Sydney hits record 45.8 deg

[Garson007]

There is a difference between weather and climate...

Okay smart-ass. Why must I give a **** about climate change?

 

[JungleBoy]

You have to feel pity for those playing day time games at the Australian Open:wtf:

 

[Type RSA]

That is quite something. Have friends in Perth that reported 50C earlier in the week. Crazy hot over there right now!!

 

[killadoob]

Yup, as predicted. Extreme climate all over the place. Only the mentally sick still deny it. We even have some of those on our forum

Sorry what happened to the global warming you punted, now you punting extreme climate claiming there are some who deny the extreme climate.

You punted higher temps and higher global temps not extreme weather.

You and al gore are a nothing more than a joke dude. Extreme climate change was predicted but the likes of you and al gore made out the human element was the cause and even nasa doubts that as my links have proven.

The extreme climate change has only been in the last year or two to the best of my knowledge and it is accelerating faster than anyone predicted.

You still believe in man made global warming ghoti?

 

[w1z4rd]

Okay smart-ass. Why must I give a **** about climate change?

You are human and care about other people and the future of our species?

Any particular reason you had to go full retard in bitchyness there? I was simply correcting a common mistake people make. I did not realize it would make you so emotionally negative.

 

[w1z4rd]

Sorry what happened to the global warming you punted, now you punting extreme climate claiming there are some who deny the extreme climate.

You punted higher temps and higher global temps not extreme weather.

Lol, Ive always said there was going to be extreme weather. Lol. you are such a liar. Global warming brings on extreme weather. Lol. This has been said since the start.

 

[Ninja'd]

You have to feel pity for those playing day time games at the Australian Open:wtf:

I wonder how many litres they sweat.

 

[killadoob]

That is quite something. Have friends in Perth that reported 50C earlier in the week. Crazy hot over there right now!!

Meanwhile india is experiencing their lowest temps since we started recording

http://news.msn.com/world/indias-coldest-weather-in-decades-killing-the-homeless-aid-group

 

[killadoob]

Lol, Ive always said there was going to be extreme weather. Lol. you are such a liar. Global warming brings on extreme weather. Lol. This has been said since the start.

We all knew that but you said it's because of us. You still believe we are changing the climate ghoti. You don't think that there is anything else like perhaps THE SUN causing the changes. The very thing that gives us heat you rule out as the cause of the earth heating or cooling LOL, that is the laughable aspect.

You call people mentally ill yet you have so much faith that man is causing the extreme climate, even though other planets are heating up.

http://www.sott.net/article/255343-...t-deep-Plows-cannot-reach-roads-to-clear-them

Sounds like russia is really feeling this global warming along with india, japan middle east etc

 

[w1z4rd]

We all knew that but you said it's because of us. You still believe we are changing the climate ghoti. You don't think that there is anything else like perhaps THE SUN causing the changes. The very thing that gives us heat you rule out as the cause of the earth heating or cooling LOL, that is the laughable aspect.

You call people mentally ill yet you have so much faith that man is causing the extreme climate, even though other planets are heating up.

http://www.sott.net/article/255343-...t-deep-Plows-cannot-reach-roads-to-clear-them

Sounds like russia is really feeling this global warming along with india, japan middle east.

Shame man, take your meds, get some sleep.

 

[Garson007]

You are human and care about other people and the future of our species?

Of course I do. Do I believe that we should pay the price because people are stupid enough to build by the river bed? No. Will our species survive climate change? I bet they would.

 

[w1z4rd]

Of course I do. Do I believe that we should pay the price because people are stupid enough to build by the river bed? No. Will our species survive climate change? I bet they would.

Probably. Like you I think people are too stupid to fix this issue (there are too many killadoobs and not enough Neil Tysons in this world)... and by survive I imagine it will be in special habitats that are climate controlled.

So I get you there. I updated my last comment, couldnt understand the aggressiveness from you.

 

[killadoob]

Shame man, take your meds, get some sleep.

naaa my meds make me understand that the sun could perhaps be changing our climate, your meds however make you believe and have faith that the very thing giving us heat cannot be the cause . yet you mention that some people are mentally ill

 

[w1z4rd]

naaa my meds make me understand that the sun could perhaps be changing our climate, your meds however make you believe and have faith that the very thing giving us heat cannot be the cause . yet you mention that some people are mentally ill

Shame man.

PS, the only meds I am on is Champix

 

[Nom Chompsky]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/9797315/A-forecast-the-Met-Office-hoped-you-wouldnt-see.html

It is the graph the Met Office didn’t want you to see, in an episode which, according to one newspaper, represents “a crime against science and the public”.

Inevitably last week it didn’t take long for the bush fires set off by Australia’s “hottest summer ever” to be blamed on runaway global warming. Rather less attention was given to the heavy snow in Jerusalem (worst for 20 years) or the abnormal cold bringing death and destruction to China (worst for 30 years), northern India (coldest for 77 years) and Alaska, with average temperatures down in the past decade by more than a degree. But another story, which did attract coverage across the world, was the latest in a seemingly endless series of embarrassments for the UK Met Office.

Some of this story may be familiar – how on Christmas Eve the Met Office sneaked on to its website a revised version of the graph it had posted a year earlier showing its prediction of global temperatures for the next five years. Not until January 5 did sharp-eyed climate bloggers notice how different this was from the graph it replaced. When the two graphs were posted together on Tallbloke’s Talkshop, this was soon picked up by the Global Warming Policy Foundation which whizzed it around the media.
The Met Office’s allies, such as the BBC’s old warmist warhorses Roger Harrabin and David Shukman, were soon trying to downplay the story, claiming that the forecast had only been revised by "a fifth", and that even if the temperature rise had temporarily stalled, due to “natural factors”, the underlying warming trend would soon reappear. But they were only able to get away with this by omitting to show the contrast between the two graphs.

In 2011, the Met Office’s computer model prediction had shown temperatures over the next five years soaring to a level 0.8 degrees higher than their average between 1971 and 2000, far higher than the previous record year, 1998. Whereas the new graph shows the lack of any significant warming for the past 15 years as likely to continue. Apart from how this was obscured by the BBC, there are several reasons why this is of wider significance for the rest of us.

For a start, it is not generally realised what a central role the Met Office has played in promoting the worldwide scare over global warming. The predictions of its computer models, through its alliance with the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia (centre of the Climategate emails scandal), have been accorded unique prestige by the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, ever since the global-warming-obsessed John Houghton, then head of the Met Office, played a key part in setting up the IPCC in 1988.

A major reason why the Met Office’s forecasts have come such croppers in recent years is that its computer models since 1990 have assumed that by far the most important influence on global temperatures is the rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide. Yet as early as 2008, when temperatures temporarily plummeted by 0.7 degrees, equivalent to their entire net rise in the 20th century, it was already clear that something was fundamentally wrong with this assumption. The models were not taking proper account of all the natural factors governing the climate, such as solar radiation and shifts in the major ocean currents. Even the warmists admitted that it was a freak El Niño event in the Pacific which had made 1998 the hottest year in modern times.

But the Met Office was not going to abandon easily its core belief that the main force shaping climate was that rise in CO2. As its chief scientist, Julia Slingo, admitted to MPs in 2010, its short-term forecasts are based on the same “numerical models” as “we use for our climate prediction work”, and these have been predicting “hotter, drier summers” and “warmer winters” for decades ahead. Hence all those fiascos which have made the Met Office a laughing stock, from the “barbecue summer” that never was in 2008, to the “warmer than average winter” of 2010 which brought us our coldest-ever December, to its prediction last spring that April, May and June 2012 would probably be “drier than average”, just before we enjoyed the wettest April and summer on record.

Such a catastrophic blunder is scarcely mitigated by the Met Office’s sneaky attempt to hide that absurd 2011 graph. One day it will be recognised how the Met Office’s betrayal of proper science played a key part in creating the most expensive scare story the world has ever known, the colossal bill for which we will all be paying for decades to come.

Meanwhile, it is not just here that this latest fiasco, reported in many countries, has been raising eyebrows. Our ministers love to boast that British science commands respect throughout the world, They should note that the sorry record of our Met Office is beginning to do that reputation no good at all.

 

[Nerfherder]

Cold-waves in northern latitudes are one of the effects of global warming...

Thats why the proper name for it is CLIMATE CHANGE.

 

[Grant]

Seemed to me the last 2 winters in cape town were cooler than before just as last summer and this one are not as hot as usual.

 

[FlatspinZA]

Of course I do. Do I believe that we should pay the price because people are stupid enough to build by the river bed? No. Will our species survive climate change? I bet they would.

If you believe National Geographic, NONE of the pre-dinosaur creatures (bigger than dinosaurs) survived the apocalypse (super volcano eruption) that wiped out everything before the dinosaurs. The only survivors were those creatures that were able to able to burrow underground, and from them we all evolved as conditions on earth became more favourable.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/9797315/A-forecast-the-Met-Office-hoped-you-wouldnt-see.html



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That says nothing more than that we're moving out of an ice age.

 

[Garson007]

Probably. Like you I think people are too stupid to fix this issue (there are too many killadoobs and not enough Neil Tysons in this world)... and by survive I imagine it will be in special habitats that are climate controlled.

So I get you there. I updated my last comment, couldnt understand the aggressiveness from you.

I'm never aggressive, although I am quick to sarcasm. :3

I don't think we'd need special habitats, but some places that require climate control right now might not need it any-more and some that don't will. It is an expensive change, but it's something that's completely adaptable within our world economy. The short term consequences will possibly be fatal for some people.

I'm not a conservative in any sense of the word. I believe people, and their devices, have to adapt to the circumstances that present themselves. Fear-mongering solves nothing and neither does trying to change our past.

It's not like climate change is a new thing. A few thousand years ago Egypt used to be pretty green and the Amazon forest wasn't close to what it is now. In time the expansion of the Sahara desert and the erosion of its soil has lead to Amazon having more nutrients than it can handle, which allowed its expansion. I personally think that we are capable of handling what happened over a thousand years more easily today over only a hundred years, maybe even less.

Any green argument, in terms of animal groups, is bull****. Speaking long-term, greenhouse earth is pretty normal for the planet and life actually thrives under it and biodiversity increases (more tropics, less deserts). Even taking it to the extremes and an extinction level event, that's even better for biodiversity.

Talking of greenhouse earth. If some extremes do happen, then Antarctica seems like a pretty nice place. Even when the rest of the world turns tropical, humid and hot, Antartica would probably become nice and temperate and it's a pretty massive landmass.

Should we go for cleaner fuels? Sure, but it has to benefit the economy as well. In that sense hydrocarbons just work. All our research should go into synthesising conventional liquid fuels through the use of solar energy (if you can invent a better liquid fuel even better) - everything else is just a passing fad, impractical and uneconomical. It needs to be a liquid, stupid.

 

[Garson007]

If you believe National Geographic, NONE of the pre-dinosaur creatures (bigger than dinosaurs) survived the apocalypse (super volcano eruption) that wiped out everything before the dinosaurs. The only survivors were those creatures that were able to able to burrow underground, and from them we all evolved as conditions on earth became more favourable.

Equating super-volcano or meteorite level extinction events with anthropic greenhouse gas induced climate change is bizarre at best.