Stuck on EDGE, unable to switch to 3G (E1820 / E1752?)

@ginggs: Watch whether you do not contradict yourself in the same post:

Your modem suffers from poor quality cables and indication is that it fails to register to the network. And it is the only cause.

My modem do the same things, but this cause is clearly excluded, it has to be some another cause.

Im sorry, in behalf of my modem I have to protest against such unfair discrimination. :)
 
Hi everyone!
I stay in the Randburg, Kyasands erea. Before I bought the 5g contract, they checked for me if I'm covered or not. Yes I have 100% 3g cover, bright red. I got home and pluged the modem in. (PC) When I have it in the front port, I only get edge coverage, speed 50klps. It is slower then my tortoise! But when I put it at the back port, It shows me that I'm connected WCDMA or what ever! 21.8Mbps. When I try to open a web side, I looses signal completely! No webside openes! The modem also get so hot as well!
But when I take my PC and the dongle to a different area, it works 100%. Edenvale, Speed 5Mbps. And the dongle does not get hot.

I have logged a call about 2 weeks ago. The deadline to short this out is today 09h53. I have phoned them and they are busy working on the problem. Mr. Thabu is at the tower to solve the problem! Maybe this will be sorted out by the end of today. Where the hell do you pay R299 a month for 5g and can only download about 500Mb a month!!! And you can't take the left over data over to the next month!!! So Im losing big time here!!! If this does not get sorted out soon, I'm taking leagle action against Cell C!!!

Overall, I think Cell C's help was very bad in this case. I'm very dissapointed in them!

I hope Mr. Cell C Guru see's this comment!
 
Another solution to fix this problem would be to open up CELL c dashboard go Settings MENU - options - network - network type - band (change it to something else and apply the changes once you do receive WCDMA you are sorted had this problem happening to me with the black dongle, the white dongle was able to pick up 3G without any issues but once doing the necessary changes sorted out the black dongle and i was able to connect using 3G/HSPA+....
 
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Thanks RichardG
I hope you were responding to my complain? If so, i will check it out tonight at home and see if it works.
But why would the dongle get so hot?

Thanks
 
Yes, I was responding to your complaint - I also had the same issue whereby I was only able to connect EDGE only not even 3G with the black dongle but the white dongle worked perfectly out of the box but after 2days or so using the black dongle and downloading at dial-up speeds took me over 2 days or so to download 500 meg, i said to myself this is BS, there has to be something I can do to force it to use 3G or something, and discovered by just doing that under network type - band, would show WCDMA working finally happen more than once did the same process and bang wooosh speeds....

Today the seem to be doing some maintenance on a base station or network cause I am getting HSPA+ the whole time before it would jump
 
I have before went in to the menu and made allot of changes and adjustments and nothing worked. But will still go tonight and do the band thing.

Okay now, I just got feedback from the technical department of Cell C. They were in my area and tested the coverage. They only get 2g - Edge coverage. No 3g coverage! Now why do they show on their coverage map that I have full coverage in the Kyasands area??? But just 3km's away in Northriding I get 10Mbps!!! Is this false information they put on to get customers? They say that coverage will only be availible in March. What a lot off BS!!! We'll I do believe that I can cancell the contract.
 
I have before went in to the menu and made allot of changes and adjustments and nothing worked. But will still go tonight and do the band thing.

Okay now, I just got feedback from the technical department of Cell C. They were in my area and tested the coverage. They only get 2g - Edge coverage. No 3g coverage! Now why do they show on their coverage map that I have full coverage in the Kyasands area??? But just 3km's away in Northriding I get 10Mbps!!! Is this false information they put on to get customers? They say that coverage will only be availible in March. What a lot off BS!!! We'll I do believe that I can cancell the contract.

What people need to remember is that CellC (and all the other providers for that matter) rely on software to generate the coverage maps. Often in these cases where coverage is "predicted" but not obtained there is some physical object (i.e. buildings, trees, etc) which the software could not account for skewing the coverage. Reporting faults and getting technicians on site to test is the only way to find these dead spots.

This is part of the lesson you need to learn when you adopt wireless technologies. Terrain and physical objects interfere with signal and effect coverage. There is always going to be an unpredictable element.
 
I have sorted my problem out. I used a USB extention to get my dongle out through my window, just hanging out through the window.
Before I used to get only 0.50 to 100 Kbps. Took me about 40 to 60 minutes to download a 5M mp3 song. Last night I got about 1.2Mbps speed, much faster! I downloaded a song of 5M in about 1 minute. This morning I got 1.64 Mbps. I will be happy with this speed if it stays like this.

Download - 1.64
Upload - 0.41
Ping - 61
 
I feel the need to contribute to this conversation as well, as it seems this “stuck on EDGE” issue is quite well spread, being experienced everywhere from Cape Town, Bloemfontein, Gauteng and Durban (by looking at the locations of some of the posters here).

Firstly, let me say that I am glad that there is a possible workaround to the problem, by going onto your dashboard or MDMA and forcing it to selecting the desired band to operate in. I do, however, think it is unacceptable that this is a long term solution, because it simply isn’t. Sure, we’re all tech savvy people and we manage to figure these things out and get all excited with our astounding technical prowess, but let’s say your parents had to get this Cell C speedstick, how would they be solving this issue? They don’t understand switching bands etc, and I think a very large number of people out there don’t know that either. The problem also isn’t solved if you use a 3G router that doesn’t allow you to force the operational band.

I live in Paulshof, JHB, and got my black speedstick on 6/11/2010, before the official launch date in Gauteng (thanks Dion Wired). For that first while, everything was running at close to 10mbps all the time, no disconnects whatsoever. On the launch day (I think it was 17/11/2010) the quality of my connection dropped dramatically. I read that some USB ports don’t supply enough power, so I tried one of the ports on the back of my PC, and voila, everything is working like a charm (though at a bit slower speed). During December I purchased a Netgear MBRN3000 router from Incredible, such that I can put the modem wherever I want to and have multiple devices online at the same time, and everything was working like a dream. Later during December, I went on leave and came back yesterday (05/01/2011), only to find my connection stuck on EDGE all the time. Even when following the steps given in this thread to get it unstuck, I would have to fiddle for hours before I finally see the WCDMA signal on my dashboard.

Regardless, nothing I could do would make it be anything other than EDGE on my brand new Netgear router… so now what? Did I spend R1400 for no reason? There seems to be no way to force the router to use a specific band, and the EDGE signal is more than 10dbms stronger than the WCDMA signal (according to MDMA and the Cell C dashboard).

My feeling is that the network is slowly getting more congested, and the further you are away from a tower, the worse you will be affected as more people are coming online between you and the tower. I think a solution has to be provided, somehow, by Cell C, and probably in terms of upgrading congested towers. Though we lot are able to find a messy workaround, most people won’t, and this shouldn’t be the case.
 
Regardless, nothing I could do would make it be anything other than EDGE on my brand new Netgear router… so now what? Did I spend R1400 for no reason? There seems to be no way to force the router to use a specific band, and the EDGE signal is more than 10dbms stronger than the WCDMA signal (according to MDMA and the Cell C dashboard).
Try this.
 
I don't know whether I'll be able to figure that out for you. I doubt that's the problem, though. One would hope that if a USB port is added to fulfil one role only, that it would be up to specifications. /shrug
 
I don't know whether I'll be able to figure that out for you. I doubt that's the problem, though. One would hope that if a USB port is added to fulfil one role only, that it would be up to specifications. /shrug
It should be in the manual that came with the router, otherwise read off the specifications of the power supply bundled with the unit.
 
I found the manual online, but it doesn't mention the USB port power. The device's power supply is a standard 12VDC/1A output. Perhaps I can try and switch off the Wifi and try only a wired LAN connection, assuming that requires less power. That 1A might be a bit low, as I read up that the E1820 requires a max of 500mA to operate.
 
Perhaps I can try and switch off the Wifi and try only a wired LAN connection, assuming that requires less power.
Good idea.

What I'm starting to suspect is that the weaker your signal is, the more power the modem needs to operate and the hotter it will get.
If the port is unable to supply enough current, or if there's a dodgy front USB connector or extension cable that drops the voltage you may have problems in weak signal areas, whereas the same configuration may work fine in an area with a better signal, or by using an antenna to boost the signal thereby reducing the modem's power requirements.
 
@ginggs : thanks for the great work and help!!!

It seems that at least one person is less on EDGE now that he's updated the firmware of the modem

can i just ask what firmware i should get for my E1752, so that i am less on EDGE? There are a lot of links for firmware updates in the forum, which one should i use?

my problems started on Sunday 20 Dec, right in the heat of the valie invasion into cape town,
this is when the EDGE thing started. before i had read @wndrbees (or whoever showed it to him's) great help of reregistering networks, i had to
either reboot 20 times, or
pull the modem out of the usb port, insert it, see if it connects to edge now, sometimes repeat this procedure up to 8 times. success

since last night, after i do the trick, it gets to WCDMA, reverts back to EDGE after a few minutes

hope the firmware updates sorts it out
 
Touch wood, but switching off the WLAN on the router seems to have done the trick! Woot. Though doing that makes the router kinda useless, since I wanted to use it for its wireless capabilities. I'll take it back to Incredible Connection and see what I can sort out. Thanks for the help, ginggs. ;)
 
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