Suarez and Evra Thread.

droidx said:
Yes Suarez was booed, he was probably also a victim in the whole thing. whether you presume innocence on Suarez's part or not, the booing is significantly different.
Like a set of fans booing one player for breaking their players leg and the rivals booing the opposing player because their player got banned, admittedly this example is way to simplified and watered down but merely to illustrate the difference and not compare scenarios.

He admitted to using the word he was accused of, and the panel deemed this word to be a racist term. But everything is still Evra's fault. Evra made a meal of it but Suarez opened the door so to say. Same with the reactions to the game yesterday.

My point is why is it disgraceful for united fans to mock Liverpool based on there own actions? They basically stood up for racism. Booing a player is nothing but booing a player because his made a case and won it is a different story.
So my point was don't call one set of fans disgraceful (it didn't originate from you) and condone another set of fans just because it is the team you support.

Liverpool have brought this image upon themselves with the way they handled the situation. check rival forums across the net. Most of these rivals probably hate united more, but the consensus seems to be in their favour.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions though, so I'm not saying the masses are right. I believe everyone is entitled to their opinions. But the double standards ate appalling.
The songs United fans sang about Hillsborough and Heysel in the last game that was disgusting.
But in my opinion, the mocking of Liverpool with the masks, their actions throughout the case brought this on themselves. That's just my opinion though. And it is genuinely unbiased. I will disagree with fans actions as I did above, but that was a joke, and Liverpool have been a joke in this saga.
They could have done so much different which would have maintained rivals respect for them, that was and maybe should not be their intention but is another story all together.

I have always maintained a great deal of respect for Liverpool, although I like mocking them, but when serious I will have good things to say. My best friend is a Liverpool fan and we agree on lots of things while still having regular banter.

I'm gonna cool of this topic though I'll read your response and leave it at that. To me this whole situation is detracting from the football now and that makes it kinda irritating.

Cheers.
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Oh yeah, and Liverpool fans don't bait the United fans about the Munich air disaster? You are definatly not unbiased and using that to make excuses for Suarez's racism. Common, this is about 2 high profile plays and the bottom line is that Evra was willing to shake his hand and Suarez turned it down. Suarez had an opportunity to draw a line under the whole thing. He blew it and embarrassed Dagliesh and LFC. Evra's rejoicing at the end of the match was over the top and even Sir Alex said as much on TV. Dagliesh's response to Suarez??
 
Luis Suárez issues apology for Patrice Evra handshake snub [article]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/12/luis-suarez-issues-apology-patrice-evra?newsfeed=true

The Liverpool striker Luis Suárez has issued an official apology for refusing to shake hands with Patrice Evra before Saturday's Premier League game with Manchester United.

"I have spoken with [Kenny Dalglish] since the game at Old Trafford and I realise I got things wrong," Suarez told the club's official website. "I've not only let him down, but also the club and what it stands for and I'm sorry. I made a mistake and I regret what happened.

"I should have shaken Patrice Evra's hand before the game and I want to apologise for my actions.

"I would like to put this whole issue behind me and concentrate on playing football."
 
Liverpool 'misled' as Luis Suárez says sorry for Evra handshake snub [article]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/12/luis-suarez-issues-apology-patrice-evra?newsfeed=true

Liverpool have accused Luis Súarez of misleading them over his decision not to shake Patrice Evra's hand on Saturday as the striker issued a public apology for betraying Kenny Dalglish and the club with his appalling behaviour before Liverpool's 2-1 defeat at Old Trafford.

Sir Alex Ferguson branded Súarez "a disgrace" to Liverpool and claimed the Uruguay international should never play for the club again having declined the hand of the man he racially abused at Anfield last October.

Dalglish vigorously defended Súarez to Sky television immediately after the game and attracted further criticism for the club as a consequence. The manager's position, however, has changed dramatically having reviewed what occurred between the players before kick-off and Liverpool officials are incensed by Súarez's actions, with the club's managing director, Ian Ayre, delivering their first condemnation of the striker since the controversy first erupted.

On Sunday afternoon the striker issued an apology via the club's website. It read: "I have spoken with the manager since the game at Old Trafford and I realise I got things wrong.

"I've not only let him down, but also the club and what it stands for and I'm sorry. I made a mistake and I regret what happened. I should have shaken Patrice Evra's hand before the game and I want to apologise for my actions. I would like to put this whole issue behind me and concentrate on playing football."

That has been followed by criticism of Súarez from Liverpool's managing director, who has admitted the striker lied to the club over his intentions to shake Evra's hand.

Ayre said: "We are extremely disappointed Luis Súarez did not shake hands with Patrice Evra before yesterday's game. The player had told us beforehand that he would, but then chose not to do so. He was wrong to mislead us and wrong not to offer his hand to Patrice Evra. He has not only let himself down, but also Kenny Dalglish, his team-mates and the Club. It has been made absolutely clear to Luis Súarez that his behaviour was not acceptable.

"Luis Súarez has now apologised for his actions which was the right thing to do. However, all of us have a duty to behave in a responsible manner and we hope that he now understands what is expected of anyone representing Liverpool Football Club."
 
As I thought....

Liverpool officials are incensed by Súarez's actions, with the club's managing director, Ian Ayre, delivering their first condemnation of the striker since the controversy first erupted.
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It is now obvious Suarez believed his actions have the the support of the club as they've done in the past. Now that they express disappointment he apologises.
 
zippy said:
Oh yeah, and Liverpool fans don't bait the United fans about the Munich air disaster? You are definatly not unbiased and using that to make excuses for Suarez's racism. Common, this is about 2 high profile plays and the bottom line is that Evra was willing to shake his hand and Suarez turned it down. Suarez had an opportunity to draw a line under the whole thing. He blew it and embarrassed Dagliesh and LFC. Evra's rejoicing at the end of the match was over the top and even Sir Alex said as much on TV. Dagliesh's response to Suarez??
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I think you misread my post quite badly there. Perhaps you scanned over it because it was quite long.
 
R13... said:
It is now obvious Suarez believed his actions have the the support of the club as they've done in the past. Now that they express disappointment he apologises.
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Let's hope the issue is put to bed now.
Wonder if they came down on Kenny as well. After the game he was still supporting Suarez, he said he never knew what happened, but I think he did. After the board expressed their disappointment, Kenny spoke up. Too much coincidence.
Anyway let's hope it ends after the media has their field day with this.
 
R13... said:
It is now obvious Suarez believed his actions have the the support of the club as they've done in the past. Now that they express disappointment he apologises.
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How do you figure that "It is now obvious Suarez believed his actions have the the support of the club " ? The club have stated that thought he had agreed before to shake Evra's hand ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17004667

Liverpool managing director Ian Ayre released a statement which read: "We are extremely disappointed Luis Suarez did not shake hands with Patrice Evra before yesterday's game.

"The player had told us beforehand that he would, but then chose not to do so.

"He was wrong to mislead us and wrong not to offer his hand to Patrice Evra. He has not only let himself down but also Kenny Dalglish, his team-mates and the club.

"It has been made absolutely clear to Luis Suarez that his behaviour was not acceptable.
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zippy said:
How do you figure that "It is now obvious Suarez believed his actions have the the support of the club " ? The club have stated that thought he had agreed before to shake Evra's hand ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17004667
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He thought the club would stand by him as they have always done in the past. It shows if the club hadn't leapt to his defence in the beginning this whole ugly saga could have been avoided. Those "free Suarez" t-shirts were stupid.
In fact KK did exactly that post game.
 
mercurial said:
That is/was my feeling as well. They had to save some face.
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Don't forget it's the American owners (Fenway Group) that stepped in... cos the press there is ripping their brand image to shreds...
 
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Reds accept apology

Manchester United thanks Liverpool for the apologies issued following Saturday's game.

Everyone at Old Trafford wants to move on from this. The history of our two great clubs is one of success and rivalry unparalleled in British football.

That should be the focus in the future of all those who love the clubs.


Source
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Well Done United! and I hope we all can move on (hope the Media can let this bone go as well)
 
Unfortunate that an innocent man should be frowned upon by public, just because he refuses to take the hand of a lying bitch.
 
Demon7 said:
Unfortunate that an innocent man should be frowned upon by public, just because he refuses to take the hand of a lying bitch.
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Little bit late to start now,mate. Just let it go. What's done is done.
 
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