SWC stadiums fears mount

alf101 said:
I'n sure it is amazing.
The stadium in Cape Town is also amazing.
If they built 10 more stadiums just like that all over Cape Town, I'd be amazed and say well done.

My issue is not that they are "crap" stadiums, its that we really don't need them. we don't need to waste taxpayers money on them either.

Yes! There are many benefits that trickle down, because new roads etc are being built, but they spend Fall on roads for 20 years - so they kinda needed to do that anyway.

I am really not happy to see my tax money wasted like this.
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QFT!
 
capetownguy said:
Even in the case of Suckcliffe and the Sharks. Durban spent many hours negotiating and trying to plan the venue so that it could be adjusted early on to accommodate them.
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Negotiate what? NRU told them up front that the venue didn't suit their business model, the rest of the negotiation consisted of Sutcliffe threatening to cancel the 99 year lease on Kings park.
 
BobsLawnService said:
I live in Cape Town so her stadium affects me the most. One of the things she lied about was areas that were supposed to be grassed recreational areas ended up getting tarred over. Basically she presented falsified plans to the rates payers societies to get it approved. She can be just as honest as any ANC politician when she wants to get her own way.
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Rubbish!

The World cup is now over and the tender for those fields is now open. You can personally tender to provide the new fields if you want.

Feel free to attend the site meeting.

30Q/2010/11 CORPORATE SERVICES 14 September 2010
Redevelopment of green point sports fields and police stabels

http://web1.capetown.gov.za/web1/newcitytenders/
 
Tassidar said:
Technically, it is Nomaindia's legacy rather than Zille's legacy. Nomaindia approved the stadium just before she left office. In reality, there was little that Zille could do.
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What are you meant to do when government hands you R3.5 billion for the stadium and promises billions more for infrastructure?
 
alloytoo said:
Negotiate what? NRU told them up front that the venue didn't suit their business model, the rest of the negotiation consisted of Sutcliffe threatening to cancel the 99 year lease on Kings park.
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So the tours of the venue, the meetings, the proposals for the upper tier to become entirely suites is all imaginary?
 
BobsLawnService said:
You should have just stopped there. As a member of the mifddle class who will be paying for an empty stadium for the next five years it is the least you can do. Sadly "Zille's Legacy" is going to be a drain on us for many years to come.
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You can go watch the 7 psl fixtures planned for the stadium including the concert and new years event and bafana match and help ensure its not empty.
 
GOOD NEWS:

At least we will have White ellies cause the Rhino's will not be with us for much longer.
 
Rugby MUST move....especially in Durbs - the ABSA stadium is horrid looking.

How they even thought cricket would be able to be played in them is beyond me...
 
WP considers move to Cape Town Stadium
Morné Esben | 49 Minutes Ago




Western Province Rugby on Thursday said it may be moving to the new Cape Town Stadium after all, despite the relocation originally being ruled out by rugby bosses.

The move from Newlands to Green Point was initially rejected due to high rental rates and potential losses of revenue from hospitality suites.

The suites at Newlands outnumber similar facilities at Cape Town Stadium.

Western Province Rugby CEO Theuns Roodtman said they are likely to meet with the City of Cape Town next week.

He said, “There will be a meeting very shortly…Dave Hugo of the city approached us yesterday and was in the meeting with us. We will meet…to discuss the way forward and see where we can take hands and where we can carry forward.”

Roodtman said even if an agreement is reached between Western Province Rugby and the city, it is still not a given that they will move.

"Our decision isn’t one of Theuns Roodtman or Toby Titus taking it. Our decision is…a democratic motion that is put to 90 clubs who own the stadium and two schools, unions and the referees’ society must make that decision.”

(Edited by Lisa Bartlett)
 
I think they should all do their best to move. Will be great if they do. Then they can demolish or re-assign the smaller stadiums for other purposes.
 
capetownguy said:
WP considers move to Cape Town Stadium
Morné Esben | 49 Minutes Ago




Western Province Rugby on Thursday said it may be moving to the new Cape Town Stadium after all, despite the relocation originally being ruled out by rugby bosses.

The move from Newlands to Green Point was initially rejected due to high rental rates and potential losses of revenue from hospitality suites.

The suites at Newlands outnumber similar facilities at Cape Town Stadium.

Western Province Rugby CEO Theuns Roodtman said they are likely to meet with the City of Cape Town next week.

He said, “There will be a meeting very shortly…Dave Hugo of the city approached us yesterday and was in the meeting with us. We will meet…to discuss the way forward and see where we can take hands and where we can carry forward.”

Roodtman said even if an agreement is reached between Western Province Rugby and the city, it is still not a given that they will move.

"Our decision isn’t one of Theuns Roodtman or Toby Titus taking it. Our decision is…a democratic motion that is put to 90 clubs who own the stadium and two schools, unions and the referees’ society must make that decision.”

(Edited by Lisa Bartlett)
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That is good news.

I know at some point the Sharks were asked if they would move to the new stadium and they said they could not afford the charges, they also had to finish the contract with ABSA park. So I guess there is more to it than just move.
 
WP Rugby previously bid for Cape Town stadium but they had too many restrictive conditions which would limit other events at the venue.
 
markface said:
Rugby MUST move....especially in Durbs - the ABSA stadium is horrid looking.
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Nobody watches rugby because of the "pretty stadiums" for crying in a bucket. The legacy of Kings Park and the surrounding Rovers and Crusaders fields should never be taken away. Rugby has no reason to move. To date the only argument arisen is that the stadium is ugly. Personally I love Kings Park in all of its concrete glory, just the way it is. I also love the pre-game festivities associated with Kings Park which would pretty much be history after the move.

Anyone have any decent reasons as to why the rugby and cricket teams should move to the new stadiums? Cricket for one is just not even feasible. I mean who the hell wants to watch a cricket match on a rectangular field (there's a reason it's called an oval) with an Olympic running track between you and the action? It's plain bloody absurd...
 
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capetownguy said:
potential losses of revenue from hospitality suites.
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hospitality suites are the reason why big games offer 4000 tickets to the public in a 45000 seater stadium. the rest is filled with corporate w@nkirs who are so worried about missing out on the free kudu biltong and drinking the free booze that they miss most of the match.
 
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