State capture inquiry begins

The ANC might have to scrap their cadre deployment but that is not going to stop cadre deployment because simply scrapping the policy will not stop the practice, maybe the influence will be reduced but I am not sure to what extent.
 
TheChamp said:
The ANC might have to scrap their cadre deployment but that is not going to stop cadre deployment because simply scrapping the policy will not stop the practice, maybe the influence will be reduced but I am not sure to what extent.
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The ANC won't do anything the opposition wants.
 
Priapus said:
The ANC won't do anything the opposition wants.
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If it is found to be illegal in court they have no choice, but as I said it won't be too much of a problem to scrap the policy and just continue with cadre deployment without having a policy shining light into your darkness.
 
When I said this, it was contended,

www.dailymaverick.co.za

Thuli Madonsela: South Africans should question whether State Capture is really over

With the release of the final report from the State Capture commission that Thuli Madonsela set in motion, the former Public Protector warns of the gravity of what has been uncovered.
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Thuli Madonsela: South Africans should question whether State Capture is really over​

Former Public Protector Thuli Madonsela wants the public to take away one urgent lesson from the findings of the State Capture commission: there is a critical difference between corruption and State Capture.

Speaking to Daily Maverick two days after the release of the final Zondo report, Madonsela said it was vital to understand how much more “nefarious” State Capture is.

In the case of ordinary corruption, she says, people are bribed for financial gain. But in the case of State Capture, people are not just being bribed, but being placed into certain key state roles to carry out specific actions.

“You [as a State Capture perpetrator] have substituted yourself for the democratic process. This is the undermining of democracy by hijacking the state,” Madonsela said.

She believes that it is crucial that the State Capture commission’s findings reach as many people as possible, because: “People should be afraid that this happened and that it could happen again.”

Given the way in which secretive government bodies like the State Security Agency have been revealed to have been captured, Madonsela questions how certain we should be that State Capture is indeed over.

“What were the [State Capture] leviathan’s tentacles?” she asks. “Have they all been chopped?”
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R13... said:
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WRAP | Zuma to challenge Zondo Report, plans to go to JSC | News24

The Jacob Zuma Foundation has briefed the media on behalf of the former president on his response to the state capture report.
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Yet, his parole condition conveniently allows him to go to other Jacob Zuma Foundation conventions, and to go to casinos... It doesn't surprise me though since correctional services are protecting Jacob Zuma's medical parole and parole conditions.
 
COMMENT | Zuma's daughter, Duduzile, is also here. She was an instigator of violence on social media almost exactly a year ago when the former president was sent to jail.

- Pieter du Toit
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but... she hasn't been arrested. Pieter du Toit better tread lightly.

To continue,

COMMENT | Manyi proceeds to launch personal attacks on Zondo. This is full-on populism.

- Pieter du Toit
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then,

EDITOR'S NOTE | We have decided to suspend the live stream from the briefing by the Zuma Foundation. The briefing conducted by his spokesperson, Mzwanele Manyi, contains various untested allegations and falsehoods related to the Zondo Commission, Chief Justice Raymond Zondo, and the establishment of the commission. We will continue to cover the briefing and point out Manyi's inconsistencies in the statement he is currently delivering.

- Pieter du Toit, Assistant Editor.
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I have now also listened to Manyi's ramblings... it is not good,


I can only hope that the state capture reports don't cause any more civil disobedience, all it needs is a catalyst.
 
I am intrigued by News24 cutting their live stream, in their given context, when they give this same airtime to others. They chose to go there, on an open invitation, and by now they should know that Jacob Zuma is never in attendance even when it is announced such as. I believe the last time Zuma was in attendance was when the arms deal trial was set to start and then impeded with another matter which turned into more matters still unresolved to this day.

Manyi rambled today, all their claims need to be supported. The only highlight I can agree with which is not related to today’s events is the remark made by Vuyani Ngalwana which has been touched on by Manyi, but that is not my place to legally nitpick on. The reports are going to be challenged where the courts will be tasked with sorting out these matters.

The question is more when the main implicated is on course to be prosecuted. These pre-trials, in my view, aren’t going to happen any time soon. The arms deal saga can also still be dragged out, and I don’t see the system being too keen on concurrently prosecuting Zuma. I would appreciate seeing the prosecutions set into motion within 2022.
 
surface said:
They should investigate this guy & his lawyers. Where is the money coming from? Are lawyers paid in socks ?
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Perhaps Dali gave Zuma a special rate, or is doing it in kind? Perhaps he is being compensated by a third party. There is nothing to investigate here. One may question it, but it isn't illegal.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
I am intrigued by News24 cutting their live stream, in their given context, when they give this same airtime to others. They chose to go there, on an open invitation, and by now they should know that Jacob Zuma is never in attendance even when it is announced such as. I believe the last time Zuma was in attendance was when the arms deal trial was set to start and then impeded with another matter which turned into more matters still unresolved to this day.
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I saw them cutting the feed on their site (there was an editor's note). Was odd.
Fulcrum29 said:
Manyi rambled today, all their claims need to be supported. The only highlight I can agree with which is not related to today’s events is the remark made by Vuyani Ngalwana which has been touched on by Manyi, but that is not my place to legally nitpick on. The reports are going to be challenged where the courts will be tasked with sorting out these matters.
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Saw a part of the broadcast while in SPAR, the ****'s ramblings infuriated me to no end.

You idiots looted our country dry, destroyed our country, yet you have the NERVE to act like you did nothing wrong?? - my thought when seeing the broadcast
 
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