facing bone-rattlers from the Pacific.
 

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Ja. I'm saying we are adding to many unnecessary structures.

Soon you will have a director of rugby to direct all the 50 coaches.
Then a head coach,
a backline coach
A forwards coach
A conditioning coach
A kicking coach
A line-out coach
A scrum coach
A attacking coach
A defence coach +++
And a lot of confused players.
That is still not how it works. How many specialised coaches does this current setup entail? Do remember, with the previous setup we had issues and beside the issues many were outgoing coaches which had to be supplemented by continuity. The Brendan Venter experiment is which spur on SARU to turn coaching into a more administrative role to ensure ongoing development between our players bases, here and abroad. This resulted in Rassie Erasmus bringing a European perspective to our soil. We now have a similar setup to Ireland, Wales and England. All to enhance management on the rugby level where the executives can pay more attention to driving the policies.

I'm not even touching on how coaching works. I'm talking about our Springbok setup here, because in the greater plan the Springboks are supplemented by more coaches, the work done on Super Rugby, PRO14 and provincial level which includes schools, clubs and academies (also performance centres).

Yes, you do have personalised needs where a specialist coach will be brought in to develop a certain skill in a team or individual player. Coaching is much more than practising your desire, the time invested in analysis, research, regulation, etc. are only part of the duty and responsibility.
 

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That is still not how it works. How many specialised coaches does this current setup entail? Do remember, with the previous setup we had issues and beside the issues many were outgoing coaches which had to be supplemented by continuity. The Brendan Venter experiment is which spur on SARU to turn coaching into a more administrative role to ensure ongoing development between our players bases, here and abroad. This resulted in Rassie Erasmus bringing a European perspective to our soil. We now have a similar setup to Ireland, Wales and England. All to enhance management on the rugby level where the executives can pay more attention to driving the policies.

I'm not even touching on how coaching works. I'm talking about our Springbok setup here, because in the greater plan the Springboks are supplemented by more coaches, the work done on Super Rugby, PRO14 and provincial level which includes schools, clubs and academies (also performance centres).

Yes, you do have personalised needs where a specialist coach will be brought in to develop a certain skill in a team or individual player. Coaching is much more than practising your desire, the time invested in analysis, research, regulation, etc. are only part of the duty and responsibility.
And this is the very problem. Coaches that don't coach, but work on driving policy, wtf is that. What policy exactly keeps them so busy. The previous group of coaches couldn't even put together a proper game plan. No wonder our players look confused when they get the ball.

I guess you are somehow involved in some rugby. That's why you struggle to see what's wrong in the very system you opperate in.
 

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And this is the very problem. Coaches that don't coach, but work on driving policy, wtf is that. What policy exactly keeps them so busy. The previous group of coaches couldn't even put together a proper game plan. No wonder our players look confused when they get the ball.

I guess you are somehow involved in some rugby. That's why you struggle to see what's wrong in the very system you opperate in.
SARU is a business like any other, so is any commercial component to any union. Policy is driven by management. The director of rugby is the bridge between the executive and coaching hierarchy.

No, the last I was full-time involved in rugby was back in 2009.
 

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SARU is a business like any other, so is any commercial component to any union. Policy is driven by management. The director of rugby is the bridge between the executive and coaching hierarchy.

No, the last I was full-time involved in rugby was back in 2009.
They should keep the business side separate and get the rugby guys to play some rugby again and completely kick the politicians out. The business side will be sorted if the team play decent rugby. It is really quite that simple to just get back to basics.

Anyway we'll see what Russie does. Hopefully all the useless bureaucracy doesn't hinder him.
 
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