Springboks vs England 2012 - 3 Test tour

Chris said:
I'm reading on some international websites that Alberts' first try shouldn't have been allowed.

Anyone able to explain why?
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True. The ball came out of the tunnel.

If the England flank had stepped over it, then it would be OK, but it passed in front of his foot meaning it came out of the tunnel.
 
When the ball is fed into a Scrum, a forwards feet needs to touch the ball before coming out of the Scrum, if it doesn't touch their feet, it's a reset Scrum.

The sky pundits were saying it never touch forwards feet and hence should be a reset Scrum
 
Glad for Meyer after 2 wins and taking the series. However, there was something missing from this game and I think it has to do with vision in the running game. We go LEFT when the defense is CLEARLY OVERPOPULATED on the LEFT. We go RIGHT when the defense is CLEARLY OVERPOPULATED on the RIGHT :confused:

The English defense was good but it was made look great because we ran INTO tackles :wtf:.
 
Ekstasis said:
Glad for Meyer after 2 wins and taking the series. However, there was something missing from this game and I think it has to do with vision in the running game. We go LEFT when the defense is CLEARLY OVERPOPULATED on the LEFT. We go RIGHT when the defense is CLEARLY OVERPOPULATED on the RIGHT :confused:

The English defense was good but it was made look great because we ran INTO tackles :wtf:.
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The result of having skaapie Morne in there ;)
 
wallsend said:
When the ball is fed into a Scrum, a forwards feet needs to touch the ball before coming out of the Scrum, if it doesn't touch their feet, it's a reset Scrum.

The sky pundits were saying it never touch forwards feet and hence should be a reset Scrum
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I'm sure I saw it touch the flanks or props feet?
 
Ekstasis said:
The General! :erm: Who would you prefer in his pos.?
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The General my poephol, he's been off form for a while now. Peter Grant or Lambie for 10, JDJ to replace that moegoe Meisiekind and a 15 replacement in Aplon or whoever.
 
Peter Grant is a solid provincial player but there is no way in hell he;s an international player.
 
MickeyD said:
That proves that it went through the tunnel as it did not pass under any players' feet. It passed in front of the flanker's foot.

But I'll take the try, thank you!
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Doesn't he just have to touch it with his boot?
 
sand_man said:
Doesn't he just have to touch it with his boot?
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AFAIK it must pass "under" one of the players in the scrum's feet (behind the heels). I saw the ball come straight through the tunnel and the flank tried to hook it. Instead he nudged it forward with his toe (ook maar net net).
 
efitol said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaHv5xfjw18

Pay close attention to the clock when Morne kicks the conversion.
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Hmm I see that but I don't think the time carried on and so is not part of the replays. I think morne took the conversion quickly while they were still showing the replay of the try and so they ended up giving a quick shot of him taking the conversion however play had started again which is why the clock didn't seem to change. ie the shot of Morne taking the conversion was actually a replay of sorts, and the time is independent of replays.
 
BobsLawnService said:
Peter Grant is a solid provincial player but there is no way in hell he;s an international player.
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How would you know? He's had little or no chance to prove it. And the Stormers are doing so bad this last couple of years , hey?
 
MickeyD said:
AFAIK it must pass "under" one of the players in the scrum's feet (behind the heels). I saw the ball come straight through the tunnel and the flank tried to hook it. Instead he nudged it forward with his toe (ook maar net net).
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I'm quite sure it doesn't have to pass under a players foot. It merely has to be legally played by any player in the scrum, regardless of where it goes thereafter (otherwise poorly hooked toe-punts would count as a reset, which means every time you feel pressure on the front row, you as the hooker can just kick it out again). The law used to state that only the hooker can play the ball and therefore it is only playable after moving backwards from his feet, but I'm sure this changed a long time ago already.

And yes, we get the Bok games here on Setanta. I felt like the whole of Singapore was watching me when I was the lone sole to stand up and sing the national anthem at 11pm last night...
 
I don't know why I'm arguing as I don't care (Bokke scored!) but here goes:

20.7 WHEN THE SCRUM BEGINS
(a) Play in the scrum begins when the ball leaves the hands of the scrum half.
(b) If the scrum half throws in the ball and it comes out at either end of the tunnel, the ball must be thrown in again unless a free kick or penalty has been awarded.
(c) If the ball is not played by a front row player, and it goes straight through the tunnel and comes out behind the foot of a far prop without being touched, the scrum half must throw it in again.
http://www.irblaws.com/EN/laws/5/20/198/during-the-match/scrum/when-the-scrum-begins/#clause_198
 
Let me be the first to congratulate the Springboks on well deserved series win, well done chaps.
 
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